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glowing

(12,233 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:32 AM Aug 2012

Ooooh, another tidly of gossip from my "security guys" working a VA delegate party.

Most of the delegates in VA want to nominate Ron Paul and not Mittens... So, funny. No one pays attention to the "help".. I have cops doing security at various places.. they just drop all this kind of info on me when they come in from working all night (14 hr shifts).

They are staying at my hotel.. and are protecting various delegates, dignitaries, and party events... so it's an interesting week.

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Lasher

(27,637 posts)
1. Romney cheated Paul out of some delegates he won.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:42 AM
Aug 2012

Paul won a majority of delegates in five states, which means he gets to speak at the convention and he is included on the ballot there. But Romney got some of Paul's delegates replaced on technicalities, cheating Paul out of these rights. Not surprisingly, this has stirred up bitterness against Romney.

Thanks for this scoop from your spies.

Lasher

(27,637 posts)
5. I believe the RNC replaced half of Maine's delegates with Romney supporters.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:31 PM
Aug 2012

Romney just needs to disenfranchise half of the delegates so that Paul can no lonnger a majority of delegates in that state. Maine's Republican Governor is boycotting the convention in protest.

The RNC has used questionable tactics to unseat Paul delegates in Nevada, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Oregon and Oklahoma. The real storm might be brewing inside the convention hall.

alfredo

(60,075 posts)
12. I hope it lives down to our expectations.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:58 PM
Aug 2012

Back when I smoked, I liked an occasional Marsh-Wheeling stogie.

Lasher

(27,637 posts)
13. I smoked a few back in the day.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 04:06 AM
Aug 2012

The Wheeling plant was closed 10 years ago and moved to Indiana. I wonder if they're called Marsh Frankforts now.

alfredo

(60,075 posts)
14. They kept the mosquitoes away on those early morning fishing trips. They were better as
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:43 PM
Aug 2012

out door smokes. Indoors they peeled paint and loosened caulking on the windows.

I haven't smoked tobacco since 73.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
3. They don't even realize they are "spying"; its just "shop talk" to them. I find it juicy.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:58 AM
Aug 2012

And our hotel has "worker bees", so no high and mighty idiots to have to listen to... LOL.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
4. be careful what you post on DU
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:19 PM
Aug 2012

We have watchers who make trouble for DU-ers in real life every chance they can.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
8. I don't have particular names of delegates or mentioned names of security.. even the branch.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 01:32 PM
Aug 2012

I'm being more than generic with the gossip. I find it more amusing than anything.

And its not as if we haven't heard of the Paulite delegates anyways.. Just interesting that on the eve of the convention start, they are still not all that unified and don't have a lot of love for Mittens.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
6. Reminds me of the times at my college-age job delivering pizzas...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:37 PM
Aug 2012

...to the College Republicans.

At the time they were strategizing on ways to protest a Jesse Jackson visit ("How about signs saying 'Welcome to Hymietown!'?" Didn't even occur to them that the lowly pizza dude might overhear, not approve, and go to the trouble of slipping this information to the people sponsoring the event Jackson would speak at.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. The tensions between the libertarians and the traditionists go back to the 1960s
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:58 PM
Aug 2012

And neither side has forgotten it, though they don't air their dirty linen in public very often.

The flashpoint came in 1969, when the libertarians staged a walkout from a Young Americans for Freedom conference because they were being attacked as being, basically, long-haired, dope-smoking hippies. But the roots of the conflict go even deeper than that.

This article from last year is by a traditionalist dredging up all the old animosities and demanding that the Ron Paul people be drummed out of the conservative movement:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/conservatives_and_libertarians_1.html

February 16, 2011

The consummately rambunctious Young Americans for Freedom, sticking with tradition, have caused another stir at the Conservative Political Action Conference this year. They have seen fit to boot the libertarian-Republican from Texas, Congressman Ron Paul, from their board of advisors.

In removing the controversial Paul, YAF has not just knocked a hornets' nest out of a tree -- YAF has peeled away the weak adhesive that has held two less-than-cordial factions within the Right together for several decades. They have expanded the field of battle in America's war of ideas, and it is about time. . . .

It is not an easy thing to ask that an entire faction of a political movement be driven into the sunlight and exposed as being antithetical and hence requiring ostracism -- but it must be done. Libertarians, though seemingly at home on the Right, may better be categorized as being of the Left.

Conservatives should applaud Young Americans for Freedom and ask our libertarian colleagues just where their convictions really stand. YAF and others who stand up to the bullying and high screeches of the libertarians who have invaded the conservative movement will experience the meaning of condemnant quod non intellegunt. Take heart, though, in the fact that in time many of the young people who have drifted into the libertarian camp and the alliances it has formed with the Left will return to truth, and the Right can move on from this moment of inevitable schism.

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