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Botany

(70,504 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:18 AM Nov 2012

Nate Silver, Election Predictor at FiveThirtyEight, Comes Out As Gay

http://www.latinospost.com/articles/7078/20121119/nate-silver-election-predictor-fivethirtyeight-comes-out.htm


Election prediction guru Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight credits his interest in math and numbers with being an outsider when he was young-nerdy, agnostic and gay.

Silver is obviously an intelligent number-cruncher with a head for stats, poker and baseball, but he's also been "out" for years.

But this is the first time he's explicitly acknowledged his sexual orientation. He did so in an interview with The Guardian, saying, "I've always felt like something of an outsider. I've always had friends, but I've always come from an outside point of view. I think that's important. If you grow up gay, or in a household that's agnostic, when most people are religious, then from the get-go, you are saying that there are things that the majority of society believes that I don't believe."

snip

(and rich too)

For now, he can bask in the warmth of his $700,000 book deal and the knowledge that he was very, very right.
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Nate Silver, Election Predictor at FiveThirtyEight, Comes Out As Gay (Original Post) Botany Nov 2012 OP
du rec. nt xchrom Nov 2012 #1
As if ann--- Nov 2012 #2
I didn't Botany Nov 2012 #4
That's the important thing x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #55
I didn't BainsBane Nov 2012 #15
Well, people on the right certainly made enough snide innuendos before the election. 6000eliot Nov 2012 #3
This has absolutely no bearing on the validity of his work Liberal Gramma Nov 2012 #5
Forgive me, but this is important or has any relevence at all because . . . ? Richard D Nov 2012 #6
... gcomeau Nov 2012 #8
Math is gay! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #10
It isn't and shouldn't Major Nikon Nov 2012 #29
Every public figure that comes out has an effect on the general public and it's views Marrah_G Nov 2012 #32
because its another reason to love him roguevalley Nov 2012 #40
$700,000? Cracklin Charlie Nov 2012 #7
Actually that's not that great of a book deal WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #9
I'll agree with you about that. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2012 #18
he's been out for years InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #11
According to my own internal polling.... I had it at 85.1% trailmonkee Nov 2012 #12
I'm reading his book now Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #13
Who cares? It's his business, not mine. Scuba Nov 2012 #14
You clicked on the thread. MineralMan Nov 2012 #22
To post my "who cares" reply, of course. Making a point that it's not an issue. Scuba Nov 2012 #23
Amusing. MineralMan Nov 2012 #24
Occasionally, but often I'm just tedious. Scuba Nov 2012 #25
He probably had to do that to fend off geek loving women.... yellowcanine Nov 2012 #16
Silver gay and Chris Hayes married BainsBane Nov 2012 #20
LOL! Jennicut Nov 2012 #26
I have been called a geek sometimes and I am not gay. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #27
Do you wear glasses? BainsBane Nov 2012 #45
Since third grade. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #57
Math and numbers are gay now? former9thward Nov 2012 #17
Why so nasty? BainsBane Nov 2012 #19
If you read the article is was not "coming out". former9thward Nov 2012 #30
So you have a problem with his mentioning it BainsBane Nov 2012 #44
If they credit sucess to being hetrosexual I think that is pretty silly. former9thward Nov 2012 #46
You need to reread the article BainsBane Nov 2012 #47
that isn't what he said dsc Nov 2012 #53
Hmm...why the rancor, there? MineralMan Nov 2012 #21
He can run a full page ad in the NYT saying he is gay. former9thward Nov 2012 #28
He Does NOT Attribute His Being Good at Math to Being Gay - What A Stretch You Made on Indykatie Nov 2012 #31
He didn't say that, Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #36
Another great post by you. former9thward Nov 2012 #37
Awesome! Which other ones are your favorites? Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #39
The ones where your word count matches your IQ. former9thward Nov 2012 #41
Judging by that Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #50
sometimes it is just not worth the effort Botany Nov 2012 #35
And sometimes you just don't have it. former9thward Nov 2012 #38
Same to you! Hug the people you love tomorrow! MineralMan Nov 2012 #49
whatever Botany Nov 2012 #34
what a disgusting post..... chillfactor Nov 2012 #56
That Book Deal No Doubt Would Have Brought Bigger $$$ Had He Signed for It This Year Indykatie Nov 2012 #33
Speaking only for myself, I'm delighted to hear it. Rowdyboy Nov 2012 #42
^ agree 100% n/t upi402 Nov 2012 #43
I'm trying to understand the relevance of this. vaberella Nov 2012 #48
The thing is that he has established himself as an accurate pollster MineralMan Nov 2012 #51
It helps people see what? vaberella Nov 2012 #52
Totally obvious but good for him! budkin Nov 2012 #54
the reason we have progressed as far as we have, and as quickly as we have ldf Nov 2012 #58
Chance of Glenn Beck's book outselling Nate's book: 0.0000000023% Kennah Nov 2012 #59
Okay, cool. Rock on, Little Brother. nolabear Nov 2012 #60

Botany

(70,504 posts)
4. I didn't
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:31 AM
Nov 2012

Botany =

BTW As a straight man i reallyt don't care except for thew idea that Freeper heads
are now S'ploding.

