Macs and Subarus…Suddenly it all comes clear!

[Jackpine Radical]

http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac_the_vote_why_apple_users_are_predominantly_democrats

The Apple logo may be GOP red, but most of the Mac nation is DNC blue. That's the conclusion Charles Edge reached after consulting for hundreds for companies that use the Mac as their primary business computer.

"Most Mac guys are liberal," says Edge, director of IT at 318 Inc., one of the largest Mac consultancies in the U.S. The Mac has its roots in graphics, education and media companies. The advertising, marketing, video editing, sound, design and others who form the core of the Mac user market "are far more liberal minded than corporate finance, for example," Edge says.

Edge also does a lot of work with companies that have standardized on Windows, which he sees as much more of a red-state operating system. "You go out to a Microsoft client and they’re going to be really conservative," he says.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719867

Among volume cars, the one having the largest proportion of Republican buyers is Lincoln (39.3 percent), closely followed by Buick (39.0 percent), Mercury (38.4 percent), Cadillac (37.7 percent), and Chrysler (36.8 percent). More Democrats (42.1 percent) favor Subaru than any other make, followed by VW (39.5 percent), Honda (37.3 percent) and, surprise, Buick (36.9 percent).

No wonder both my wife & I drive Soobies & live in a house filled with Mac stuff (1 iPad, 2 Macbook Pros, 2 Macbook Airs, 2 iPod Touches, 2 iPhone 5's, 1 Airport Extreme, 1 Airport Express, a closet full of old white Macs & an antiquated Mac Mini, etc.)

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Perhaps, I could talk you out of a white Mac?

Mine I think is on last legs.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Mine was "retired" with a bad battery or something.

I'll check into the feasibility of maybe getting it repaired & getting the disk wiped. (Lots of confidential patient data) PM or email me.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. No problem

We'll keep nursing ours. The wireless is going. And such is life



Mom offered to get through American Express a new one...

I did replace the IPad though.

Wipe your drives and all that. Best Buy will give some credit and recycle them. I got 105 for my IPad 1.

[LiberalEsto]

2. What does it mean if you own Toyotas?

I didn't see them mentioned in the article

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Other articles list Toyotas as more favored by Dems than R's.

At least the smaller ones. Avalons & Tundras are probably Pubbiemobiles.

[Livluvgrow]

5. 2

Subies here I live on a mountain and I wouldn't trust any other vehicle unless it were awd to transport me around here

[MattBaggins]

6. I must be an anomoly

I drive Subaru but I am turned off to Apple products due to pricing and also, I'm sorry if this offends, but I have met more than a fair share of Macheads who are just insufferable.

[rightsideout]

7. I agree

And Steve Jobs gave $200,000 over the years to Democrats vs $5,000 or $10,000 (can't recall exactly) to Republicans.

Im a liberal with a graphic design degree and have had Macs since the Mac Plus days. Our family has 4 Macs now. (Mac Pro, G4, iMac and a PowerBook) I wouldn't use any other platform for designing projects.

What these Conservatives don't know is, if it wasn't for the creativity of the Liberals, they wouldn't be have all the social media gadgets available to them. I see all these Conservatives with iPhones and think geez, do they even have a clue?

I just think Liberals are generally more creative the Conservatives. Conservatives are so insular.

I never owned a Subaru but we have an electric powered Ford Escort I converted and a Prius.

[lumberjack_jeff]

32. I'd love to convert my Loyale wagon to electric.

Lead or LifePo? Do you have a post on evalbum?

[RebelOne]

8. Mac Mini and very liberal. n/t

[Initech]

9. I'm liberal and I don't own a Subaru and I'm a PC guy.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. 2 Subarus here, and mostly Windows machines, with a sprinkling of Macs and Linux. However, there

are way more Subarus than Macs in our area, based on hubby's observations as a computer fix-it guy.

