I Just Heard Ryan Talk About His Playlist - Starting With AC/DC & Ending With Zeppelin.....

[global1]

Not the type of music I listen to myself - but - those of you that do listen to that type of music - doesn't it fly in the face of Conservative Repug beliefs? Just askin?

[cbdo2007]

1. "For those about to rock, we salute you!" - don't see the political message there

Am I missing something?

[pokerfan]

49. Republican Fanboys and the Bands that Hate Them

Paul Ryan's love of Rage Against the Machine is amusing, because he is the embodiment of the machine that our music has been raging against for two decades. Charles Manson loved the Beatles but didn't understand them. Governor Chris Christie loves Bruce Springsteen but doesn't understand him. And Paul Ryan is clueless about his favorite band, Rage Against the Machine.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-20120816#ixzz25371m1F2

Dee Snider of Twisted Sister is just the latest musician to hit back at a Republican politician for playing his music. Take a look back at other bands that have taken offence when conservatives use their songs -- or even admit to enjoying their music.

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Musicians+Republicans/7131132/story.html

[discopants]

2. makes the kids think he's 'cool'

In adult language, he's pandering.

[Tom Ripley]

3. It's another "Hey, I'm a white man" dog whistle

[alliswellinmyworld]

14. So if he listened to (c)rap

he'd have street cred?

I just thank Xenu every day of my life that I was able to have grown up with classic rock in the '70s until 1985, when music officially jumped the shark. The only thing better would have been to have be a teen in the late '60s.

[Tom Ripley]

22. I imagine that you really love the bridge in all those classic rock songs

home sweet home

[alliswellinmyworld]

26. Bridge? As in TROLL?!!!

[newspeak]

33. yeah, hubby is a led zeppelin fan

when disco was the thing, hubby became very depressed. I took my son and his HS friends to see robert plant and stone temple pilot at the sacramento fairgrounds (in our '71 VW van)-it should have been hubby taking them, but he was out of town. has ryan really listened to some of the lyrics in the led zeppelin songs? I really can't believe he's a zeppelin fan; however, the repugs were using "the bosses" song "born in the USA" without paying attention to the lyrics.

[Populist_Prole]

58. Bingo Mr Ripley. The most astute observation I've seen so far IMO.

I'm a hard rock fan but one does have to wonder why that info was given. Answer, it's an easy way to dog whistle.

[Oilwellian]

4. Zeppelin?

Any true fan of LED Zeppelin would not refer to them as just Zeppelin. So Paul, that's just A-L you freaking shit stain.

[1StrongBlackMan]

5. More concerning is ...

who does that ... what kind of mind organizes their playlist in alphabetic order?

Not slamming those with OCD; but that smacks of OCD!

[yardwork]

7. It smacks of having a speechwriter make it up, imo.

[Archae]

39. Maybe he downloaded the list off his mp3 player.

Mine does that, puts everything in alphabetical order.

[Quantess]

6. Rage Against The Machine

is his favorite band!

[HughBeaumont]

8. Which is weird because RATM are the polar opposites of the TeaHad.

[Quantess]

11. Killing In The Name Of

"you like to do what they told ya"

Maybe Paul Ryan missed the irony and thinks the lyrics are speaking to him...sincerely.

[Lucy Goosey]

12. Yup - RATM had a little something to say to Ryan, actually...

Tom Morello: 'Paul Ryan Is the Embodiment of the Machine Our Music Rages Against'

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-20120816#ixzz252l7kXdd

Paul Ryan's love of Rage Against the Machine is amusing, because he is the embodiment of the machine that our music has been raging against for two decades. Charles Manson loved the Beatles but didn't understand them. Governor Chris Christie loves Bruce Springsteen but doesn't understand him. And Paul Ryan is clueless about his favorite band, Rage Against the Machine.

Ryan claims that he likes Rage's sound, but not the lyrics. Well, I don't care for Paul Ryan's sound or his lyrics. He can like whatever bands he wants, but his guiding vision of shifting revenue more radically to the one percent is antithetical to the message of Rage.

