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NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:41 AM Nov 2012

Boycotting Wal-Mart? Why not K-Mart too?

I understand boycotting Wal-Mart - the reason I hear is that so the workers can spend time with their families over the holiday. I think Wal-Mart is opening late Thursday night (8pm locally where I am) and then re-opening very early on Friday.

But, if people are concerned about Wal-Mart opening late Thursday night, what about K-Mart? They're opening Thursday morning at 6am and staying open all day Thursday - Thanksgiving Day - and then opening again Friday morning at 4am. That's even worse.


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Boycotting Wal-Mart? Why not K-Mart too? (Original Post) NewJeffCT Nov 2012 OP
Rec JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #1
I also thought K-Mart had gone out of business quinnox Nov 2012 #2
they merged with Sears several years back NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #4
They kind of do RockaFowler Nov 2012 #13
8pm is a lot different than 6am NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #18
Yes. Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #28
I think K-mart has a lot less power. Jennicut Nov 2012 #3
True - they're a lot smaller than Wal-Mart NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #7
Pick your battles. earthside Nov 2012 #5
I'm sure the executives at K-Mart NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #8
If one does it, they all have to do it, for competitiveness. It's a bad trend. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #6
This is not the reason tosh Nov 2012 #9
Final goal is not a mere boycott nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #10
This obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #24
And the ones that still do, Ralph's...errr Kroegers nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #31
Holiday Hours: FarCenter Nov 2012 #11
Strategy. We're concentrating our efforts on Walmart. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #12
It has been my understanding that K-Mart treats its people fairly, or at least reasonably well 1-Old-Man Nov 2012 #14
My local Kmart Freddie Nov 2012 #32
I've been "boycotting" both for a decade or more SoCalDem Nov 2012 #15
Pretty much all the K Marts in Southern California have gone out of business. Initech Nov 2012 #16
still one in Desert Hot Springs mitchtv Nov 2012 #27
Consider it done. 99Forever Nov 2012 #17
Better still, boycott all retail businesses that employ more than 25 people. nt jody Nov 2012 #19
Walmart is the largest corporation in America..get them to change.... tokenlib Nov 2012 #20
K-Mart isn't staying open all day. They're closing early. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #21
KMart/Sears matches the difference between military pay obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #22
I think that it has more to do with labor practices than Thanksgiving Sadiedog Nov 2012 #23
But Wal-Mart really isn't much worse on labor practices. musical_soul Nov 2012 #35
Is Walgreens related to Walmart? AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #25
Don't think so Freddie Nov 2012 #33
I don't think so.... musical_soul Nov 2012 #36
Walgreens is a different company davidn3600 Nov 2012 #37
Wal Mart employees are striking in certain stores on Friday obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #26
Because as Walmart goes, so goes the industry Warpy Nov 2012 #29
It's not just about the hours. progressoid Nov 2012 #30
Exactly. musical_soul Nov 2012 #34
Kmart is just as bad if not worse than walmart in some ways Kitobyki Dec 2012 #38

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
1. Rec
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:42 AM
Nov 2012

Because I honestly wasn't aware that K-Mart was still open. I haven't seen one around me in six years . . . But if they are doing this? Not cool.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. I also thought K-Mart had gone out of business
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:43 AM
Nov 2012

They must have a small amount of stores left, I don't see their stores anywhere anymore.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
18. 8pm is a lot different than 6am
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:13 PM
Nov 2012

If they open at 8pm, you can at least spend your day with your family and then work at night. If you have to get up early to go in for a 6am opening, you're probably tired after your 6-8 hour shift.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
3. I think K-mart has a lot less power.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:51 AM
Nov 2012

My brother and sister in law used to work at one 9 years ago in Wallingford but it closed down and became a Walmart of all things. They filed for bankruptcy then merged with Sears and their sales are still not good.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. True - they're a lot smaller than Wal-Mart
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nov 2012

there are several K-Marts still in CT - Watertown, Torrington, Waterbury, Cromwell, Vernon, Milford and a few others.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
5. Pick your battles.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:53 AM
Nov 2012

I certainly support boycotting any and all retail businesses that are going to be open on Thanksgiving Day ... including Big Lots which I noticed yesterday is open tomorrow from 7AM to 9PM.

But Walmart is the biggest problem, the leader, the trendsetter -- that is where it is most effective (in my estimation) to focus attention.

Sadly, K-Mart is being destroyed by its owners and I suspect will be lucky to even be around five years from now (if not sooner). So, Walmart will have even less competition.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. I'm sure the executives at K-Mart
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

will pay themselves some nice huge bonuses before filing for bankruptcy or selling off the company.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. If one does it, they all have to do it, for competitiveness. It's a bad trend.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:53 AM
Nov 2012

I will NOT go shopping on Thanksgiving. That sucks!