 

x2 vancouverite

(89 posts)
55. That's the important thing
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:23 PM
Nov 2012

I don't care if Silver has sex with thermometers: He destroyed the wingnuts with math, which is, after all, the only honest science!

Liberal Gramma

(1,471 posts)
5. This has absolutely no bearing on the validity of his work
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:56 AM
Nov 2012

Why would his orientation matter? Unless he might be a role model for young gays reluctant to come out of the closet.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
29. It isn't and shouldn't
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:06 PM
Nov 2012

But it is for many, if not most. That's just the reality in which we live. If I were god people wouldn't feel obligated to declare or not declare their sexual orientation to the world.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
32. Every public figure that comes out has an effect on the general public and it's views
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:24 PM
Nov 2012

Also every GBLT person who has been highly successful in whatever field they are in stands as a monument to the younger generations still struggling.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
9. Actually that's not that great of a book deal
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:18 PM
Nov 2012

Considering what he did this year, the advance should have STARTED at a million.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
18. I'll agree with you about that.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:54 PM
Nov 2012

But how many statisticians command a $700,000 advance for a book about statistics? I would guess not too many.

I think Nate is grate!

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
16. He probably had to do that to fend off geek loving women....
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:19 PM
Nov 2012

The geek factor can be a real chick magnet.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
19. Why so nasty?
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:43 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:59 PM - Edit history (1)

He didn't say math and numbers are gay. I don't see what your problem is with people coming out, and some of us are interested in knowing more about him.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
30. If you read the article is was not "coming out".
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:10 PM
Nov 2012

He has been out for years. I do have a problem with people who think others care abut their sexual identity. Other than some friends and family no one does. Yes there are the exception for 'celebrities' but Silver is not a celebrity in any sense. He did say that he was good at math and numbers because he was gay. Reread it.

BTW I posting defenses of Silver when some DUers were calling him a "corporate whore" and "just another liar" when his numbers were not what they wanted to hear.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
44. So you have a problem with his mentioning it
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:58 PM
Nov 2012

In the context of a question asked. Do you become similarly angry when men mention their wives?

dsc

(52,162 posts)
53. that isn't what he said
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:58 PM
Nov 2012

what he said is that being gay and being good at math combined to make him understand an outsider's prespective.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
21. Hmm...why the rancor, there?
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

Why should he not tell people he's gay? Why would anyone feel any differently about him either way?

I'm truly puzzled by your statement.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
28. He can run a full page ad in the NYT saying he is gay.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:00 PM
Nov 2012

Who cares? Do you and if so why? He attributes his being good at math to being gay. What nonsense. Do you think math is some exclusive territory for people who are gay?

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
31. He Does NOT Attribute His Being Good at Math to Being Gay - What A Stretch You Made on
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:21 PM
Nov 2012

getting that from his comment.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
50. Judging by that
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:35 PM
Nov 2012

dumb shit you wrote. I wouldn't be bragging about IQs if I were you. Only a total moron or a troll could've interpreted the OP article that way. Seems like you wasted a lot of words to write something a freeper would be proud of. But hey if in your world that's some kind of sign of intelligence. More power to you. See? I'm capable of writing more words and guess what. You're still a douchebag.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
42. Speaking only for myself, I'm delighted to hear it.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:42 PM
Nov 2012

He's smart, professional and an excellent role-model. More power to him.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
48. I'm trying to understand the relevance of this.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:03 PM
Nov 2012

If he's been out for years---then what's the big deal. And even if he came out yesterday---what is the big deal? Is it his feeling of being out of the norm as the ultimate theme to take away? But the title of the post---suggests the important aspect is his homosexuality which seems irrelevant to me.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
51. The thing is that he has established himself as an accurate pollster
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:36 PM
Nov 2012

and is in the news. Even though he's already out, announcing that now is a very good thing. It helps people see.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
52. It helps people see what?
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:39 PM
Nov 2012

I'm just a bit confused. Many homosexuals are extremely well educated, knowledgeable, and successful in our world. Anderson Cooper comes to mind. I don't understand his homosexuality defines per say. I'm confused. Further more, I don't know what sexuality has to do with pollster accuracy.

ldf

(2,964 posts)
58. the reason we have progressed as far as we have, and as quickly as we have
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:18 AM
Nov 2012

is because gay people have, in many instances, put everything on the line and come out to their family, friends, co-workers.

when people realize that they now know and respect people who happen to be gay, it becomes personal for THEM. that means it, tangentially, affects THEIR lives.

when it affects their lives, the have to rethink their whole stance.

that is how we win.

come out! come out! wherever you are! you will be so relieved, and you will not believe the support you will get.

nate's deciding to be more vocal about being gay helps us all.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
60. Okay, cool. Rock on, Little Brother.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:34 AM
Nov 2012

Now get back to keeping mankind safe from the forces of evil speculation.

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