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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:36 PM Oct 2012

hankerchief or cheat sheet. (added "both" as a choice)

my eyes are not good enough.





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hankerchief
5 (17%)
cheat sheet
17 (59%)
both
7 (24%)
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hankerchief or cheat sheet. (added "both" as a choice) (Original Post) seabeyond Oct 2012 OP
both? they're not mutually exclusive.... unblock Oct 2012 #1
BOTH! aletier_v Oct 2012 #2
It doesn't matter-- his overt lying should be enough to impugn his character. nt. andym Oct 2012 #3
+1 nt NCTraveler Oct 2012 #5
I saw a clip with an enlarged close-up of the podium. It did not looked like folded paper there. Blue Meany Oct 2012 #4
Link? Fearless Oct 2012 #10
It does appear to bounce.. AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #6
It didn't bounce... FSogol Oct 2012 #24
LOL AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #39
Cheat sheet hidden in a handkerchief folded, Panasonic Oct 2012 #7
Not quite sure johnnie Oct 2012 #8
He walks off with papers after the debate. Fearless Oct 2012 #9
Cheat sheet railsback Oct 2012 #11
lol. and since he lies about everything, it has to be what he does NOT seabeyond Oct 2012 #14
Crib notes fit on a hanky, although it appears a bit crumpled, folded paper. cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #12
Could be cheat sheet in the hanky. Jennicut Oct 2012 #13
"In any case, he is still a LIAR." bottom line it, sistah... lol. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #16
If you enlarge the video Politicalboi Oct 2012 #15
Can't tell aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #17
Hanky used as cover for a cheat sheet. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #18
paper. Stop the video at exactly 13 or 14 seconds JanMichael Oct 2012 #19
when i tap go/pause, go/pause it does appear to stay stiff, not hanky. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #20
I voted both Whisp Oct 2012 #21
Cheat sheet. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #22
People usually keep a handkerchief in their pocket till they need it Pithlet Oct 2012 #23
He purposefully did it in a sneaky way, and if that is a handkerchief adigal Oct 2012 #25
You can write on a handkerchief too. tblue Oct 2012 #26
Handkerchief - and he did pull it our in full view of some in the audience. RC Oct 2012 #27
Good points! randome Oct 2012 #31
he has a handkerchief in he breast pocket....Why would he carry one in hist right front pants INdemo Oct 2012 #28
That is a pocket square in his breast pocket. HappyMe Oct 2012 #32
Romney had nothing showing in his breast pocket. RC Oct 2012 #37
Hard to say it wasn't a hankerchief after seeing this from buzzfeed: Skip Intro Oct 2012 #29
Can't tell, did Rmoney look down at it? treestar Oct 2012 #30
perhaps it was a hanky to wipe off the notes written on his palm. eom ellenfl Oct 2012 #33
close-up animated gif pokerfan Oct 2012 #34
Sorry to be so clueless..but there is a very large screen grab in a previous post.. nenagh Oct 2012 #35
I think it's probably just a handkerchief gollygee Oct 2012 #36
me, too. and.... lol, me, too. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #38
I said both. nc4bo Oct 2012 #40
It would be strange to put a hanky there Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #41
 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
7. Cheat sheet hidden in a handkerchief folded,
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

then unfolded.

Hanky is used as a prop.

But look at the end, he shuffles papers and tries to hide them.

johnnie

(23,616 posts)
8. Not quite sure
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

I think it is a cheat sheet, but I also think that what he grabbed at the end was notes he had taken during the debate. Of course his cheat sheet could be inside the folded paper, but I wouldn't use what he had at the end that there is proof he brought a cheat sheet.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
9. He walks off with papers after the debate.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:42 PM
Oct 2012

Also it is way to stiff to be just cloth. Perhaps it is a cloth with a paper in it. He does also pick up papers after the debate, but not anything cloth.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
11. Cheat sheet
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:43 PM
Oct 2012

Because the Romney campaign (Mittens has nothing to hide in his tax returns, so he's not releasing them) said it was a handkerchief.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. lol. and since he lies about everything, it has to be what he does NOT
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:45 PM
Oct 2012

say.

ya know. that old, boy that cried wolf.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
12. Crib notes fit on a hanky, although it appears a bit crumpled, folded paper.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:44 PM
Oct 2012

It is logic. You don't surreptitiously bring out a hanky and toss it on the lecturn...out of your front pocket. And a hanky doesn't shake down with a stack of paper. And you don't hand your son a dirty hanky.

Fail on many levels ... but we've already given in to the "they explained it already...move on...nothing to see here."

Hell, that's how he got here...Privileged, Lying, Cheating, Entitled, Arrogant White Man. Pissed me off to hear about the "Angry Black Man Syndrome" because Obama was so ashamed he put his head down. Is there no event that does not drag in his parentage?

Mitt was hyper and had crib notes...hanky, folded up piece of paper, whatever. We don't need to get over it.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
13. Could be cheat sheet in the hanky.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:45 PM
Oct 2012

The way it lands when it hits the podium is slightly heavy for just a hanky. And then the suspicious movement to get rid of some paper at the end of the debate. And using the hanky during the debate so one can say "see, I used my hanky!".

