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"And his daughter knows she killed her Dad." (Original Post) kpete Dec 2020 OP
My neighbor got it on a girls beach weekend, then infected her husband & twin sons. CottonBear Dec 2020 #1
It only happens to other people . . . RVN VET71 Dec 2020 #2
+1000 Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #21
A Twilight Zone episode DBoon Dec 2020 #43
Which is why I will not see my family this holiday season genxlib Dec 2020 #3
Yep, spending Christmas alone Rorey Dec 2020 #4
Same here. I'd rather spend the day alone than risk anyone getting sick. Arkansas Granny Dec 2020 #9
Same ananda Dec 2020 #12
Agree! Christmas alone for one year isn't going to kill me. lkinwi Dec 2020 #23
Yep. Better safe than dead, deadly, or permanently damaged. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #46
Maybe we can have a really special Independence Day next year csziggy Dec 2020 #27
That's what I'm hoping for Rorey Dec 2020 #29
Since they are saying some won't be able to get a vaccination for six months or more csziggy Dec 2020 #62
Yes! My official New Year's Resolution! ananda Dec 2020 #59
My family is doing no contact gift swaps this year. We'll be making front porch deliveries Arkansas Granny Dec 2020 #7
It's that post office thing Rorey Dec 2020 #14
I thought about sending cash to grandchildren, but I figured the kids Arkansas Granny Dec 2020 #16
That sounds very nice. Rorey Dec 2020 #19
I'm sending pre-paid Visa cards wo my great niece and nephews csziggy Dec 2020 #30
That's a good idea. Arkansas Granny Dec 2020 #32
My closest family homegirl Dec 2020 #54
Me too. Lonestarblue Dec 2020 #11
Hugs Rorey Dec 2020 #15
same here. Just the two of us and the 5 cats yellowdogintexas Dec 2020 #37
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2020 #42
Its hard to feel sorry for people like that. blueinredohio Dec 2020 #5
Boy, that's gotta be tough to live with. Joinfortmill Dec 2020 #6
There are other such stories at the link, too. tblue37 Dec 2020 #34
not for some people, like trump. and then there are a few hundred radio blowhards that certainot Dec 2020 #40
Great post, thanks. Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2020 #8
I have a friend who is a widow. This is her third Christmas since her husband died. TNNurse Dec 2020 #10
My heart goes out to her Rorey Dec 2020 #22
I told her she was doing the right thing TNNurse Dec 2020 #25
Aura hugs Rorey Dec 2020 #26
I was given "virtual hugs" from a couple of kids this summer. TNNurse Dec 2020 #33
I've been calling it "air hugs." nt soldierant Dec 2020 #44
Whoa! Maybe we didn't make them up! Rorey Dec 2020 #28
"These are the stories that need to be told" n/t handmade34 Dec 2020 #13
Really sad and infuriating. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2020 #17
I agree, Blanche. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #60
I don't have any family so I haven't had to worry this year. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2020 #61
travel ban in ca . yet our stoopid r county mounty cant(read wont ) inforce mask or travel. AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #47
I have no more tears to cry. My heart has turned into stone. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #20
Also from that website. People going to Disney - Liberal In Texas Dec 2020 #24
My in laws live two houses away... EarthFirst Dec 2020 #31
Kick dalton99a Dec 2020 #35
She's probably still going to bars. Too many people suck. nt live love laugh Dec 2020 #36
Some way or another, many of these COVID Killers will blame Democrats for the deaths. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #48
I always blame RW media, thinking of Fox, Lush Slimeball, etc. But, you're right. Those damn Ruskies Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #51
Such a shame, as computerism had such great positive potential. That's the problem with sharing Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #52
my husband gets so angry at the folks who let their nose and/or mouth yellowdogintexas Dec 2020 #39
My cousin is in the hospital right now, because he visited his son during Thanksgiving. Dem2theMax Dec 2020 #41
Clones of the daughter infect my entire county. Hence, hermit. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #45
All of us oldies should change our wills to disinherit any relatives who foolishly take chances Liberty Belle Dec 2020 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #53
I suspect you are right about some killing off parents for the inheritance. Liberty Belle Dec 2020 #57
My neighbor had relatives over for thanksgiving after she tested positive. AllyCat Dec 2020 #55
Kick....n/t Upthevibe Dec 2020 #56
A high school classmate was posting video of herself driving from TEXAS to Missouri for Thanksgiving 2Legit Dec 2020 #58
The only greater personal loss... tonedevil Dec 2020 #63

CottonBear

(21,602 posts)
1. My neighbor got it on a girls beach weekend, then infected her husband & twin sons.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:46 AM
Dec 2020

These are people with college educations. She said “we all isolated for two weeks, then got tested” before driving to the coast for a 12 person beach holiday in a rental home.

