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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:06 AM Aug 2012

"Please, don't say anything bad about Paul Ryan."

Republicans are swimming in adoration for the little munster from Wisconsin. They don't want to hear what he stands for - they just like how he says it. They love the little booger.

The little suck-up was on 60 Minutes last night saying how he was only going to release two years of tax returns to the public, just like Mitt Romney. The only problem is that Mitt Romney has not yet released two years of returns to the public. He has released one year and it was incomplete. Ryan said he thought it was more important to release his returns to Romney than to the public. Say what??

Also, he made a slight gaffe when he started talking about closing the loopholes for the wealthy. Those loopholes have helped to make Mitt a very wealthy man. But why is it that if the "loopholes" are so wrong, they have to be included in a quid pro quo? We cannot close them simply because they are wrong. We have to cut programs for the poor before we can close them. What can of sane, rational person thinks like that?

So, the Republicans want everyone to be nice to little Paul Ryan. Do not discuss his plans to do away with Medicare for those under 55 years of age. Do not discuss his plans to cut the top tax rate to 25% in an already starved, deficit-laden budget. Do not ask who is going to pay for his silly small ideas. That wouldn't be nice or politic.

As a voting Democrat, I want little Paul Ryan's ideas exposed before the election. If the Republicans want to call it demagoguery , then so be it. We will not stand by and let these people destroy everything our people have worked for.

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"Please, don't say anything bad about Paul Ryan." (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2012 OP
Paul Ryan: The guy who can look you in the eye & kill you dead.. 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #1
You will not see it from the media RandiFan1290 Aug 2012 #2
Mass media is for dummies Mosaic Aug 2012 #28
r#5 & k for, yep it's our POLITE DECENT flaw. & BIDEN is already on the NICE track. UTUSN Aug 2012 #3
Small, trivial facts like.... kentuck Aug 2012 #4
We can NOT allow the MSM to frame Ryan as "Bold & Courageous" 66 dmhlt Aug 2012 #5
Just a little Insider Trading. That's not illegal he is a Congress Critter. Downwinder Aug 2012 #6
Paul Ryan the only Washington insider/outsider byoung6 Aug 2012 #7
Ryan better hope that I never get interviewed on the news Pakid Aug 2012 #8
Is it true that Ryan doesn't have a law degree? ancianita Aug 2012 #9
Lots of members of Congress are not lawyers. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #12
True, but they're not running for VP. ancianita Aug 2012 #13
I agree that he is not qualified to run government. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #19
Education is irrelevant in WI at least. Walker was sanctioned at Marquette & is a college drop out. hue Aug 2012 #16
You think the congressman actually writes the bills? jeff47 Aug 2012 #17
Thanks. All information is much appreciated. ancianita Aug 2012 #21
Eddie Munster Better Put On His Man Pants... KharmaTrain Aug 2012 #10
Bwahahaha....Even Bristol Palin is begging people to be nice!!! YellaDog1950 Aug 2012 #11
I think the problem with lost mittens picking ryan is... Javaman Aug 2012 #14
The New Nixon Octafish Aug 2012 #15
It's a Palin Play, albeit a less bat-shit crazy Palin Play ... Ian_rd Aug 2012 #18
Good-looking? Seriously?! Nostradammit Aug 2012 #23
He looks like he forgot to put in his dentures Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #24
Hahaha you noticed that too? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #26
I want this fraud exposed. I bet he didn't eve write his budget. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #20
that's my take on it. He did not craft that POS alone. he's a tool. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #25
Just bring up something in it and watch that Coultereque "deer in the headlights" moment. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #30
"But why is it that if the "loopholes" are so wrong, they have to be included in a quid pro quo?" lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #22
he's never denied that he likes to kill kittens for sexual release datasuspect Aug 2012 #27
DURec! bvar22 Aug 2012 #29
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. Paul Ryan: The guy who can look you in the eye & kill you dead..
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:17 AM
Aug 2012

Without blinking.

Great.

Just what we need as a VP.

No thanks.

