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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreat news that the Milwaukee prosecutors seem to have snared Walker, BUT
the state Dems would be well-advised to just keep their mouths shut about the issue and let the investigations roll along.
The prosecutors obviously know what they're doing, and are moving strategically with great deliberation and care.
The Democrats can best serve the process by staying out of it. To do otherwise risks giving the whole thing the appearance of a political witch-hunt.
When Walker gets indicted, we want it to be clear that he was brought down as a consequence of his criminal misdeeds, not because a bunch of pissed-off soreheads are taking revenge after a failed recall campaign.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)What a beautiful arrangement of words......They roll so smoothly from ones tongue.....
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Texin
(2,596 posts)Sadiedog
(353 posts)Panasonic
(2,921 posts)And the judge orders remand, no bail for Scott Walker.
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)How anyone could possibly know enough to say "When Walker gets indicted"...I am sorry but i don't get any satisfaction in wishful thinking which at this point is all this is & nothing more.
I will dance with joy "IF" Walker gets indicted but until then what is the point of acting like we already know he will.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Yeah..I don't know either......The fact remains,though,that those words."When Walker gets indicted", bring me much pleasure to see/hear/read/say....I really can't fathom how you extrapolate that I might be "acting like I already know he will",simply from my comment that those words have a nice sound.....I know,absolutely,that I said nothing of the sort,and I'm moderately certain I didn't type anything between the lines......
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)CanonRay
(14,103 posts)AFTER the indictment.
ewagner
(18,964 posts)The prosecutors laid out a case against Walker in their summation of reason for a stiff sentence...
I was particularly struck by two terms used:
1. "The Campaign Group"; and
2. "... directed by Walker..."
Those two phrases give me reason to hope that he will, in fact, be indicted.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)making plans to run in 2016? He seems to be pretty sure that won't happen...so let's not get our hopes up. I agree...best we stay completely out of it...give him lots of rope too.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)is that psychopaths don't give any consideration to potential negative consequences.
In one classic study, people were told they would get an electric shock at a specific time, and watched a clock as the moment of the shock approached. Normals showed increasing psychophysiological agitation (increased electrodermal response, heart rate accelerated, muscle tension increased, breathing became more rapid & shallow) as the moment approached. The psychopaths (as measured by Hare's original Pscyhopathy Checklist) showed none of these signs. On the second and subsequent trials, the normals escalated on all the physiological measures, and the psychopaths continued to remain calm even after previous experience had proved to them that the shock was really coming.
Numerous subsequent studies have showed that psychopaths will increase the strength of rewarded behaviors, but will not learn to inhibit punished behaviors.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)I hope he is indicted and run out of town on a rail..
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)Romney was going to win, remember?
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Too many folks are engaged in wishful thinking.
oldbanjo
(690 posts)He isn't the smartest person that I know.
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)Because as I sit here in West Virginia I do not have a clue what you are talking about. It might be all the rage in your local news but for those of us in the rest of the country a little background information would be awfully helpful.
randome
(34,845 posts)I would love to celebrate Walker's ouster.
Thank you.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)"Days after Gov. Scott Walker delivered speeches at national Republican events unveiling more of the hard-line, conservative policies he has come to be known for, a Milwaukee County prosecutor for the first time publicly connected the dots between the illegal activities of Walkers former aides and staffers and the governor himself.
Monday was the first time during the secret John Doe investigation that began in May 2010 that evidence was presented in court that showed Walker was not only privy to, but involved in, daily meetings that combined campaign efforts for his run for governor and county employees.
There are a lot of questions Scott Walker, himself, should answer, says Graeme Zielinski, a spokesman with the Wisconsin Democratic Party. We now know that he was directly involved in a criminal culture. Some of these activities are no longer speculative. They are now on the record.
The move to reveal information specific to the John Doe investigation that would lead to Walkers name being presented in court began nearly a year ago and is being cited by one former prosecutor as a calculated move to, among other things, introduce additional information to the judge and the public."
Top Walker aide Kelly Rindfleisch was sentenced yesterday to 6 months prison and 3 years probation. Prosecutors are still investigating "John Doe" and Democrats in the ledge are yammering for Walker to be named.
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Blue Owl
(50,393 posts)Do the crime, serve the time -- throw that bastid in the klink!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)And if it gets pinned on Walker!
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)CitizenPatriot
(3,783 posts)there is no action or lack of action that will stop Republicans from claiming this is a witch hunt and since democrats are usually so silent trying to be nice/civil/play fair, Republicans get to set the narrative.
They are bullies.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)and something to be lost, in that it is easier for people to dismiss the "witch hunt" story if the Dems aren't baying like hounds.