There are shopaholics, though...buy buy buy. They'll be there. So sad.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
24. This
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:45 PM
Nov 2012

And, if WM can be forced to have unions, most other retailers and food service businesses will fall like dominoes.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
11. Holiday Hours:
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:40 PM
Nov 2012

November 22, 2012: 6:00 am - 4:00 pm
November 23, 2012: 5:00 am - 11:00 pm
November 24, 2012: 6:00 am - 11:00 pm
November 25, 2012: 7:00 am - 10:00 pm

For the local Kmart. Presumably they are closing at 4pm on Turkey Day, so their employees can have time to shop at Walmart and Target.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
12. Strategy. We're concentrating our efforts on Walmart.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:42 PM
Nov 2012

No, as a matter of fact, we don't have to treat all our enemies equally. It's more strategic to not do so and concentrate our firepower.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
14. It has been my understanding that K-Mart treats its people fairly, or at least reasonably well
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:49 PM
Nov 2012

I believe I read somewhere that when the company made the decision to get out of the low-cost retail trade they began to offer their long term employees training in the jobs that the company expected to require as it changed direction. It may have been misreported but that is the story that I recall.

Freddie

(9,266 posts)
32. My local Kmart
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:23 PM
Nov 2012

Seems to have the same employees all the time so they must treat people pretty decently.
We have Walmart and Kmart across the street from each other (and Target down the road) and I much prefer shopping at Kmart. Easy parking, no lines, easy in and out...it's amazing they stay in business.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
15. I've been "boycotting" both for a decade or more
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:02 PM
Nov 2012

Large, dirty stores.......aisles blocked with "stuff" have never been my cup of tea..no matter the prices.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
16. Pretty much all the K Marts in Southern California have gone out of business.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:03 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:22 PM - Edit history (1)

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
17. Consider it done.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:07 PM
Nov 2012

Since I haven't been inside of a Kmart for 2 or 3 decades and well over a decade for Wallyworld, I completely agree with you. In fact, I doubt I'll go into any store on Thursday, at all.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
20. Walmart is the largest corporation in America..get them to change....
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:36 PM
Nov 2012

...and others will follow.
If Walmart doesn't change..others who have to compete with them will not...

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
22. KMart/Sears matches the difference between military pay
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:43 PM
Nov 2012

And KMart/Sears pay for any employee called up. They also keep the positions, and give aid to the service member's family if needed.

They do a decent amount of charity stuff.

They are not the supermajority of the 20 Richest People In America. They are not a market leader, they do not dictate the market.

Except for Costco, IKEA, and Starbucks, almost all food and retail service employees in the US are treated horribly, but Wal-Mart is just the worst of the worst.

I don't think any retail places should be open on holidays, except a few pharmacies.

Sadiedog

(353 posts)
23. I think that it has more to do with labor practices than Thanksgiving
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:45 PM
Nov 2012

at least that has been my understanding. When I was a waitress I worked many a Thanksgiving and Christmas. Actually we were not very busy on Thanksgiving but I was glad to be working for a few of the regulars who had no family to spend the holiday with. It was sad for some.

musical_soul

(775 posts)
35. But Wal-Mart really isn't much worse on labor practices.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:32 PM
Nov 2012

All retailers pay low. All retailers are reluctant to hire full time. All retailers are important goods, often from areas where they should not. All retailers are sorry on the insurance subject. Heck, Sears just dropped insurance on thousands of employees.

I'd like to see a return to small businesses in retail.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
25. Is Walgreens related to Walmart?
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:48 PM
Nov 2012

I do love Walgreens out here... that "drugstore" seems to be everywhere in the city.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
37. Walgreens is a different company
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:37 PM
Nov 2012

Founded in Chicago in 1901 by Charles Walgreen, who was a pharmacist.

Funny fact many don't know is that many of the stores were involved in bootlegging back during the prohibition period. They used to stockpile alcohol and sell it under the counter.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
26. Wal Mart employees are striking in certain stores on Friday
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:48 PM
Nov 2012

I personally feel like, because of this, ALL Wal Marts Friday will have a picket line. Wal Mart are notorious union busters, and have threatened employees who strike Friday.

THIS is why they should be boycotted, especially, Thursday through Sunday (imo).

Liberals shouldn't cross picket lines.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
29. Because as Walmart goes, so goes the industry
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:51 PM
Nov 2012

They're the big bully on the block who keeps everybody else in line.

If they can't get away with shit wages and shit working conditions, no one else will. They won't be able to find enough people willing to work for them.

musical_soul

(775 posts)
34. Exactly.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:29 PM
Nov 2012

For some reason, Wal-Mart has always been targeted by the left on this stuff.

I just signed a petition a while back asking Target not to do this to their employees. Target is supposed to be the progressive alternative to Wal-Mart, but there they are.

Nearly every criticism ever made about Wal-Mart can also be made about K-Mart, Target, and other places, so I don't think it's fair that they're singled out.

Kitobyki

(1 post)
38. Kmart is just as bad if not worse than walmart in some ways
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:21 PM
Dec 2012

I think Kmart should be boycotted as well, they have had a wage freeze for serveral years now so the only way their employees get raises is if the minimum wage is raised. Walmart doesn't treat their employees well but they do at least get yearly raises. I know a overnight stock person that makes 11.00 an hour working there. I also don't think the boycott should be based on the hours they are opened for the holiday season I think they should both be boycotted for getting rich off of treating their employees so poorly.

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