I wonder what Ryan's favorite Rage song is? Is it the one where we condemn the genocide of Native Americans? The one lambasting American imperialism? Our cover of "Fuck the Police"? Or is it the one where we call on the people to seize the means of production? So many excellent choices to jam out to at Young Republican meetings!

Don't mistake me, I clearly see that Ryan has a whole lotta "rage" in him: A rage against women, a rage against immigrants, a rage against workers, a rage against gays, a rage against the poor, a rage against the environment. Basically the only thing he's not raging against is the privileged elite he's groveling in front of for campaign contributions.

There's more at the link; it's a good read.

[newspeak]

35. gee, I thought you were joking about him liking rage against the machine

ryan is everything that rage against the machine is against. apparently, ryan does not get it, or doesn't want to get it. Totally out of touch.

[Amonester]

40. He likes to sing "La-la-la, I can't hear ya" with his headphones on

and the voice(s) tracks filtered out.

[joeglow3]

36. In many cases, musicians think too highly of themselves

In many cases, people just like the sound of the music and don't pontificate on what this great artist really wanted to communicate.

My son loves the song "I Want Candy." I don't tell him the song is about fucking. He just likes the sound of it.

[XemaSab]

56. There's a huge difference between a kid not getting that candy = fucking

and an adult missing the part that goes "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me," or the part that goes "There were always renegades like Chief Sitting Bull, Tom Paine, Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcolm X," or the part that goes "I'm rolling down Rodeo with a shotgun, these people ain't seen a brown-skinned man since their grandparents bought one," or the part that goes "They rally 'round the family with a pocket full of shells," or the part that goes.... Do I really need to continue here?

[Enrique]

9. ClearChannel, inc's "Classic Rock" format

a lot of it is good music, imo, but the packaging is very corporate so I don't see any contradiction.

[Erose999]

37. In Atlanta at least its Freebird, Stairway, You Shook Me, rinse, repeat. Same 5 or 6 songs in

constant rotation all day. Clear Channel and the other conglomerates have fucking ruined radio.

[Avis]

10. Why is Romney too old for Led Zepplin?

This is actually goes back to Romney's generation?

[LibraLiz1973]

19. His robotic brain cannot process lyrics

Or guitar riffs, drum solos or tasty bass licks.

As Ryan said, Mitt listens to elevator music. Cause he's dynamic like that.

[pokerfan]

52. He's snot

This is just typical bullshit where they're trying to market to widest possible demographic.

[loyalsister]

64. That's who he's talking to

I get the most disgusting RW crap I get from people I went to HS with.

[alliswellinmyworld]

13. Um...it's called being in one's 40s...

I pity those who use words like "conservative" and "repug" and pat themselves on the back thinking they're all tolerant...

[Floyd_Gondolli]

16. Ahh the old liberals are intolerant line

Where have I heard that before.......

[alliswellinmyworld]

18. No, every liberal is tolerant.

Why, look at DU's rules...

[Floyd_Gondolli]

23. Enjoy your stay

Seems like it could be very brief.

[Quantess]

29. What do you like most about Glenn Beck?

I could never figure out his appeal.

[MadHound]

20. Pretty damn narrow playlist, even if one is in one's forties.

AC/DC is OK, I like Led Zeppelin alright, but damn, I'm in my fifties and my playlist has a lot more variety and, umm, color. Marley, Vieux Diop, Tulear Never Sleeps, Motown, funk, punk, classical, country, jazz, New Wave, rockabilly, rock 'n roll, and so much more.

Seriously, seems like a pretty playlist, where's the fun, where's the variety. If that were my playlist, I'd die of boredom.

[alliswellinmyworld]

27. Vieux Diop and Tulear Never sleeps?

UGH. That is just the pretentious claptrap with oh-so tragically hip bands no one has heard of...