We stay away from the people in our neighborhood because only our household and one or two others wear masks while outside the home in the neighborhood.

DBoon

(22,520 posts)
43. A Twilight Zone episode
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 04:55 PM
Dec 2020


You push the button, you get lots of money and someone you don't know and never met dies.

Who gets the box after you? Someone you don't know and never met

genxlib

(5,557 posts)
3. Which is why I will not see my family this holiday season
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:55 AM
Dec 2020

First time in over 30 years that we haven’t visited for at least thanksgiving or Xmas if not both.

We have been safe but there are no guarantees. I couldn’t live with myself if I brought harm to them.

Rorey

(8,455 posts)
4. Yep, spending Christmas alone
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:01 AM
Dec 2020

I'm actually doing it more so my family won't have to feel guilt about me possibly getting it. Some of the family members have to go to work, so there's definitely an added risk.

Hopefully we'll have a gathering next spring or summer. This is just the way it is for now.

lkinwi

(1,477 posts)
23. Agree! Christmas alone for one year isn't going to kill me.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:06 AM
Dec 2020

Traveling to visit family very well could.

csziggy

(34,147 posts)
27. Maybe we can have a really special Independence Day next year
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:36 AM
Dec 2020

I don't know if the vaccination program can be efficient enough to make gathering safe by then or the Covid-19 cases will have decreased by then but that would be a nice date to make a target for people to get together.

Rorey

(8,455 posts)
29. That's what I'm hoping for
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:39 AM
Dec 2020

Actually, I'm hoping for Easter, but I know that's not very realistic.

csziggy

(34,147 posts)
62. Since they are saying some won't be able to get a vaccination for six months or more
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 11:19 AM
Dec 2020

Independence Day might be too soon. But we can hope!

Arkansas Granny

(31,577 posts)
7. My family is doing no contact gift swaps this year. We'll be making front porch deliveries
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:12 AM
Dec 2020

and shouting greetings from the street. No one wants to give or receive COVID19.

For those who live out of town, I'm filling up USPS flat rate boxes.

Rorey

(8,455 posts)
14. It's that post office thing
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:35 AM
Dec 2020

I'm giving cash to my grandchildren. Only two are out of town, and I actually mailed cash to one a couple of days ago, so I hope it gets there. I could have written a check, but I wasn't sure if my son would cash it. I'll send the other out-of-town grandchild money through his paypal account, and then I'll just make a no-contact drop-off with the four grandkids who live in my town.

Arkansas Granny

(31,577 posts)
16. I thought about sending cash to grandchildren, but I figured the kids
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:50 AM
Dec 2020

would want to go to the store and spend it.

Instead I'm sending family gifts for all since they are at home together most of the time. I'm making several "in-a-jar" cookie mixes, hot drink mixes, soups etc. and other things that they can enjoy as a family. Put all of it in a nice tote or basket, wrap it in red cellophane and a big bow and there you go.

Rorey

(8,455 posts)
19. That sounds very nice.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 10:41 AM
Dec 2020

To me, what you're doing sounds very "Christmasy".

The granddaughter I sent cash to is only two, and her mom told me what she wanted to get her with the money, so that works for me.

I'm pretty sure that my other son and his wife will just put the money for their two little guys into their savings accounts, which also works for me. As for the three older grandsons, they're all old enough to make their own decisions, wise or unwise.

My kids and I don't exchange gifts anymore. It just reached a point of being ridiculous to try to come up with ideas for them, and them for me. I told them years ago that I really honestly and truly don't want anything. I'm basically a minimalist and I don't like to dust. The exception is family portraits. I'll gladly accept those any time, but I don't think anyone is risking that kind of contact this year. Anyway, I hope they aren't.

Our gift to each other was what we put in the Saran ball and the family dinner, and those things aren't happening this year. Hopefully we'll be able to do some nice gatherings this summer.

