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PuppyBismark

(595 posts)
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 01:48 PM Mar 2021

Apparently HIPAA Stops Companies from telling customers if their staff has been vaccinated

Last edited Mon Mar 22, 2021, 10:53 PM - Edit history (2)

I called an amusement company that has less than 10 employees and which has to have close contact with the customer and asked if everyone has been vaccinated. The owner told me he could not provide that information because of HIPAA rules. Well this is going to be an issue to many customers all over the country.

I did a quick Google search which indicated if the employees permitted, the owner could disclose that information. A more controversial subject is if a company could require proof of vaccination to continue employment. Likewise, it may soon be the case that proof of vaccination may be required to fly.

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Apparently HIPAA Stops Companies from telling customers if their staff has been vaccinated (Original Post) PuppyBismark Mar 2021 OP
Ffs! SheltieLover Mar 2021 #1
I should think a company could require vaccination as a condition of employment. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #2
Until full FDA approval, mandatory anything won't happen jimfields33 Mar 2021 #5
The problem is you'll likely need a booster in a few years. It'll be similar to the flu shot, Calista241 Mar 2021 #19
HIPAA likesmountains 52 Mar 2021 #3
It's HIPAA. Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #4
It doesn't matter if employees are vaccinated or not. Yavin4 Mar 2021 #6
It now looks like the Pfizer vaccine does mostly prevent asymptomatic spread. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #8
"might" is not the same as "will". Yavin4 Mar 2021 #11
That's why I said more research is needed. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #12
You said "people can still" which is guessing also! nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #17
I think a company can say they "require employees to get vaccinated." Although I doubt Hoyt Mar 2021 #7
Yes, there's a difference between requiring vaccination as a condition of employment Ocelot II Mar 2021 #9
I'd have a hard time imposing a fine on a company that said their employees were vaccinated, Hoyt Mar 2021 #13
Yes it is a private medical issue GusBob Mar 2021 #10
This obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #18
Not in a pandemic, it ain't. Jirel Mar 2021 #20
You should get right on that GusBob Mar 2021 #21
HIPAA is a good thing, use universal precautions (assume everyone else might have uppityperson Mar 2021 #14
HIPAA. Treefrog Mar 2021 #15
Companies should require unvaccinated employees (regardless of reason) to wear masks. RockRaven Mar 2021 #16

Ocelot II

(115,900 posts)
2. I should think a company could require vaccination as a condition of employment.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 01:54 PM
Mar 2021

My last job before retirement required drug testing; I had to pee in a cup before I was officially hired. This is a pretty common practice where the job is safety-related and it's entirely legal. Seems to me that where a job involves regular close contact with the public or even with other employees, the employer could require vaccination for safety/public health reasons, just like drug testing.

jimfields33

(16,024 posts)
5. Until full FDA approval, mandatory anything won't happen
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 01:59 PM
Mar 2021

After full approval, then you will see many mandatory issuances. As far as giving out medical history, I’m glad they are not. Yes I’ll be vaccinated, but if they allow for this information to be released, what’s next.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
19. The problem is you'll likely need a booster in a few years. It'll be similar to the flu shot,
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 04:25 PM
Mar 2021

where everyone (that wants one) has to get a flu shot every fall. In addition, one you pee in a cup (or give blood) for a company, there's all kinds of things they could look for and deny you employment for. I'm not a fan of peeing in a cup.

Yavin4

(35,452 posts)
6. It doesn't matter if employees are vaccinated or not.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:02 PM
Mar 2021

Vaccinated people can still carry the virus and spread it around. That's why the CDC tells people to still wear a mask after vaccination.

Ocelot II

(115,900 posts)
8. It now looks like the Pfizer vaccine does mostly prevent asymptomatic spread.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:13 PM
Mar 2021
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/vaccines-prevent-asymptomatic-infection-key-ending-pandemic-rcna444 Of course more research is necessary but it does appear that being vaccinated might also keep you from spreading the virus.

Yavin4

(35,452 posts)
11. "might" is not the same as "will".
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:31 PM
Mar 2021

Also, we don't know who gets which vaccine.

In the end, it does not matter.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. I think a company can say they "require employees to get vaccinated." Although I doubt
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:03 PM
Mar 2021

anyone would file a complaint (at least hope not), a company probably shouldn't say "Joe Blow is vaccinated, but his stupid trumperster brother it not."

Ocelot II

(115,900 posts)
9. Yes, there's a difference between requiring vaccination as a condition of employment
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:16 PM
Mar 2021

and publicizing which individual employees have been vaccinated, which probably would violate HIPAA. If a business states that all of its employees are required to be vaccinated, would that violate HIPAA? One could infer that if a particular person works for that business, he/she must have been vaccinated.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. I'd have a hard time imposing a fine on a company that said their employees were vaccinated,
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:46 PM
Mar 2021

because that's a good thing.

Now if a company said all their employees had been treated for syphilis or something, that might get a company fined.

Interestingly, the government agency that overseas HIPPA complaints is the Office of Civil Rights.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
10. Yes it is a private medical issue
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:20 PM
Mar 2021

I dont have a problem with it at all

Would you want to know if female employees were on birth control? Or HIV positive?

People who don’t understand HIPAA always spell it wrong by the way

Jirel

(2,026 posts)
20. Not in a pandemic, it ain't.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 04:54 PM
Mar 2021

Easy fix - amend HIPAA to exclude group (not individually identifiable) information on infection and vaccination.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
14. HIPAA is a good thing, use universal precautions (assume everyone else might have
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:51 PM
Mar 2021

it, or at least not be vaccinated).

RockRaven

(15,037 posts)
16. Companies should require unvaccinated employees (regardless of reason) to wear masks.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 03:20 PM
Mar 2021

It is both a customer safety and workplace safety issue, apart from wider public health implications.

I don't give a fuck the why of the non vaccination, the why doesn't erase the difference in risk to customers and coworkers and self.

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