RandiFan1290

(6,239 posts)
2. You will not see it from the media
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:22 AM
Aug 2012

They are in LOVE! This is going to be like 2000 all over again. There will be no tough questions for Ryan/Romney.

As soon as Mitt dropped in the polls the media started calling Obama a dirty campaigner.

I just hope Debbie Wasserman-Schultz doesn't think of Paul Ryan as a close friend.


Remember 2000!

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
28. Mass media is for dummies
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 05:18 PM
Aug 2012

Most of informed America is getting their info from the internet. You're still living in 2000!

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
3. r#5 & k for, yep it's our POLITE DECENT flaw. & BIDEN is already on the NICE track.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:23 AM
Aug 2012

Same thing happened in 2000, when the media was all, "Don't be MEAN to Shrub. He's so CUTE. He fumbles words but GORE is such a BULLY."

And then Shrub and CHEENEE got away with their murderous lies in the debates.

And when Ahhhhnuld was running, a few warrior Dems in California were said to be wanting to go all out to fight him with his dirty personal past, and Tweety (because he loves the KENNEDYs?) put his snake eyes straight into the camera (same killer look that he used to EXECUTE Phil DONAHUE) and said, "They'd BETTER NOT!1"


And then BIDEN was the PERFECT GENTLEMAN to Quitter-Grifter in the debates.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
4. Small, trivial facts like....
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:54 AM
Aug 2012

Ryan's plan does not balance our budget but drives us even deeper into debt.

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
5. We can NOT allow the MSM to frame Ryan as "Bold & Courageous"
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:00 AM
Aug 2012

Paul Ryan’s Budget Plan is neither “bold” nor “courageous”!

There is nothing – nothing at all – “bold” or “courageous” about destroying the social safety nets that Medicare and Social Security provide to our nation’s elderly and infirmed.

Those programs – Medicare and Social Security – are NOT “entitlements”. They are Earned Benefits as part of the social contract Americans enter into when they join the workforce.

Do NOT let the mythic “liberal media” get away with trying to frame it any different.

byoung6

(47 posts)
7. Paul Ryan the only Washington insider/outsider
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:25 AM
Aug 2012

Started as a washington staffer, graduated to congressman, rich guy who's wife's family is BIG recipients of lease money from Big oil and Gas! Weeee! Yep, Little Paul, Joe Scarboro says this morning that this VP Pick has restored his faith in his party. In fact he painted himself as Paul Ryan's spiritual father from back in Ryan's staffer days.
Was there a financial Crash or a financial coup de tate?

Pakid

(478 posts)
8. Ryan better hope that I never get interviewed on the news
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:27 AM
Aug 2012

I will be more than happy to point out what a little prick that he is right along with just how stupid his budget ideas are!

ancianita

(36,130 posts)
9. Is it true that Ryan doesn't have a law degree?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:31 AM
Aug 2012

That might explain the dearth of bills he's written in thirteen years. But to be a heartbeat away from the presidency with just a B.A.? In that way he really is a lot like Sarah Palin.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
12. Lots of members of Congress are not lawyers.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:49 AM
Aug 2012

Yet they manage to get bills passed. Far more likely, he has produced bills that the majority thought sucked so badly that they refused to vote for them.

ancianita

(36,130 posts)
13. True, but they're not running for VP.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:08 AM
Aug 2012

I still think that he's not qualified to run government -- even with thirteen years in the House -- or to know how good or bad legislation reads. That is a liability in the Executive Branch. It fits with what Rove wants, which is someone to just sign on the dotted line anything that Congress passes to them. When it comes to being VP, being an "articulate spokesman" is not a cut above any other legislator and only serves donors' dictates.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
19. I agree that he is not qualified to run government.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:58 AM
Aug 2012

I just don't believe that being a lawyer is necessary to know anything about what is good or bad legislation. Jimmy Carter wasn't a lawyer, either. Nor, were Harry Truman or Dwight Eisenhower. They did just fine without a law degree.

hue

(4,949 posts)
16. Education is irrelevant in WI at least. Walker was sanctioned at Marquette & is a college drop out.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:25 AM
Aug 2012

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. You think the congressman actually writes the bills?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:48 AM
Aug 2012

How quaint.

