You thought Papa John's was bad... have you heard what Jimmy John's founder said?

[Oreo]

Jimmy John Liautaud from an interview with Fox Business on 10/15:

CAVUTO: So, like Darden, you heard what they're doing. They're going to cut down on those hours, workers, so they're not hooked into that overtime dilemma or the health care automatic provide...

LIAUTAUD: Exactly.

CAVUTO: Are you going to do the same thing?

LIAUTAUD: We have to do the same thing.

CAVUTO: Really?

LIAUTAUD: Yes. We're not doing it now, but we have to bring them down to 28 hours. Yes, we have to do that. There's no other way we can survive it, because we think it will cost us 50 cents a sandwich. That';s just the actual cost.

CAVUTO: Really?

LIAUTAUD: Yes, we do.

CAVUTO: What about just paying the penalty?

A lot of your competitors say, you know, down the road, Neil, we could see paying the penalty and sucking it up.

LIAUTAUD: Well, if you have 40 or 50 employees at a restaurant, and the penalty is $2,000, and you're going to pay $80,000 or $100,000 penalty, there goes the profit in your restaurant.

So it's very expensive to just pay the penalty as well. And I think we have to manage around it.

I think Jimmy John's went under the radar with this and it needs to be spread far and wide.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/2012/10/16/jimmy-johns-founder-business-owners-unsure-future#ixzz2BlPZx1gy

[Sekhmets Daughter]

1. Democrats will soon be eating more healthily if they

boycott all of these asshole owned outfits.

[Eleanors38]

27. You got that right. I've boycotted McDonald's for over 40 yrs., added Dominoes...

over 20 years ago, Coors, now Papa's John, and Jimmy's John.

If these crotch-husslers want to do their politickin' in public, then they should expect a public reaction: Boycotts.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

29. I'm not a beer drinker, would never eat any

of the imitation pizza that comes from the chains and had to Google Jimmy's Johns is....

[Eleanors38]

32. I stick with local stuff, including beer and...

[Sekhmets Daughter]

34. I do too, except for the beer...Tennessee is as local as I can get for beverage

Fortunately here in south FL we have a lot of good pizzerias.

[Eleanors38]

35. What? You mean they no longer make this in Miami?....

They sold this in the late 50s and later, I guess.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

36. I wouldn't know...

I had said in an earlier post that I'm not a beer drinker. Sorry.

[Erose999]

43. *ahem* Lots of great beer in GA.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

44. I am so sorry...

I said in an earlier post I don't drink beer....I thought everyone would get the reference to Tennessee as good old Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey...Gentleman Jack in fact.

[jollyreaper2112]

2. They use hellmans on their sandwitches

The savages! I always knew there was something untrustworthy about them.

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

3. About Jimmy John's

They don't even serve hot sandwiches in that disgusting place, so...yea, I think the people who love to eat there are probably just as evil as the founder is.

[Initech]

4. You can't spell "douchebag" without CEO.

[HockeyMom]

5. Is the public stupid enough to believe that fast food chains

haven't been hiring part-timers for DECADES so they don't have to pay benefits?????

Tell me another one. I worked in McD's almost 20 years ago and they only hired part-time except for the store manager. Waitresses full time with benefits????? They don't even make minimum wage because of tips. lol

[TwilightGardener]

11. Exactly. I worked in fast food--only full timers with benefits

were usually managers/assistant managers. Pretty much everyone else was part time.

[Eleanors38]

24. I HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE! (it is temporary. and part-time)

[HockeyMom]

28. Yep

Plus it is not just low wage earners either. Look at IT. First, they went to "Independent Contractors" with no Benefits, and then they went OFFSHORE with both LOW WAGES and NO BENEFITS.

Bottom line is GREED.

[Eleanors38]

33. Indycons are also known to screw with wages, legally "disappear," and the people...

who hire the Indycons say: "It's not our problem."

I like the election results, but I am under no illusion. We now live in a corporate state.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

30. Domino's Pizza give health care benefits to their part-time employees....

[gollygee]

45. I know! This is what bugs me with all this!

They hire part timers to avoid benefits, and they have ALWAYS hired part timers to avoid benefits. There is nothing new here.

[deutsey]

6. Can't say I've ever heard of Jimmy John's, let alone been to one

I'll be sure to stay away if I ever do see one.