[PD Turk]

11. No subaru, but

I have a shitload of macs. I'm a poor boy so I picked them up second hand. I have a 2006 intel iMac, 3 G5 dual processor Powermac towers. a dual processor G4 FW800 Powermac tower and the cutest little snow white G3 iMac from all the way back in 2001. They all work perfectly despite their age.

Yeah, they cost more when new, but they are built with real quality and they last a long time.

[northoftheborder]

12. Mac, IPhone, and Prius here with my donkey collection!

[ncgrits]

18. Hey doppelgänger! nt

[IDemo]

13. We commies are partial to Motorcycles and Linux n/t

[DirkGently]

14. Creatives have loved Macs since early desktop publishing. Any theories behind the car choices?

Honda / Acura guy here. Probably headed for a VW diesel next time out.

I'd probably like Subarus better if we had any need for 4WD down here in the tropics.

Is it the rural / urban / suburban split -- trucks make sense for red state country living; less in the cities and suburbs. Or are Republicans just more conservative when it comes to old school styling like Lincoln?

[politicat]

15. No subarus, lots of macs.

DH is all leg with iffy knees and finds the driving compartment of Soobies physically painful, otherwise we would have one.

We use android phones because we really don't like AT&T or Verizon, but most other machines are Mac.

However... There's another factor : we're affluent enough to have those choices. We don't have to rely on whatever's reliable down at the used car lot. (soobies don't show up on the used market as much; people keep them until they're dead) We have the leisure time to research our big ticket choices. We're not limited to the tigerdirect/amazon/bestbuy loss leader computer. I'm well aware of how lucky that makes us.

[cyglet]

16. I've had Macs for a long time

just bought a new Mac Pro. In the garage is a VW and a Jeep. So I guess there's some truth to it.

[hunter]

19. I run Linux and I hate cars.

If somebody gave me a mac or a new car I would give it away as fast as I could.

I'm still a Democrat, however.

[im1013]

20. Now that you mention it...

My son and I both have Subaru's, I have an Acura and 2 old VW's, and we both have MacBooks. Our home has 3 iphones, 1 ipad, Apple TV and an apple router.
My hubbie, on the other hand, has a Windows PC and drives a 1978 El Camino.

May be a product of upbringing... My son & I are from southeast Florida, but hubbie is from Mississippi.

[Union Scribe]

21. Pretty sad that Repugs back the domestics more than "pro-union" "Dems" nt

[LeftyMom]

24. Dems tend to be clustered in urban areas where small, efficient cars make more sense.

In the uber-liberal Bay Area it seems like every third car's a Prius, and Detroit gave Toyota a ten year head start before they offered something remotely comparable.

I'd guess that trend will start to change as domestic makes start to shed their reputation for making truly awful small cars. But that will take time. They made really, really bad small cars for decades, and a lot of people who were burned will be slow to risk their money on the promise of improvement.

[Zalatix]

33. Yes, this, 100%. And Toyota will be making the Prius in the USA as of 2015.

The Camry hybrid is already made in the USA.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/toyota-prius-will-be-made-in-the-u-s-a/

Beginning in 2015, Toyota plans to manufacture the popular hybrid on American soil in order to increase sales and profits.

It may have a Japanese badge, but the world’s most popular hybrid might soon be made in the good ole’ U.S. of A. Toyota is planning on making Priuses, specifically ones it wants to sell here, at an American plant. The company hopes this move will trim costs and increase availability of the hybrid hatchback.

Koei Saga, Toyota’s senior managing officer in charge of drivetrain R&D, told Automotive News that Toyota is looking to start Prius production in the U.S. beginning in 2015. This will coincide with the launch of a new, fourth-generation model.

Building the Prius in the U.S. has a couple of advantages for Toyota. First, it will negate the effect of the strong yen; the unfavorable exchange rate makes cars that are built in Japan and sold in America less profitable. Toyota shifted most of its Camry production to the U.S. for the same reason.

