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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Mon May 9, 2022, 09:46 PM May 2022

Do you know anyone who opposes birth control and wants it banned?


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Do you know anyone who opposes birth control and wants it banned? (Original Post) milestogo May 2022 OP
Not personally, but I do monitor anti-abortion activists and it's not an uncommon stance. WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #1
I met a nurse once who did. Lars39 May 2022 #2
I do know some Catholic women who oppose abortion milestogo May 2022 #3
It kinda shocked me....she was in her early twenties, Lars39 May 2022 #5
The Meaning of Life. TheBlackAdder May 2022 #14
I was raised Catholic, have lots of Catholic friends Diamond_Dog May 2022 #4
I know two who would admit it proudly. I suspect Maru Kitteh May 2022 #6
I know someone Freddie May 2022 #7
I have a High School friend who runs a megachurch in Missouri..... brooklynite May 2022 #8
Whole slew of anti abortion relatives AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #9
Until today why would anyone ever even ask that question? JanMichael May 2022 #10
Some of us were conceived before contraception was legal and widely available. milestogo May 2022 #11
Unfortunately, it is a position held unapologetically by radtrad Catholic... keep_left May 2022 #12
I didn't know there were ultra-radtrad Catholic types. milestogo May 2022 #13
Oh, yeah, they're out there. You find them more on the internet... keep_left May 2022 #17
No, but I don't associate with anyone who has a two digit IQ which by definition is half of America. PCIntern May 2022 #15
As more and more psycho R polls call for it Cosmocat May 2022 #16
Hobby Lobby! Will not pay insurance money to women for contraceptives katmondoo May 2022 #18

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
3. I do know some Catholic women who oppose abortion
Mon May 9, 2022, 09:55 PM
May 2022

but they all use some form of artificial birth control. Even if their Church doesn't know it.

Lars39

(26,120 posts)
5. It kinda shocked me....she was in her early twenties,
Mon May 9, 2022, 09:58 PM
May 2022

probably not that long out of nursing school.

TheBlackAdder

(28,261 posts)
14. The Meaning of Life.
Mon May 9, 2022, 11:11 PM
May 2022

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Perhaps since 2005, Protestants were purged from SCOTUS -- Add devout Catholics and now you see the issue.
Justice Jackson will be the first Protestant in 16 years. Gorsuch doesn't count as he closely aligns with Catholicism.

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Diamond_Dog

(32,209 posts)
4. I was raised Catholic, have lots of Catholic friends
Mon May 9, 2022, 09:57 PM
May 2022

Virtually no one abides by the rule against using birth control.

Freddie

(9,282 posts)
7. I know someone
Mon May 9, 2022, 10:06 PM
May 2022

She’s my age (beyond childbearing) and hyper-Catholic. She was raised ELCA Lutheran (like me) and married a Catholic. They never had children. She told me they “were not blessed with children” so I can presume there were fertility issues, and being devout Catholics, they did not pursue treatments. Of course she can oppose birth control, it was never an issue for her.

brooklynite

(95,036 posts)
8. I have a High School friend who runs a megachurch in Missouri.....
Mon May 9, 2022, 10:08 PM
May 2022

I can guess what his opinion is, but I wouldn't assume anything.

JanMichael

(24,902 posts)
10. Until today why would anyone ever even ask that question?
Mon May 9, 2022, 10:13 PM
May 2022

If you did ask the person might think you are certifiably insane. It is a non-starter.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
11. Some of us were conceived before contraception was legal and widely available.
Mon May 9, 2022, 10:20 PM
May 2022

Margaret Sanger spent her life devoted to making contraception legal and widely available. We take it for granted now, but there used to be a lot of opposition.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/pill-margaret-sanger-1879-1966/

Upon hearing that Republicans want to get rid of contraception too, I have to wonder how many voters feel that way. Being anti-choice is by no means the same as being anti-contraception.

keep_left

(1,801 posts)
12. Unfortunately, it is a position held unapologetically by radtrad Catholic...
Mon May 9, 2022, 10:31 PM
May 2022

...radio, TV, and internet sources. And I should say, not even the ultra-radtrad types (the ones obsessed with Latin Masses and women wearing mantillas). Even "mainstream" radtrad and conservative Catholic outfits like EWTN and (Ir)-Relevant Radio push a hard anti-contraception line 24/7. They have even invented their own thought-terminating clichés, like "the contraceptive mentality" and "being open to life".

You may be right that the random "normie" on the street would think these people insane, but that doesn't seem to dissuade the zealots running EWTN (or their audience).

keep_left

(1,801 posts)
17. Oh, yeah, they're out there. You find them more on the internet...
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:34 AM
May 2022

...than you do in real life. So they have their extremist Reddit groups, and before that, their websites. Social media really turned things up to 11, because you don't have to drive traffic to a website like you did in the late '90s; there's now millions, maybe more, browsing social media and looking for the latest way to be extreme. It acts like an extremism amplifier. EWTN is sort of the diving board into the pool of extremism within Catholicism.

Many radtrads look at it like a competition to be the most extreme. The younger ultra-radtrads absolutely hate EWTN for being...too liberal. From there, they move on to (Ir)-Relevant Radio, then to Ave Maria Radio, and on to various online-only programming, and then they search out local radtrad Latin Mass "societies". Most large cities have them. Cradle Catholics--who are generally averse to radtradism--often call them "Lexus Masses" because many of the parishioners are quite well-off and commute in from the suburbs to a usually little-used former geographical parish that has been repurposed into a Latin-Mass-only church. The priest comes in on Sunday, says a couple radtrad Masses, and then locks the place up until next week.

The latest thing with the radtrads is to leave Catholicism for Eastern Orthodoxy (e.g. Rod Dreher), and if that's not traddy or "based" enough, they join ROCOR (Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia).

Cosmocat

(14,595 posts)
16. As more and more psycho R polls call for it
Mon May 9, 2022, 11:26 PM
May 2022

There will be more push back from us, and that will rapidly drive support up from Rs, which will drive our push back ...

About half the country will support it it simply because we will be opposing it.

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