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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOnce trump passes should he be given the honor of lying in state...
under the Capitol rotunda that his followers so desecrated on Jan. 6th?
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Yes because it's traditional. | |
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Hell no. | |
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Hell to the no. | |
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His casket can be wheeled through quickly then taken to the same plot where Ivana is buried. | |
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Let me think about it as it's too emotional an issue now. | |
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There has to something else more appropriate for such a scoundrel. | |
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Hoping he dies in prison and thus the question will be rendered moot. | |
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Johnny2X2X
(19,240 posts)But I think hes earned it. Putin will arrange it.
brush
(53,957 posts)JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)elleng
(131,273 posts)303squadron
(552 posts)Lying in every state he's been in.
brush
(53,957 posts)kelly1mm
(4,735 posts)office of President.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_Richard_Nixon
But there should not be anything resembling a State Funeral for anyone twice impeached, much less a god damned criminal like Trumpy.
Fuck that asshole sideways to the 7th level of hell.
kelly1mm
(4,735 posts)presidents then if President Trump wants to lay in state he should as the honor goes to the office, not the office holder.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)My opinion means nothing in the end, but if I have any say at all, his chances of laying in state at the US Capital should be exactly as high as an Aircraft Carrier being named after him.
Meaning:
None. Diddly. Squat. Zilch. Nada. Bugger all.
There will NEVER be a U.S.S. Donald Trumpy, of that I can assure you, just as there will never be a USS Nixon.
And they shouldn't allow his stinking corpse to foul the same rotunda where at his own direction, his followers swarmed and tried to overturn an election.
kelly1mm
(4,735 posts)president Trump should have that option as well. We may not like President Regan but he got to lay in state. President Clinton was impeached and he will presumably have the option to lay in state. Under what basis other than 'I don't like him' should President Trump be barred?
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)How about the fact that he's a fucking criminal?
Look, I get your point. It's an honor given to dead presidents and other celebrated figures and you think EVERY president deserves it.
I disagree. No president twice impeached and disgraced should be given the honor. We shall see if the estate of Bill Clinton insists he lie in state in the rotunda, but any perceived crimes Clinton committed pale in comparison to what Trumpy has done and will continue to do.
As far as your point about Clinton goes, his impeachment boiled down to him lying about an extramarital affair and had nothing to do with him trying to coerce a foreign government for his own benefit, nor did he foment a coup d'etat. Clinton's impeachment was brought on because the Republicans (read :Newt Gingrich) were still so terribly butthurt about Nixon being forced out of office and losing Robert Bork's SCOTUS seat (fact) that they felt they had to get back at the Democrats in some way. It's apples and oranges.
kelly1mm
(4,735 posts)i do think that if the rule is that every ex President has the option of electing to lay in state than both President Clinton and President Trump have that option.
I just did some research and found this:
:No law, written rule, or regulation specifies who may lie in state; use of the U.S. Capitol Rotunda is controlled by concurrent action of the House and Senate. Any person who has rendered distinguished service to the nation may lie in state if the family so wishes and Congress approves."
https://www.aoc.gov/what-we-do/programs-ceremonies/lying-in-state-honor
Walleye
(31,111 posts)Also a DJ, and an open bar. Maybe even a band.
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(53,957 posts)erronis
(15,403 posts)Sorry to have the Capitol maintenance crew clean up after all the golden streams.
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(53,957 posts)Walleye
(31,111 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)to him.
tulipsandroses
(5,131 posts)He will lie in a State Fair and they will charge money for MAGATS to see him. 💰.
I think he would appreciate that more than a bunch of politicians pretending they are sorry hes gone
erronis
(15,403 posts)are feasting off his bloated body.
Guessing all those fair-weather magats will forget they even knew tfg.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Trump won't mind either way. Would be very ironic if his casket was in the Capitol rotunda. even more ironic if the only people paying respects wore camo and bullet-proof vests, red MAGA hats.
