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kpete

(72,075 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 11:36 AM Nov 2023

Kissinger is Dead, Finally Something Good Has Happened in 2023

One of the most vile individuals to ever befoul the United States, Henry Kissinger is dead. A man responsible for the deaths of millions of people around the world and yet the most respected man within the American foreign policy community for decades, Kissinger’s sheer existence exposed the moral vacuity of Cold War foreign policy and the empty platitudes and chummy gladhandling of the Beltway elite class that deserves our utter contempt.
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When Richard Nixon became the Republican nominee in 1968, Kissinger immediately made a close connection with him. In fact, they had a lovely thing to bond over: committing treason in defense of Nixon’s presidential ambitions. After Lyndon Johnson decided not to run for reelection, he hoped to end the Vietnam War. Nixon feared doing this would undermine his chances to win that fall, especially after LBJ announced the moratorium on bombing Hanoi. Luckily for Nixon, Kissinger agreed. Kissinger was serving Johnson as his advisor on the Vietnam peace talks. He let Nixon know that a peace treaty was imminent. This allowed Nixon to use his own connections in the Thieu government in Saigon to tell them he would recommit the U.S. to the war and thus they should refuse to agree to peace. This worked. Thieu boycotted the peace talks and nothing happened. Saving millions of Vietnamese lives and tens thousands of American lives had little meaning compared to the noble goal of getting Nixon elected to the presidency. Nixon repaid him by naming him National Security Advisor. Between 1968 and Kissinger’a “peace at hand” statements shortly before the 1972 elections, 20,000 American soldiers died. Thanks Hank and Dick.

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..............The man was an absolute monster. Kissinger was the architect of Nixon’s policy of bombing Cambodia and the 1970 invasion that led to the biggest protests against the war and the shootings at Kent State and Jackson State University. The bombings of Cambodia killed up to 150,000 people between 1969 and 1973 and destabilized that already struggling nation, helping to usher in the Khmer Rouge, while also not doing anything at all to win the war in Vietnam that we should not have been fighting in to begin with. Kissinger told his assistant Al Haig that Nixon “wants a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. He doesn’t want to hear anything. It’s an order, it’s to be done. Anything that flies on anything that moves.” And Kissinger and Haig made sure that happened. Kissinger then went on to be supportive of the Khmer Rouge! He saw Pol Pot as a counterweight against the real enemy: North Vietnam. He asked Thailand’s foreign minister to tell the Khmer Rouge, “we will be friends with them. They are murderous thugs, but we won’t let that stand in our way. We are prepared to improve relations with them.” Luckily, the Vietnamese themselves finally put an end to the genocide in Cambodia, with no thanks to Henry Kissinger or the United States.

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Kissinger committed massive crimes against humanity, even if you only consider his actions in Chile. First, Kissinger neither knew anything about Latin America nor cared. He thought the region utterly irrelevant. He once rejected the offer of a childhood friend who became an official at the Inter-American Development Bank to provide information about the region by responding, “If I need any information on Latin America, I’ll look it up in the Almanac.” He later stated, “Nothing important can come from the South. The axis of history starts in Moscow, goes to Bonn, crosses over to Washington, and then goes to Tokyo. What happens in the South is of no importance.”

More crimes:
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/11/kissinger-is-dead-finally-something-good-has-happened-in-2023

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Kissinger is Dead, Finally Something Good Has Happened in 2023 (Original Post) kpete Nov 2023 OP
Only the good die young get the red out Nov 2023 #1
Vlad, and Donald next please. Meadowoak Nov 2023 #2
Good riddance and shame on those lauding him redqueen Nov 2023 #3
from al franken: orleans Nov 2023 #20
His death, 40 years past his relevance, is a non-event. NCIndie Nov 2023 #4
40 years past his relevance TO YOU redqueen Nov 2023 #7
Far be it from me to deprive you of your joy on this occasion. NCIndie Nov 2023 #8
I should be feeling joy redqueen Nov 2023 #9
The Cycle of Mass Death and Destruction, Underwritten by U.S. Taxpayers, Continues Apace PTL_Mancuso Nov 2023 #16
+1, and it is incorrect to claim, as some have, that he was no longer relevant, as he was advising world leaders Celerity Nov 2023 #17
How is looking at his life honestly evil? dflprincess Nov 2023 #12
"Honestly"? You cannot be serious. NCIndie Nov 2023 #19
And just like that, Hell has a new Ambassador JCMach1 Nov 2023 #5
Agree republianmushroom Nov 2023 #6
To quote Clarence Darrow: Nac Mac Feegle Nov 2023 #10
Piece of Shit killed democracy in Chile. (and Pablo Neruda) Captain Zero Nov 2023 #11
Thought it felt warmer than usual today.... Evolve Dammit Nov 2023 #13
It doesn't make up for Tom Petty or Jeff Beck, but it's something. JohnnyRingo Nov 2023 #14
Bout damned time! Lunabell Nov 2023 #15
To paraphrase Bette Davis: VGNonly Nov 2023 #18