[rurallib]

8. They made big news in the midwest with tainted food last year

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/jimmy-johns-e-coli_n_1281448.html

also put down a attempt to unionize in Minneapolis last spring
http://www.occupymn.org/2012/04/minneapolis-jimmy-johns-union-strikes-against-mike-rob-mulligan/

I have never nor will I ever eat at Jimmy Johns

[deutsey]

19. Yummy

[oberle]

22. yuck

I ate there once and got food poisoning. Never again.

[MineralMan]

9. It's a chain of sub shops.

Sub-standard subs, actually. Had one once. Haven't been back. Very disappointing.

There's a traditional Italian deli not far from me. They make great subs.

[Barack_America]

7. All this for 50 cents a freaking sandwich.

I'd love to know what their profit margin is per sandwich. Far greater than 50 cents, I'd imagine.

[Scuba]

10. Two John's, no waiting.

[HughBeaumont]

12. Jimmy John's = most overrated sub shop ever.

This place welches on quality and portion size and overcharges for cold sammiches that I can make at home. It's all retro-feel-good marketing, nothing more. An average local deli bests this crap.

[oswaldactedalone]

13. Highly overrated

subs. I'd heard lots of good things about it so tried it. I'm thinking what the heck is so good about these sandwiches. No use for them since and definitely no use going forward.

[Neoma]

14. This is the same place that put up an anti-hippy sign.

After I saw that, I haven't gone since.

[BlueMan Votes]

15. the more businesses (and states) that pull this shit about the ACA...

the sooner we'll get to single-payer.

let them bitch and moan all they want.

[Dubster]

16. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

[one_voice]

17. Never heard of Jimmy Johns...

off to google them.

[pa28]

18. Do sandwich shops normally have 50 employees?

He's lying.

[mwooldri]

21. A single sandwich shop, unlikely.

A franchisee who has a number of shops, now that is likely.

[mwooldri]

20. Jimmy Johns. Their slogan "freaky fast delivery" - eurgh.

One of their freaky fast delivery moments involved their delivery driver running a red light. Into me. Had I pursued it and had I really got hurt ... that one bad crash could have removed the profit from their restaurant... let alone healthcare law changes.

As for the penalty - who knows exactly what the penalty may be? Who knows if it might be cheaper for the Papa John CEOs or the Jimmy John CEOs to do something radically different other than chopping hours down.

[jmowreader]

23. How do they figure the employee count for a franchised operation?

Jimmy John's, like...oh, pretty much every fast food chain...is a franchisor. To put it as crudely as I can, a franchisee rents the name of the business from the national office. They then get the privilege of using the trade dress and recipes prepared by the national office. The advantage to the franchisee is simple: it cuts down risk tremendously because you don't have to establish yourself; the national office has already taken care of that for you.

Given that Jimmy John's is more of a loose collection of independent businessmen than it is a huge monolithic company, does the government add up every employee in every franchisee's operation and claim the franchisor employs them all for purposes of calculating ACA employee headcount, or (as is almost certain) does ABC's one store with 30 employees count separately from DEF's 75? And what happened to the concept that you raise prices to cover expenses like everyone else is going to have to do? Jimmy John's isn't a cheap place to eat and I don't think 50 cents per sandwich is going to drive all its business to Subway.

[Cha]

25. What's a "jimmyjohn's"? I figure I'm lucky I

I don't know.

[RagAss]

26. Turds served hot or cold....I wouldn't eat that shit during a famine.

[Ken Burch]

31. I'm going to start a thread where people can list corporations and chain operations

that are going to behave like this, so that progressive consumers can take their money elsewhere.

[Egalitarian Thug]

38. Here's Darden's list to start you off.

Red Lobster
Olive Garden
LongHorn Steakhouse
Bahama Breeze
Seasons 52
The Capital Grille
Eddie V's
Yard House

[Egalitarian Thug]

37. They popped up here recently, you just saved me the $ of trying them.

I find it is just generally a good rule to avoid corporate food entirely. One of the things I loved best about Portland, OR is the ubiquitous attitude of supporting local business. So many people will drive right past half a dozen of these corporate poison dispensaries to patronize the local restaurant.

[Ganja Ninja]

39. Time to lower the threshold for full time employees to 20 hours a week.

Make these ass clowns pay.

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

40. Stopped eating there when I found out he likes to kill

big game, cats, elephants etc.

[hifiguy]

41. I used to grab a sub for lunch there fairly often.

No more. I will stick with Cousins' a small regional chain. Better subs, too, and you can get a decent cheese steak there.

[Bombero1956]

42. crying about providing health insurance for your employees

How many millions did it cost you to sponsor Kevin Harvick's Nascar Sprint Cup Chevy?