A second advantage is volume; building Priuses in the market where they are sold could help meet what Toyota expects to be ravenous demand. By 2015, Toyota says it will be selling 200,000 Priuses a year. Toyota did not say whether Prius “family members,” like the Prius C and Prius V, were included in this estimate. In 2011, the last full year of recorded sales, 136,463 of the hybrids were sold in North America.

[1gobluedem]

37. Not by union labor

And profits go back to Japan, which bars US imports. No thanks.

[Zalatix]

52. Japan bars imports from the US? That's a hell of a trade barrier.

And I'm no fan of non-union labor, but how does this compare to the car being made in Japan and sold here? I'd think that would be fewer jobs for us.

I see it as the cup half-full.

GM and the rest of these places source a lot of car parts from outside the country.

[pampango]

53. Japan is #4 in terms of imports from the US after Canada, Mexico and China. The UK and Germany

are next on the list after Japan.

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/top/top1208yr.html#exports

That hardly makes the case that Japan "bars US imports".

[Union Scribe]

50. Et tu? nt

[1gobluedem]

41. Research for the Prius was entirely state supported

It didn't make a profit for years; I don't know if it even does yet. Detroit had to pay for its own R&D and also fulfill customer demand for light trucks and SUVs. Makes a big difference.

[Union Scribe]

49. Oh nonsense, all excuses.

You guys all talk the talk and when you spend your money you refuse to walk the walk but you have lists of excuses ready to go, none of which stands up to any kind of realistic look at the industry. People who do not support our labor are not my political allies. You might as well be a Republican to me.

[LeftyMom]

54. You asked a question, you got an answer.

I buy my cars used because I can do math, so I'm not putting any money in your pocket either way.

[jeff47]

68. Yes, clearly we need to buy built-in-Mexico Fords. (nt)

[locks]

22. Purple CO

You can't throw a stick in the blue parts of Colorado without hitting a Subaru or a Prius. Romney's in Colorado Springs right now; came in one of his many Cadillacs.

[LeftyMom]

23. PC, iphone, '66 El Camino, 2000 Subaru Forester. I think I just hosed everybody's data.

:lol:

[im1013]

25. Yes!

[lumberjack_jeff]

35. PC/Linux/android, '70 Chevelle, '91 Subaru Loyale. You're not such an outlier

Not counting the GS750 suzuki, the S10 pickup, the Dodge Caliber or the K1500.

[panader0]

26. My '90 GMC pick up is deep blue, symbolizing my lifelong Democratic bent.

My '94 Taurus is green, symbolizing my concern for the environment.
Okay, they were those colors when I bought them, used.

[ananda]

27. I'm a Mac woman and very liberal!

Forward!

[GoCubsGo]

28. PC and a union-made Ford.

My next car will be another Ford, unless I wind up somewhere where all-wheel drive is a necessity. I'll probably wind up with another PC, as well, unless the lottery gods heap their blessings on me.

[McDiggy]

60. Same here. I will only buy Ford/Chrysler/GM...but really I only buy Ford.

I drive a Mercury Sable Premier built in Chicago and a Taurus built in Atlanta. Both by union workers. Buying Japanese, non-union cars is something I'd be embarrassed about. If Americans only bought American cars, Detroit would be an economic powerhouse and the recession would be over.

[daleo]

30. IPad and pc NetBoot, here

No car, public transit and walking.

And a kindle.

[lumberjack_jeff]

31. Macs? Pikers. Call me when you're running slackware.

Carrying Ubuntu boxes in my $200 Subaru. That's cred.

[flamingdem]

34. Where are the German cars?

That's what I see in my town

[Raine]

40. I also wonder about English cars. nt

[LeftyMom]

42. They're in the shop.

They're always in the shop.