[MadHound]

30. Well, that goes to show just how little you know musically,

Vieux Diop isn't a band, he is an individual, and one of the most celebrated kora players around, along with being an excellent ambassador for West African Music.

Tulear Never Sleeps is a compilation album of artists playing Tsapiky, a Madagasgar style of music played by muscians renowed throughout Africa.

Perhaps you need to brush up on exactly what you're talking about. Oh, and expand your own musical horizons.

[dogknob]

54. I'll see your "pretentious claptrap" and "tragically hip" and raise you...

Afro-Celt Sound System playing a to a huge crowd because "no one has heard of..." them. Badass kora player in this band as well.

I will admit that the MSM pollutes the interwebs with so much garbage that it seems like a futile task to find good new music, but kicking back and dismissing people who make such an effort as "hipsters" is just lazy.

[loyalsister]

42. It was a dumb joke

AC\DC - Zeppelin

For an added bit of cheese.... he's on the highway to hell but thinks he's on a stairway to heaven.

I hope this election humiliates him enough to feel like he's taken a downturn.

[Oilwellian]

63. Hahaha

Love that.

[Quantess]

24. Who says I have to be tolerant of people who are not tolerant of me?

Haha. Those days are gone, when liberals acted like doormats. We have taken enough shit from holier-than-thou RWers.

Go shove it! Put on a Ted Nugent record for me. Hey did you know that chickenhawk crapped in his own pants for a week straight and did not change his clothes, just so he could get disqualified for military service in VietNam?

Welcome to DU, for your short visit.

[OriginalGeek]

15. If it keeps on raining, the levee's gonna break

and when the levee breaks, we have no place to stay...


Make no mistake, R&R will rain on every one of us non-1%ers until we have no place to stay.

[LibraLiz1973]

17. I laughed when he said it because

His speech writer took a chance that most of the blowhards in that audience wouldn't realize
that his playlist couldn't end at Zeppelin since they'd be back in the L's.
Fucking moron.

[loyalsister]

46. He took chance on speaking to people who might custom alphabetize their music on their IPOD

It's something I do to organize it in a way that makes it easier to get to what I want. Unfortunately it probably worked with some 30\40 somethings.

[XemaSab]

59. LED Zeppelin

Does not start with a z.

[loyalsister]

61. A lot of people shorten it to Zeppelin, dude

He is talking to people I grew up with.
I have organized my IPOD using without "The" to make The Beatles, The Ramones, etc.. more accessible. I think it's a pretty common practice to separate them out that way.

[dogknob]

62. He could have said ZZ Top; at least they are American and start with a Z.

[pnwest]

21. AC/DC to Zeppelin? What, he cain't listen to no 'merikin bayands?

[Lizzie Poppet]

28. I'd have expected him to listen to BOTH kinds of music...

Country and Western.

But I guess the dadrock's not a real surprise, either...

[Jennicut]

31. "Dadrock!"

I know lots of guys like Ryan, similar age. And that is all they listen to. Add in Bad Company, Foreigner, Van Halen.

[TwilightGardener]

43. +1000 for "Dadrock"-I've never heard that before, gonna have to use it.

[reformist2]

32. Give him a pass on this - attacking every single thing he says makes *us* look crazy.

[loyalsister]

47. It's not worth an attack

It was just a dumb line intended to reach out to gen xers. Plenty of them will respond.

[TwilightGardener]

55. It's not an attack. One should question what the purposes are for his handlers' releasing this

sort of info within days of his selection as VP (that's when I first heard about his favorite bands and his workout routine). It's never wrong to recognize how they're manipulating us and carefully crafting this asshole's image----never hurts to look at what he's trying to accomplish and who he's trying to target. That's how politics is done.

[Aviation Pro]

34. It's geezer rock....

....played over and over again on classic stations. Not that I'm against AC/DC or Zeppelin (I'm a huge fan), but it was meant to bridge the gap between Eddie the Fucking Rapist Enabler's^TM generation and the white pasty-faced baby boomer set.