I don't really care what happens to his corpse. Any significance seen in his lying in state at the capitol exists only in the minds of those labeling the event with their own subjectivity.
Throck
(2,520 posts)cbabe
(3,552 posts)Why photos of Osama bin Laden's corpse are still secret?
Osama bin Laden's body was buried at sea soon after his death for a number of reasons. There are suggestions that no country was willing to take his remains, that the US wanted to ensure that his burial place wouldn't become a shrine for his followers and that they wanted it done as soon as possible.
Ocelot II
(115,926 posts)that he's fucking dead.
I think all presidents are entitled to a state funeral and all the ceremonies that go with it, but it's "largely determined by a president and their family, usually before the occupation of the office." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funerals_in_the_United_States If they use the National Cathedral they'll have to have the place reconsecrated, if God doesn't smite the casket on its way in. I sort of expect they'll book a megachurch or a big sports stadium so he'll have a bigger funeral than any previous president.
a kennedy
(29,744 posts)Meadowoak
(5,568 posts)I would pay big bucks just to see him dead. I'm sure millions of people would too.
BigmanPigman
(51,648 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 21, 2022, 10:16 PM - Edit history (1)
Meadowoak
(5,568 posts)brush
(53,957 posts)Meadowoak
(5,568 posts)IcyPeas
(21,928 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,648 posts)His ex wife Ivana, not daughter Ivanka. However, he probably lusts after Ivanka like a husband would.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/31/donald-ivana-trump-cemetery-golf-course-taxes
IcyPeas
(21,928 posts)Gold
It's a great slip considering trump
BigmanPigman
(51,648 posts)I didn't notice that. I got a. Ew tablet and I have to rewrite everything three times es or it looks like this which is uncorrected by me manually. It's VERY frustrating and time consuming.
genxlib
(5,546 posts)If he is willing to take us up on the offer sometime in the next month then I am all for it.
brush
(53,957 posts)Marcus IM
(2,263 posts)brush
(53,957 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,185 posts)brush
(53,957 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,185 posts)FakeNoose
(32,843 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I was young at the time and I dont remember that big of a formal funeral.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)Nixon did not lie in state at the US Capitol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_Richard_Nixon
Sky Jewels
(7,185 posts)He might as well do ONE good thing in his life (well, death) by feeding hungry sea creatures.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)We all know how controversial it would be anyhow, but he probably thinks not doing it would be a big middle finger to the establishment.
dweller
(23,686 posts)Im going to be partying for an extended period of time
not gonna worry about his bloated corpse pomp and circumstance
It will be like
✌🏻
Samrob
(4,298 posts)Hell no!
kacekwl
(7,024 posts)his pockets, urinate on him and smear feces on him. I'm 1st in line.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,128 posts)I doubt Trump will either. He'll probably leave some Truth Social message with his last wishes about the Rotunda being a shithole...
brush
(53,957 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)I doubt the Capital police would allow a large group of Trumps supporters back inside. No way will the Secret Service allow their charges to be exposed to that much potential risk as well since those funerals are usually attended by past and present presidents and the chain of command.
He SHOULD have a state funeral as an ex-President but I can see it being very truncated to a select few and without allowing in any mobs
SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)and he can lie in state at the Four Seasons (Lawn Care parking lot).
brush
(53,957 posts)GP6971
(31,235 posts)of benefits and traditions.
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)I guess that would be animal abuse though.
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(53,957 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,346 posts)I'll be too drunk on champaign to notice.
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(53,957 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Higherarky
(637 posts)and the sooner, the better!!!
⚰️🚽
lpbk2713
(42,770 posts)And leave him at the curb at Mar-a-Loogie.
brush
(53,957 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(2,678 posts)Cause if that happened I would be laughing so hard I would wet my pants.
LudwigPastorius
(9,214 posts)so that those interested may poke the body with a stick to make sure he's really dead.
As for me, I won't believe Trump is dead until...