Regardless of a congressperson's education, lawyers on staff write the bills. Or they're cut-n-pasted from outside groups where staff lawyers write the bills.

ancianita

(36,130 posts)
21. Thanks. All information is much appreciated.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:06 AM
Aug 2012

I still think that to be able to oversee lawyers on staff is the cut-above standard over other legislators that a candidate for VP or Prez should meet, quaint or not. You speak of realities that show a lack of standards and a waste of taxpayer money for Congresspeople who are so intent on keeping their jobs -- through schmoozing, insider trading and behind closed door deals -- so much that they really don't do the jobs they were elected by The People to do. Writing their own or co-sponsored bills is part of that job. A day's work doing The People's business for a day's pay.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
10. Eddie Munster Better Put On His Man Pants...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:41 AM
Aug 2012

Ryan is an automoton...programmed with talking points that he knows inside and out but little of the substance beyond those slogans. His "budget" came right out of the orgasm room of the Heritage Institute or AEI...they just needed a pretty boy to sweet talk the great unhinged into giving up their safety nets and let the rich get even richer. When questioned about specifics, Woflgang gets very defensive and should be a delight to see Vice President Biden turn him inside out.

Just like it's been with Willard, I expect Team Obama to get out and expose Ryan for being the empty suit he is and being a water carrier for the 1%. He really brings little to the party...he's not going to swing Wisconsin and he could hurt Rmoney's chances in Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Virginia.

Of course we'll hear the usual right wing whining and poutrage at any attack on their golden boy...it's what fuels their hatred and keeps the unhinged in line.

Cheers...

YellaDog1950

(44 posts)
11. Bwahahaha....Even Bristol Palin is begging people to be nice!!!
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:44 AM
Aug 2012

From her blog:

"With all the excitement surrounding Mitt Romney’s announcement of his running mate, I ask you, readers, to pause.

Just stop.

Don’t write a word, don’t make a snap judgment, don’t critique the VP choice, don’t exult in its brilliance. Just take a moment and realize that whomever is chosen, he is a person about to go through an ordeal that few people will ever experience. Pray for his family. Pray that he can meet the challenges of the campaign trail without being burned by the spotlight.

I saw it first hand four years ago, of course. (Can you believe that it’s been that long?)

Our country’s future is at stake, and the other side will do all it can to not just defeat this person but also to destroy his reputation. The next 90 days will be among the most challenging of his life.

I’m going to pray for Paul Ryan. Please join me."



Yeah, Bristol, kind of like the right wing nuts have prayed for the President.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/14/praying-for-obamas-death.html


Javaman

(62,532 posts)
14. I think the problem with lost mittens picking ryan is...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:15 AM
Aug 2012

ryan isn't smart enough to understand that it's not he who is not running for prez.

It didn't help things when lost mittens introduced him as the "next president".

that campaign is such a train wreck.

Ian_rd

(2,124 posts)
18. It's a Palin Play, albeit a less bat-shit crazy Palin Play ...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:56 AM
Aug 2012

Romney picked a good-looking, charismatic right-wing ideologue to fire up the base and give his campaign some excitement. Replace Romney in that sentence with McCain and we're back in 2008.

And like Palin, Ryan only really works for Romney until the electorate actually starts looking at Ryan and what he believes. And then the Romney Campaign will have the same problem the McCain Campaign did after the VP honeymoon is over: trying to hide and manage Ryan so he doesn't talk too much. And again like with McCain and Palin, the bat-shitters will come to love Ryan a lot more than they love Romney, creating a chaotic and incoherent message, even if Ryan isn't a media whore like Palin.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. I want this fraud exposed. I bet he didn't eve write his budget.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:05 AM
Aug 2012

I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's actually the product of a Right Wing "Think" Tank.

It's got Cato and American Enterprise Institute's smell all over it.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
22. "But why is it that if the "loopholes" are so wrong, they have to be included in a quid pro quo?"
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:28 AM
Aug 2012

Excellent question!

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