Now had he mentioned U2, The Decemberists, or Spoon I would have guffawed as the cameras panned over to some very quizzical looks.

[TwilightGardener]

44. Yeah, I think you've got it.

[hack89]

38. In the Navy I knew many conservatives who listen to that kind of music.

the christian conservatives not as much but there are still many fiscal conservatives that do.

[Initech]

41. The funny thing is most of those artists are liberals.

I'm 32 and me and most of my friends listen to a lot of "classic rock" - Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Queen, The Doors, and so on. I'm a big fan of psychedelic / progressive music but I definitely appreciate the classics.

The best part was when Tom Morello wrote that op ed in Rolling Stone and said that Paul Ryan was the very definition of the machine that they rage against.

[librechik]

45. Sure, Old Timey music from 30 years ago. What else do Repubs listen to?

heh, who can understand the words? It's all about surface and style.

BTW, those bands are really about power, rape and pillage, (to a certain extent) and being free to be "The Champions" So it is like the Repubs imagine themselves.

I suppose he sings along to "Your Time is Gonna Come"

[TwilightGardener]

48. Music that's been around long enough that it's lost its edge, its teeth, its context--

decades of relentless mainstream radio play will do that. He's not offending anyone, not surprising anyone either. Which is the point.

[hughee99]

50. When someone critiques someone else's music choices, they almost always come off sounding

like a douchebag to one degree or another.

I realize your post was on a different subject (the lyrics of some of these band's songs vs. conservative repuke "values&quot , but listening to the "all music before/after (pick a year) sucks" and the always condescending you "just don't know enough about x to appreciate it" is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

[kctim]

51. Your first mistake

is in thinking ALL Conservatives and Republicans think and believe the same.

Second mistake is in thinking all people base their lives on petty politics. Most sane people don't even think about politics when they go about their daily lives, that is why they aren't miserable.

Good music is good music. Good food is good food. Good people are good people.

The dude is in his forties, so am I. Those bands were popular while we were growing up and most people like to listen to what they grew up with.

Man, you guys sure stoop to some petty ass personal levels about people you don't even know.

[progressivebydesign]

53. He's an aging frat boy atheist Ayn Rand devotee, that pretends to be Catholic.

He's shallow and vain, and cares more about his abs, than about conservatism. He, like Romney, exist in politics solely to be King.

He likes that music because he wants to remind us how HARD he works.. on his fucking ABS. lol

[flamingdem]

57. :accurate: nt

[Iggo]

60. It's party music.

I listen to it myself when it pops up in shuffle mode. But I can't remember the last time I racked up a Zep or AC/DC album and listened to the whole thing. Those days are over.

What he's really doing is going for the frat boy vote. Frat boys don't care what the song's about. (Just watch 'em go apeshit over "Born In The USA" or "American Woman" and you'll see what I mean...lol.)

[loyalsister]

66. Exactly

Also some with fond (probably often disgusting) memories of those days.

[SomethingFishy]

65. Ahh yes, the anti-abortion, anti-contraception, anti-anything fun

candidate loves him some Rage and some AC/DC.

Tom Morello wanted to know which anti-establishment Rage songs Ryan liked...

I wonder which AC/DC songs the Conservative Christian Family Values candidate likes?

You Shook Me All Night Long?
Sin City?
Highway To Hell?
Hard As A Rock?
The Jack?
Whole Lotta Rosie?
Night Prowler?
Can I sit Next To You Girl?
Or maybe BIG BALLS!

Fuckin turd. Go listen to Stryper or U2.

[Erose999]

67. "Classic Rock" is the Bud Light of music. Lowest common denominator. For a person to say "I like

AC/DC" really says nothing about themselves or their character. I mean both the NAACP and... Westboro probably have AC/DC and Led Zeppelin on their respective playlists.

It really seems like they're trying to cast Ryan as the "all american go-getter win-one-for-the Gipper" type. I've heard nothing about him thats in any way compelling, at all. He's perhaps even more flavorless and textureless than Romney, if thats even possible.