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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:09 AM Nov 2012

ABC pushing the anger is rising and should be ashamed.

I'm sorry, but let's get realistic about how fast cleaning up can occur after such a huge disaster. Instead of pushing anger, let's facilitate communicating what type of assistance is needed and where. Good grief, the sea came inland with great force. It scoured beaches and slammed debris around on a huge scale. It cannot all be cleaned up in a week's time. Four years after the 2008 floods we are still removing debris in this area while we are rebuilding. Let's help people be safe for now. No city, regardless of how huge, has the resources to clean up something like this on its own in such a speedy fashion. Our state has sent crews to help and I know many other states have too. But for this media outlet to be dealing with bad situation in this manner is not helpful.



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ABC pushing the anger is rising and should be ashamed. (Original Post) Skidmore Nov 2012 OP
That's disgusting treestar Nov 2012 #1
MSNBC doing same. Liberal In LA did an OP about it... nc4bo Nov 2012 #2
Yeah, and just what's taken Obama so long to clean up Bush's economic disaster? deutsey Nov 2012 #3
Anger Sells. That's Just The Way It Is. SingleSeatBiggerMeat Nov 2012 #4
And where was the outrage when bu$h/Brownie fucked up the Katrina recovery ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #8
Exactly Lilyeye Nov 2012 #20
I said on Tuesday that this meme was coming... winstars Nov 2012 #5
BAD FORM ABC - as Captain Hook would say. Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #6
Every media outlet which does this needs to hear from people. Skidmore Nov 2012 #7
I'm confused: are you saying that people AREN'T getting angry? brooklynite Nov 2012 #9
I interpreted it as reporting news loyalsister Nov 2012 #10
Fox too bongbong Nov 2012 #11
Please. theKed Nov 2012 #13
So they're saying on fox that anger is growing that the very ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #14
Yeah, well... bongbong Nov 2012 #18
CNN reporter: People angry at no electricity, may show their anger at the polls. moondust Nov 2012 #12
Or manipulate the perceptions of people outside the areas of devastation... nc4bo Nov 2012 #15
Yes. moondust Nov 2012 #17
After Katrina, we had no electricity for a week. Bake Nov 2012 #22
As one who has been through several disasters like this, the things that are happening on the Grammy23 Nov 2012 #16
Remember ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #19
Word to ABC malaise Nov 2012 #21
Yet "Brownie" still insists that Obama overreacted SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #23

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
2. MSNBC doing same. Liberal In LA did an OP about it...
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:13 AM
Nov 2012

They will be extremely predictable.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021678252

I agree with you, it's going to take some time, this will be NO Katrina and that is going to have the RW and M$M setting themselves on fire but it's going to take time.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
3. Yeah, and just what's taken Obama so long to clean up Bush's economic disaster?
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:13 AM
Nov 2012


I hope we never have to learn how long it will take privatized disaster relief to fix things.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
8. And where was the outrage when bu$h/Brownie fucked up the Katrina recovery
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:49 AM
Nov 2012

so monumentally?

I don't remember seeing it from the corprat media. I saw it on KOS, here, and other places, but not from ABC, CBS, etc. and certainly not from Fux. And certainly not only two days after the disaster. Hell, bu$h didn't even bother to go there until 4 days later when he flew over then left.

Lilyeye

(1,417 posts)
20. Exactly
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:45 PM
Nov 2012

I remember the media reporting on the "thugs" who were raping and killing people in the dome. Turned out that a lot of those reports were bullshit. Bush didn't really get hammered until some brave souls went against the media and started becoming angry. I watched Shep Smith and Geraldo tell off Hannity, who wanted to talk about the criminal behavior in the dome. I loved every minute of it.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
5. I said on Tuesday that this meme was coming...
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:18 AM
Nov 2012

Our President could be up on a frigging pole with spikes and a hard hat on, personally reconnecting the electricity today and if there is one (1) person left with power,

ITS THE BLACK GUYS FAULT!!!



Its a no brainer...

Obama's Katrina!!!

Federal Response Too Slow!!!

BTW, He Is Still Black!!!


There is no way Faux and the rest will not do this, starting today.


Look for our side to have a massive display today of Federal action today, like when the National Guard finally arrived in NOLA with Gen. Honore in command.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
6. BAD FORM ABC - as Captain Hook would say.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:32 AM
Nov 2012

Even blood thirsty murderous pirates have a certain point of decorum.

How far is ABC's head up the Koch machine's arse?