[Raine]

44. LOL, that's true. nt

[Jackpine Radical]

47. VW's are on the Liberal approved list.

[taught_me_patience]

36. PC, Samsung, Subaru, Ford

and BMW and Ferragamo. What can I say... I'm a Gemini

[TBF]

38. Dell PC, Samsung Phone, Kindle Fire, and 2001 Subaru Outback. nt

[1gobluedem]

39. PC and Dodge

Not a fan of imports from countries that close their markets to ours. Or build in right to work states while actively union busting. Have never understood why progressives support that.

[Union Scribe]

51. Not just support it, BRAG about it.

Sickening.

[Stinky The Clown]

43. How is the Apple logo "GOP Red"? Jobs gave to Dems much more than to repubicans

[Jackpine Radical]

62. Jeez, Stinky--I didn't write it.

I guess some writer with an impoverished imagination let himself soar in the exalted realms of first-grader rhetoric.

[Stinky The Clown]

63. That was aimed at the article quoted, not at you.

[Jackpine Radical]

66. I know.

And truth to tell, the inanity of that red apple thing struck me too.

[argiel1234]

45. no mac stuff but 8th gen Honda civic owner

[Poiuyt]

46. I once heard that most Saab owners were Democrats

Yes, I have a Saab and several Macs. I am liberal.

[Jackpine Radical]

57. Yeah, liberals have a tendency to fall for

Saab stories.

[Poiuyt]

59. Oy

[Greybnk48]

48. LOL! I'm on my second Mac and I just bought a Subaru

Forester!! BTW, I was born a Dem.

[Odin2005]

55. Upper-Middle class hipster Latte Liberals like Mac? No Shit!!!

[Brother Buzz]

56. Mac house here, driving under the radar

We drive a Volvo wagon

[tabbycat31]

58. This PC using Democrat drives a Subaru

And when my beloved Forester moves on, will be driving another Forester.

I have an iPod classic (just got it after my old one died after 6 years) and an Android phone.

[modem77]

61. I have a Macbook and drive an F150 that was union made in Kansas City, MO.

Unfortunately the Macbook was made in Shanghai China.

[we can do it]

64. Maybe we are related? 2 Subarus and Macs all over

[Jackpine Radical]

65. I dunno--

You got 2 golden retrievers, a (1995 Mazda) pickup & an old John Deere tractor?

[we can do it]

67. Nope, 2 huge Maine Coone cats and a big organic garden

I provide the power for most of the yard work.

[Jackpine Radical]

72. No cats, but plenty of coons

and deer and turkeys and coyotes and fox and suchlike.

And of course an organic garden.

[we can do it]

75. We have raccoons, deer, skunks, birdies, etc outside.

and the two big spoiled kitties inside to watch all the action outside!

[hobbit709]

69. There's a hell of a lot more Democrats than Mac market share

[We are Devo]

70. Macs and Mazdas here

My boyfriend and I both drive Mazda3s and have way too many iThings. I did test drive a Prius and did not like! I really wanted to like it but I felt like I was driving a computer, not a car. I grew up driving aircooled VWs, I will always have a place in my heart for them.

[Jackpine Radical]

73. Stepson has a Prius (I tell him you're supposed to pronounce it

to rhyme with "pious&quot . If we didn't need 4/awd, I'd go for a diesel Jetta wagon before a Prius.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

71. No Subaru and a thoroughly unimpressed Iphone user.

Before the Iphone, I used my dumb phone to call people. After my Iphone, I use it to call people and occasionally take pictures (which is the only reason I gave in to getting one.)

Don't give a single crap about any Iphone ap.

[LeftInTX]

74. Hah!!! For 30 years we had bought Mercuries

But they went out of business.
We just bought a Subaru

[hughee99]

76. Linux and Ford for me,

though I do have an iphone and bought a windows laptop for my wife.

[RoccoR5955]

77. What does it mean if you live by yourself,

and have macs AND PCs, two of each on the network, along with Linux machine. I drive a Toyota Prius, and a Pontiac Grand Am.
I wonder...

[glinda]

78. Guilty of both.