redqueen

(115,112 posts)
3. Good riddance and shame on those lauding him
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 11:51 AM
Nov 2023

This POS was responsible for millions of deaths

*PTUI*

orleans

(34,129 posts)
20. from al franken:
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 03:22 PM
Nov 2023

Kissinger called SNL once late on a Friday night looking for tix for his son. The Stones were playing that week. I told him that if it hadn’t been for the Xmas bombing, he’d have the tickets.





NCIndie

(556 posts)
4. His death, 40 years past his relevance, is a non-event.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 12:08 PM
Nov 2023

Celebrating his death is pointless and borderline evil.

redqueen

(115,112 posts)
7. 40 years past his relevance TO YOU
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:10 PM
Nov 2023

He killed MILLIONS. Those people had families and loved ones and I celebrate with all of them

redqueen

(115,112 posts)
9. I should be feeling joy
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:15 PM
Nov 2023

Instead I am incensed seeing heads of state whitewashing all his murderous deeds

 

PTL_Mancuso

(276 posts)
16. The Cycle of Mass Death and Destruction, Underwritten by U.S. Taxpayers, Continues Apace
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 02:33 PM
Nov 2023

High muckety-mucks soft-pedaling Henry the K's penchant for Industrial Strength Mass Murder is completely SICK.

This is truly why we can't have nice things.

Celerity

(43,933 posts)
17. +1, and it is incorrect to claim, as some have, that he was no longer relevant, as he was advising world leaders
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 02:34 PM
Nov 2023

right up until his death, including President Biden.

Henry Kissinger was so revered in China that Xi Jinping personally called him an 'old friend' while snubbing Biden officials

https://www.businessinsider.com/henry-kissinger-xi-jinping-old-friend-chinese-people-snub-biden-2023-11


Chinese President Xi Jinping, right, talks to former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger during a meeting at the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse in Beijing, Thursday, July 20, 2023


When the 100-year-old Henry Kissinger arrived in Beijing in July, it was at the tail-end of an intense, three-month diplomatic drive by the Biden administration to smoothen relations with China.

Kissinger, who died on Wednesday, was not one of the officials sent by Washington that summer and instead showed up as a private citizen, the State Department said.

But it was Kissinger who was warmly received by China's Xi Jinping and his right-hand men in diplomacy, while top-level US officials came and went without a face-to-face meeting with the paramount leader.

"The Chinese people never forget their old friends, and Sino-US relations will always be linked with the name of Henry Kissinger," Xi said.

dflprincess

(28,101 posts)
12. How is looking at his life honestly evil?
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 02:03 PM
Nov 2023

Kissinger was a war criminal pretending his death absolves him of all the harm he did is rewriting history. Covering it up is an insult to those who suffered and those who continue to suffer as a result of his actions.

NCIndie

(556 posts)
19. "Honestly"? You cannot be serious.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 02:50 PM
Nov 2023

"Honestly" was the wrong word:

1) The title of this thread is not honest -- it may be an honest opinion but it most certainly is not "looking at his life"
2) "Kissinger was a war criminal" -- your honest opinion but not based on fact. Such labels require a legal conviction of some sort, not just your "honest" assessment.
3) "pretending his death absolves him of all the harm he did is rewriting history" What? Who was doing that?
4) "Covering it up". See number 3.

Nac Mac Feegle

(972 posts)
10. To quote Clarence Darrow:
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:17 PM
Nov 2023

"I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction."

VGNonly

(7,537 posts)
18. To paraphrase Bette Davis:
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 02:37 PM
Nov 2023

You should never speak badly of the dead. Henry Kissinger is dead...Good!

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