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
7. Every media outlet which does this needs to hear from people.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:33 AM
Nov 2012

Shame on them for making a bad situation worse.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
9. I'm confused: are you saying that people AREN'T getting angry?
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:51 AM
Nov 2012

....which I would assume would be a natural development. Or are you saying that the job of the media is to change the story, rather than report it?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. I interpreted it as reporting news
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:06 AM
Nov 2012

I think that reporting that people are angry opens the door for people to step back really consider the reality of the circumstances. The things rarely if ever reported during Katrina was the fact that many people were looting because they were hungry. I think giving some truth about what people are feeling has a place in media reporting.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
11. Fox too
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:08 AM
Nov 2012

I took a quick (QUICK) look at the faux "news" website after another thread mentioned all it has for leading news is Libya. And that is absolutely true. But they do mention Sandy - but only to say anger is growing and that the gov't is failing to fix things fast enough.

The alternate reality they create for their sheep is really quite a work of art.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
13. Please.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:28 AM
Nov 2012

You give them far too much credit. Fox reality manipulation is to art, as a ball pein hammer is to surgery. Theirs is a blunt, brute force truth alteration. A complete lack of finesse and subtlety. It works, but it's brutally obvious.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
14. So they're saying on fox that anger is growing that the very
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:31 AM
Nov 2012

government they hate isn't doing the job fast enough?

SMH

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
18. Yeah, well...
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:21 PM
Nov 2012

... consistency and logic is frowned upon by repigs, and is grounds for expulsion from the party.

Along the same lines, thinking and/or not obeying orders are considered the highest heresy.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
12. CNN reporter: People angry at no electricity, may show their anger at the polls.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:16 AM
Nov 2012

Heard that one last night and said WHAT?!!

I doubt that happens in the affected states but that doesn't mean CNN won't try to tell people what to do on election day.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
15. Or manipulate the perceptions of people outside the areas of devastation...
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

who perhaps, have never lived through such a widespread national disaster as a hurricane, storm surge and massive flooding in a heavily populated area like the NE.



This isn't a wave a magic wand and everything will be repaired overnight problem. The various govt agencies must do everything they can to address people in immediate danger, supply food, water, shelter and I have every confidence that they are and will. At least THIS time I know and everyone should take comfort in knowing that FEMA, the Fed, state and local officials, Red Cross - everyone will be doing all of these things.

Absolutely nothing wrong with officials from places like Hoboken pleading for assistance, voices must be heard, acknowledgement of the needs and aid given asap. But for the media to try to treat this Administration like the one who let Katrina drown, is not the right thing to do.

The media are vultures looking for a buck and isn't above creating a situation where they can benefit.

Unlike the previous administration, there is competent and caring leadership here. People should know that!

moondust

(19,979 posts)
17. Yes.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:44 AM
Nov 2012

I guess it's a good thing the election isn't more than a few days away. No telling how much anger and "dissatisfaction with government and the administration" they could conjure up if they had a month to work on it.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
22. After Katrina, we had no electricity for a week.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 04:23 PM
Nov 2012

And we were 160 miles inland.

People will cope as best they can. Even a fool recognizes that given the scale of this disaster, it's going to take time.

Bake

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
16. As one who has been through several disasters like this, the things that are happening on the
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:43 AM
Nov 2012

East Coast are completely predictable. There is a brief period after the storm where people assess the damages, start to absorb the reality and try to get together a game plan for dealing with it. Then the mind numbing reality sets in and it gets old rather quickly. As they said this morning on MSNBC, "The novelty wear off."

The media could help with this by encouraging people to be patient and to understand the enormity of the problem. The lack of electric ty has a huge impact on a community that sometimes takes the citizens by surprise. They may have never even thought about what happens when a whole community is without electricity. One of the reporters on the news this a.m. seemed surprised by the LONG LINES waiting to get gas. What is surprising about the fact that even though the service stations have gasoline in their underground tanks, they do NOT have electricity to pump it? When we had Hurricane Ivan in 2004, it was several days before some service stations were able to bring in generators to pump the gas. We had long lines and sometimes people got angry and did nasty things to others waiting in line.....like cutting in line or attempting to buy as much gas as possible without thinking that someone else might need some, too. They eventually had to impose limits on how much you could buy at one time. Same with ice and water.

In times of crisis, the people reporting on the event could do a greater service by encouraging civility and courteousness as the reality of the crisis impacts that community. Instead of reporting on how uncivil people are (or at least making that the focus of the story) how about explaining to people what the problem is and how they can help make the situation better and more tolerable for themselves and others. An attitude of "We're all in this together" sure beats the mantra of "It's every man for himself."



malaise

(268,968 posts)
21. Word to ABC
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 04:03 PM
Nov 2012

As long as folks can charge their phones and laptops as well as find food and water, the complaints will be minimal.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
23. Yet "Brownie" still insists that Obama overreacted
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 04:24 PM
Nov 2012

and jumped the gun.

This clown show gets funnier every day.

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