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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy doesn't anyone ever mention the fact that Trump is *out on bail*?
Because he is! He's out on bail in the GA case - IIRC he posted $200K as bail. Maybe it should be brought up more often that the leading GOP candidate for president is out on bail as he campaigns.
hlthe2b
(102,723 posts)senseandsensibility
(17,353 posts)Someone on our side should. We need more attack dogs.
Ocelot II
(116,244 posts)As in, "Trump, who is currently out on bail in a felony RICO case, is again threatening to withdraw from NATO." Or, "Trump, who is currently out on bail in a felony RICO case, has a face like an old man's scrotum." Or, "Trump, who is currently out on bail in a felony RICO case, looks especially orange today."
senseandsensibility
(17,353 posts)He said the NYT should be doing that. Not always a fan of his, but that was great.
Ocelot II
(116,244 posts)while at the same time publishing opinion pieces by the likes of Maureen Dowd and Ross Douchehat about Biden being ancient and doddering.
senseandsensibility
(17,353 posts)sexual assault every time they write about him really put in perspective. They would be following journalistic standards if they did that. It wouldn't be untrue in any way and is simply factual. Instead they are writing propaganda for him.
TSExile
(2,685 posts)Because it's true!!!!
DENVERPOPS
(9,028 posts)cancelling my NYT subscription this afternoon. When asked why, I told them that I was disgusted at the "Puffery" piece, made up of total shit about Trump......period. And that the NYT had become a disgrace to any claim of professional journalism.......
niyad
(114,380 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,802 posts)elleng
(131,768 posts)WarGamer
(12,602 posts)ecstatic
(32,848 posts)He really could be a rapper right now. That'll be his next gig if all else fails. 🙄
RockRaven
(15,181 posts)to his court cases. If he were not out on bail, delay might not be his primary strategy.
senseandsensibility
(17,353 posts)I neer thought of it like that.
TwilightZone
(25,565 posts)Emphasis on "relatively", but that's probably the reason. I doubt it's an intentional omission by the media; I think it's just a bit of an afterthought compared to his claims of total immunity, the 91 indictments, ongoing trials and civil cases, an $83 million award, and a potential $400 million penalty to his org.
It is, on its own, pretty extraordinary, of course, but I think it's just getting buried by everything else. It got a lot of press when it happened, of course.
dickthegrouch
(3,205 posts)The supposed law and order party needs more bad things said about him to undermine their support. Using the phrases indicted and out on bail might sway a few % more away from him.
TwilightZone
(25,565 posts)I think nothing is going to persuade them not to support him. The support of his base has been stable since 2015. Nothing he has ever done has put a dent in that support, and referring to him as out on bail isn't going to move the needle.
If being found liable for rape and defamation, facing 91 indictments in four jurisdictions, and facing years in prison aren't enough to sway them, just saying he's out on bail on one of those cases certainly won't.
TheKentuckian
(25,038 posts)Due diligence is always prudent.
ProfessorGAC
(65,702 posts)His Base is too committed to bother with, but the large middle might be swayed by constantly reminding them that this rich bot is a criminal.
erronis
(15,639 posts)It's become pretty obviously the White Nationalist Party.
calimary
(81,753 posts)Seems like an accurate description as well as a memorable label.
Ocelot II
(116,244 posts)doesn't hurt - just emphasizes the fact that if you vote for him you might be voting for a felon. Not that most of the MAGAts care, but..
TwilightZone
(25,565 posts)My point is that just pointing he's out on bail in one trial is less effective than noting everything combined, including the fact that there are three others.
Trump, currently facing 91 criminal charges in four jurisdictions and with his organization facing $375 million in penalties...
vs.
Trump, currently out on bail...
"Out on bail" is relatively meaningless compared to the big picture.
et tu
(1,053 posts)Rhiannon12866
(208,035 posts)And when he was allowed out on bail, he resumed his attacks, so his bail was rescinded. Why is TFG being treated differently especially since his attacks are far more dangerous and well publicized??
0rganism
(24,033 posts)"Al Capone didn't get charged nearly as much. Trump's as bad at criming as he is at presidenting."
John Shaft
(357 posts)the fix is in.
This world is chock filled to the brim with sick fucks.
BaronChocula
(1,678 posts)I'll stop referring to him as Florida Rapist and start referring to him as Florida Rapist Free on Bail.
StarryNite
(9,507 posts)I think there is just so much that loser has done and is doing that we can't remember it all.
Aussie105
(5,584 posts)Probably because some of us want to stay in the good books of our deluded, crazy and on his last legs grandpa/uncle etc.
Don't want to miss out a mention in the will, seeing he said many times how filthy rich he is.
But what makes people excuse a sad sack demented and insane ex-president?
What is the possible payback there?
Why the current and ongoing blindness to who he is, the continual sucking up?
Boggles the mind! Mine is severely boggled, has been for a few years now.
(Three hearts? Wow! Thanks! Bless you in your Voyage through Life!)
brooklynite
(95,330 posts)Answer: because it was in the news when it happened. How many times is bail status repeated for any criminal defendant?
ecstatic
(32,848 posts)With trump, it doesn't hurt to repeatedly remind people of his criminal status. This is not normal.
SalamanderSleeps
(609 posts)spanone
(136,051 posts)Silent Type
(3,197 posts)cad, disgusting POS, and worse.
Journalists would take up the entire show, but guess they could alternate terms each time they mention his name rapist trump, fraudster trump, indicted trump, liar trump, etc., and the MFer is out on bail and white wingers still love him.
onenote
(42,977 posts)Ocelot II
(116,244 posts)it's super weird to have a former president who is running again and is the likely candidate of one of the two major parties who is out on bail, having been charged with multiple felonies. Everybody knows being out of jail pending trial doesn't mean guilt in any case, but when have we ever have a presidential candidate who was in such deep legal shit that he had to put up $200K in bail money in order to go out and hold campaign rallies?
Bluethroughu
(5,222 posts)Unauthorized people would have been breaking the law, a term of his bond. Threatening Judges, witnesses, or jury members would be another count, to be sent to jail until trial.
Liberal In Texas
(13,664 posts)"...who is out on bail..."
llashram
(6,265 posts)the cretin ex-potus, sexual predator, conman, traitor, extremely disrespectful of the military veteran and current and past. Veteran haters and very disrespectful of same. Remember the Normandy Beach observance the traitor dissed because it was raining.
dlk
(11,656 posts)We are dealing with such a double standard in the news media. Its truly awful.
MorbidButterflyTat
(1,927 posts)Ocelot II
(116,244 posts)sop
(10,422 posts)I'd pay to watch that episode.
Evolve Dammit
(16,934 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,612 posts)Ocelot II
(116,244 posts)doesn't think is reliable enough to be released without bail on his own recognizance. And he's a guy who, but for the ability to come up with $200K, would be sitting in a grungy jail in Atlanta, wearing an orange jumpsuit and flipflops as he waits for his trial.
louis-t
(23,325 posts)He was arrested 4 times. They let him out on his own recognizance but technically, he's out on bail. I've ranted about this several times.
Ocelot II
(116,244 posts)He'd be sitting his fat orange butt in an Atlanta jail if he hadn't made bail.
louis-t
(23,325 posts)soldierant
(7,043 posts)he only had to put up a portion of that and the bondsman put up the rest. If that's the case, if he skips out, he'd still owe the bondsman the full amount, though.
CrispyQ
(36,668 posts)I'm giving you a heart for asking something I'd totally forgotten about. Someone needs to get Trump's mugshot & make a meme.
TeamProg
(6,498 posts)FakeNoose
(33,097 posts)The only person who deserves the title is "President Joe Biden."