Honestly, I'm really going to be content making myself a few special treats and watching a movie or two. I'm sure there will be the usual phone calls and video chats.

csziggy

(34,147 posts)
30. I'm sending pre-paid Visa cards wo my great niece and nephews
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:40 AM
Dec 2020

That way their parents can help them use them for online purchases - or save them for when things settle down and they can visit stores in person.

homegirl

(1,453 posts)
54. My closest family
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 10:17 PM
Dec 2020

members have admitted we have everything. So, we are sending a sizeable check to our local Food Bank. There are so many who have so little in these trying times.

Lonestarblue

(10,497 posts)
11. Me too.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:29 AM
Dec 2020

I will miss seeing them, but it just isn’t safe. Next year, I can give them all twice the regular number of hugs.

Rorey

(8,455 posts)
15. Hugs
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:37 AM
Dec 2020

Yeah, I told my daughter-in-law that when I finally get to hold my almost four-month-old grandson I'm not going to let go of him for months. I haven't held him at all yet.

It's going to be so nice to get hugs again.

yellowdogintexas

(22,368 posts)
37. same here. Just the two of us and the 5 cats
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 04:02 PM
Dec 2020

He has 3 siblings, six nieces and nephews + their kids and they have not been observing strict protocol as far as he knows. Possible exception is his brother who is a police officer and his wife, who is also on the force.

We are not taking any chances.

The one brother he is certain will do all the right things lives in Tennessee~

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
5. Its hard to feel sorry for people like that.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:04 AM
Dec 2020

If I had kids going to bars I would tell them its me or the bar. If you have to go to the bar you have to find someplace else to live until this pandemic is under control.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. not for some people, like trump. and then there are a few hundred radio blowhards that
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 04:18 PM
Dec 2020

repeated ""it's a hoax" from dr limbaugh, like they did for global warming

TNNurse

(6,962 posts)
10. I have a friend who is a widow. This is her third Christmas since her husband died.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:27 AM
Dec 2020

She lost a brother this summer, has another in a nursing home she cannot visit. She wanted to go visit her older sister and brother-in-law since they have not seen each other since their brother died, but she will not. Although she is very careful. she said " I could never forgive myself if I gave them something". She will spend the day alone with her dog out of love for her siblings.

She told me this as I sat across the room from her after delivering her a little present. I wanted to hug her, but I have not touched another human being except my husband since March.

Rorey

(8,455 posts)
26. Aura hugs
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:35 AM
Dec 2020

My grandsons and I made up "aura hugs". We do the motion of a hug, but it can be from a distance. The look on my four-year-old grandson's face when he gives me an "aura hug" is just absolutely precious.

Might be silly, but it works for me. For now.

Rorey

(8,455 posts)
28. Whoa! Maybe we didn't make them up!
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:38 AM
Dec 2020

I just googled "aura hug" and it's a thing.

We've been doing them for well over a decade, so I don't know......

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
60. I agree, Blanche.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:33 AM
Dec 2020

It's so sad, and infuriating in the sense that it was completely preventable had the daughter had not been so careless and selfish. She is entirely to blame for her father's death and will have to live with that for the rest of her life

I am not going to see my family for the holidays because it would mean gathering in a crowded train station with people who may not mask and traveling on a train. I would never forgive myself if I had carried the virus to my parents or my sister and her family. Also, I do not trust that her teenage children are safe and do not even want my parents to go because I don't trust that the children are safe. . All I can do is hope for the best. But I will not participate.

Nice to see you here again and wishing you Happy Holidays!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
61. I don't have any family so I haven't had to worry this year.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 09:58 AM
Dec 2020

I wonder if that woman will even see that she killed her Dad? Denial is strong and she sounds like she could be a pro.

Happy Holidays to you too, good to see you, smirky!!!

AllaN01Bear

(19,878 posts)
18. travel ban in ca . yet our stoopid r county mounty cant(read wont ) inforce mask or travel.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 10:35 AM
Dec 2020

i know a lot of ppl who feel they are immune to everything , and like a poster above me said ," wait untill it happens to you". or someone you know. i live in a 40 unit apartment complex and there are a number of ppl who feel that way fom ss cuts and other program cuts to covid 19. its always those other ppl.man , that has got to be hard.

Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #18)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. I have no more tears to cry. My heart has turned into stone.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 10:59 AM
Dec 2020

So... if someone is SO selfish that they can't care enough about themselves or their loved ones... then I don't care either. She knew the risks, and decided to roll-the-dice anyway. She's getting EXACTLY what she bargained for. In exchange for her "freedom" and "liberty" and a good-time-on-the-town... she receives sickness and grief. Feh! Too fucking bad. Hard lessons learned, eh?

I hope they are able to tell their sad sad stories... maybe someone else will learn from the mistakes of others.

Liberal In Texas

(13,739 posts)
24. Also from that website. People going to Disney -
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:11 AM
Dec 2020




I wish more of these stories were being broadcast. Too many people say, "I don't know anybody who has covid." "It's all overblown." "It isn't that serious."

EarthFirst

(2,917 posts)
31. My in laws live two houses away...
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 11:43 AM
Dec 2020

My wife and I have not been over to visit in eight months.

We talk to one another in the backyard with the neighbors yard separating us.

Even with the precautions we take in our household; it just isn’t worth risking it.

Soon enough!

This too shall pass...

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,799 posts)
38. Some way or another, many of these COVID Killers will blame Democrats for the deaths.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 04:04 PM
Dec 2020

I was just reading a twitter thread with a bunch of Trump Death Cultists posating. Their logic and reason is severely impaired and they believe they are heroic patriots and Dems are Devil worshipers whom God will any day now strike down. God's vengeance on the evil Dems will start, at the very latest, with Trump being inaugurated in January for his second term.

It is mind-boggling, frustrating, and frightening.

Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #38)

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,799 posts)
50. I always blame RW media, thinking of Fox, Lush Slimeball, etc. But, you're right. Those damn Ruskies
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:08 PM
Dec 2020

are in this right up to their hammers and sickles. Makes it even more galling that the RW US dupes think they're great patriots!


Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #50)

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,799 posts)
52. Such a shame, as computerism had such great positive potential. That's the problem with sharing
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:15 PM
Dec 2020

the planet with evil people. We just can't have nice things!



(I'm not sure when that smiley would be appropriate, but it kinda fits here.)

yellowdogintexas

(22,368 posts)
39. my husband gets so angry at the folks who let their nose and/or mouth
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 04:05 PM
Dec 2020

come out from under the mask.

Being that angry is not good for him.

Dem2theMax

(9,708 posts)
41. My cousin is in the hospital right now, because he visited his son during Thanksgiving.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 04:28 PM
Dec 2020

I love my cousin, but this is beyond stupid.
(And yes, they are Republicans.)

My cousin's son had covid-19. And for some reason, my cousin and his wife thought it would be a good idea to travel to another state to visit that son for Thanksgiving.

I am guessing they thought the son was no longer contagious.

Wrong. The son got another covid test while they were there, and it came back positive again. Four days after their arrival, my cousin and his wife started having symptoms.

A week after that, my cousin is in the hospital with covid-19 related pneumonia.



This cousin is more like a brother to me. I'm hoping like crazy that he will have a full recovery.

But I will never understand how people are ignoring the facts.

Liberty Belle

(9,555 posts)
49. All of us oldies should change our wills to disinherit any relatives who foolishly take chances
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 08:57 PM
Dec 2020

that result in their parents, grandparents, or other older relatives dying of COVID-19. Be sure they all know about that new clause in your will.

Perhaps greed will accomplish what decency couldn't.

Response to Liberty Belle (Reply #49)

AllyCat

(16,367 posts)
55. My neighbor had relatives over for thanksgiving after she tested positive.
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 10:27 PM
Dec 2020

Her mom died this week.

2Legit

(90 posts)
58. A high school classmate was posting video of herself driving from TEXAS to Missouri for Thanksgiving
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:40 AM
Dec 2020

to visit her mother.

When she returned to Texas, she came down with Covid. Then, last night, she posted in a panic that her 80+ year old mom had been rushed to the hospital with Covid.

I don't know what part of drowning in your own fluids is a horrible way to die that people do not understand.

I had a mild case of Covid earlier this year and it was absolutely miserable. I can't imagine being sicker than I was because it was pretty bad. I still feel as if I'm dealing with after effects. I'm having a hard time discerning whether my energy level, memory and attention span have gotten weaker this year because of Covid or because I'm 56.



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