Or maybe I am just looking into this too much. I don't usually like to decide things without tons of evidence. But Mitt has cheated in a debate before...

In any case, he is still a LIAR.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
15. If you enlarge the video
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:45 PM
Oct 2012

And click start stop real close you can see it better. It looks like paper to me. Plus just the way Rmoney is just looking straight ahead to see if Jim saw him pull it out or not.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
17. Can't tell
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:50 PM
Oct 2012

I want to know what the rules were. I would think it against the rules to bring anything to the lectern that isn't already there. Even if it appears to be a handkerchief that still troubles me because you can't be sure. It's more of the Romney arrogance of "trust me, even though I haven't done anything to earn your trust. I'm entitled to do whatever I want."

JanMichael

(24,893 posts)
19. paper. Stop the video at exactly 13 or 14 seconds
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:58 PM
Oct 2012

no cloth would hold it's shape like that. Cloth would be draped from the moment it left his pocket.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
21. I voted both
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:07 PM
Oct 2012

He has that knowing smirk when he looks at the camera. When he puts the hanky down it sort of flops, like it has a bit of weight - paper wouldn't do that unless it was a notepad. but he could easily put notes inside that hanky.

I think he wiped his mug once during the debates with that hanky. Maybe I'm mistaken. anyway, he's a known liar and cheater so of course he would do that. That smug look on his face practically broadcasts it.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
22. Cheat sheet.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:11 PM
Oct 2012

It is too stiff to be a hankerchief, unless there is paper inside. Further more, he waits until the lectern blocks Leher's view before pulling it out of his pocket.

Pithlet

(25,089 posts)
23. People usually keep a handkerchief in their pocket till they need it
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:16 PM
Oct 2012

That's why I vote cheat sheet. It's hard to tell absolutely for sure just by looking at it. I'm going based on behavior.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
25. He purposefully did it in a sneaky way, and if that is a handkerchief
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:22 PM
Oct 2012

that has some serious starch on it!!!

tblue

(16,350 posts)
26. You can write on a handkerchief too.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:28 PM
Oct 2012

Doesn't matter. Did he wipe his face with his hanky? No. He didn't need one. He cheated. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
27. Handkerchief - and he did pull it our in full view of some in the audience.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:33 PM
Oct 2012

Look in the area of the woman in the white shawl, to the right of the podium.
If it was paper, where is the footage of him opening it up?
Why didn't the mikes pick up the sound when he opened it?
If it were paper, why not wait until fully behind the podium?
Why not have an aid slip something in the papers already on the podium?
Better yet, why not have an ear piece?
I swear the paranoia can run as deep here as it does over on the other side.
Look at the video again. Don't believe everything you read, check for yourself.

Truth and facts are important. With the way he lied and blinded sided Obama with shit, I really don't think he needed any cheat sheets.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
28. he has a handkerchief in he breast pocket....Why would he carry one in hist right front pants
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:43 PM
Oct 2012

pocket. Im betting it is a larger size post it notes pad. Several pages of notes various subjects.
And why was he so sneaky pulling that out of his pocket? Nope definately not a handerchief..

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
37. Romney had nothing showing in his breast pocket.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 03:18 PM
Oct 2012

That white thing was his American Flag pin.

With witnesses like posting here, no wonder there are so many unsolved crimes.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
30. Can't tell, did Rmoney look down at it?
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:46 PM
Oct 2012

If he appeared to consult it, he'd have to look down at it. He didn't seem to take any notes and seemed to look at Obama with a smirk most of the time.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
34. close-up animated gif
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:55 PM
Oct 2012

If it was crib notes, it's forgivable because it's hard, damned hard to keep all those lies straight.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
35. Sorry to be so clueless..but there is a very large screen grab in a previous post..
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:56 PM
Oct 2012

The pic shows both Pres Obama and Romney from the back, during the debate& you can see something odd? on Romney's lectern.

The resolution is excellent.. Sorry I can't link it..

The Du post was by 'cleduc', Oct 4, 10:16 am..'Did Romney bring cheat notes into the debate..

Hexola (#18) posted the photo at 11:10 am.... It shows what is on the 'desk' area of Romney's lectern.

I don't know when during the debate the photo was taken..

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
36. I think it's probably just a handkerchief
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:58 PM
Oct 2012

I can see him wanting to have it out so he doesn't have to dig in his pants during the debate if he needs to wipe his brow.

I'm enjoying the speculation though

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
40. I said both.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:26 AM
Oct 2012

I know there are many who think this is a big fat nothing issue, perhaps it is, perhaps it ain't but just the fact that we are even having this discussion proves a small point.

Mitt Romney and the Romney campaign has a problem defining Mitt Romney's character in a positive way. They've ALWAYS have had this problem! All the hard work they've done to define the public's perception of the Mitt Romney brand failed and is easily chipped away.

That so many people are questioning these actions proves to me that all the building-up of the shell aka Mitt Romney is on very shaky ground.

It's not about the CHEAT, it's the fact that we're questioning Mitt Romney's character.


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