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Trump ranks dead last in a new rating of U.S. presidents. Biden is 14th. (Original Post) Tennessee Hillbilly Feb 2024 OP
FDR overtakes Washington for the #2 spot True Dough Feb 2024 #1
Because our media is dreadful unblock Feb 2024 #2
Exactly! PortTack Feb 2024 #23
Trump shouldn't even be that high democrank Feb 2024 #3
THIS! KPN Feb 2024 #16
More than that bdamomma Feb 2024 #21
"Dead last" sounds fine to me. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #22
And that's why the mouth breathers love him so. lpbk2713 Feb 2024 #4
They want their anti-Christ to destroy the earth and suck them up to heaven. KS Toronado Feb 2024 #8
IF there is a heaven, slightlv Feb 2024 #12
Suck it Donny you sick-ass fat fuck Blue Owl Feb 2024 #5
What is striking is that even conservatives and republicans ranked him 43rd and 41st, respectively. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2024 #6
Not just the most corrupt ThoughtCriminal Feb 2024 #7
Hopefully history angrychair Feb 2024 #9
Biden's position on Gaza is to stop the killing. yardwork Feb 2024 #11
That may be, but it's also the goal of all the other countries as well. slightlv Feb 2024 #13
I am incredibly proud of Biden's leadership in response to the dastardly terror of Hamas. tritsofme Feb 2024 #15
A distant Turbineguy Feb 2024 #10
some see it BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 2024 #14
hindsight is 20/20 et tu Feb 2024 #20
This academic finding BaronChocula Feb 2024 #17
He's 4 places below Harrison, who only served a month nuxvomica Feb 2024 #18
I'd like to see the full list, but I got a message that says "File can't be downloaded securely." ShazzieB Feb 2024 #19
The first link is a PDF that downloads to one's computer FreddyWhite Feb 2024 #24
I didn't get any warnings when I downloaded it originally. Tennessee Hillbilly Feb 2024 #25
Happy President's Day! Freddie Feb 2024 #26
Barack Obama is at 7. Bill Clinton is at 12, and Joe Biden is at 14. ffr Feb 2024 #27
BIDEN RANKED 14TH BEST PRESIDENT ALL-TIME IN NEW SURVEY LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #28
Trump 2.0 would not be an improvement bmichaelh Feb 2024 #29
Noticed even Republicans only rated TSF at 41st. sinkingfeeling Feb 2024 #30
But they'll still vote for him anyway. Tennessee Hillbilly Feb 2024 #31
Now they need to do First Ladies and watch Melania GoodRaisin Feb 2024 #32

unblock

(52,871 posts)
2. Because our media is dreadful
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 02:02 PM
Feb 2024

The blatantly right-wing portion of it obviously so, but most of the rest of it has long enabled and legitimized it by adopting their topics and language and generally giving them respect that they in no way deserve.

Imagine if the rest of the media only referred to the right-wing propaganda network portion of the media as a right-wing propaganda network. That'd be a start, anyway....

bdamomma

(64,135 posts)
21. More than that
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 04:48 PM
Feb 2024

Criminal thug, hates democracy, rapist, con man, grifter, lies, cheats and steal, loves other dictators because they kill their opposition, hates women, and the list goes on and on.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,129 posts)
7. Not just the most corrupt
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 03:57 PM
Feb 2024

It is likely that his administration had more corruption than all previous Presidents COMBINED. And considering some of the predecessors, that is an incredible accomplishment.

He is not just the worst President that we have had, he is probably (and hopefully), the worst POSSIBLE President - but the GOP seems to be able to say - you think that's bad? Hold my beer!...

angrychair

(8,864 posts)
9. Hopefully history
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 04:05 PM
Feb 2024

Will be kinder to Biden. He is arguably the most successful president in the modern era. While I think his position on Gaza may tarnish his accomplishments, it should still be better than 14th.

yardwork

(62,036 posts)
11. Biden's position on Gaza is to stop the killing.
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 04:16 PM
Feb 2024

Biden is doing everything he can to get to a peaceful solution.

slightlv

(3,111 posts)
13. That may be, but it's also the goal of all the other countries as well.
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 04:28 PM
Feb 2024

If we can get a coalition to go FIGHT a war, what is the problem with building a coalition to STOP a war?! If Bibi is the problem, then we must find a way to sideline Bibi. Hamas is an integrated, intrenched problem. I'll admit, I have no answer for that. But I was a computer person in my career... regardless of living, eating, and basically breathing politics. Someone like Biden, who's been in politics his whole life, I would expect to have a hell of a lot more ideas and more novel ideas than I could ever dream up.

My first thought would be to vet every Palestinian as to whether they've ever been an active participant in Hammas. But the problem would in the details and specifics. Hammas got smart. They ARE the government and they now and always have presented themselves as the people. And, just like the Repugs, repeat it often enough and the world believes you. But somehow separating the active participants from the common people in order to advance a 2 state solution (which I have always believed to be the only viable solution) is a task worthy of Solomon.

I just find it so freaking strange that all these players are "People of the Book." If this is what the Book turns people into, maybe you need to throw away the book! That's said out of frustration.

What Hammas did was unthinkable, and it was planned and assisted by old enemies of ours... another freaking proxy war with Russia. And another way to divide the people of the U.S. and the world. But Bibi isn't helping Israel's cause. It's pretty blatant he's all in for genocide, and for better or worse, I'm afraid we're the only ones who can stop him... but it *looks* like the opposite. Of course that's not true, but perception is at least 90%. And that's what causes heartburn with Biden. Besides voting rights law and the Courts, this is -my- heartburn with him. I still thinks he's miles above ANYONE else for the office at this time, and I don't give a crap how old he is. I'd rather have old and experienced and tempered at the helm. Of course, I could dearly wish we had a congress willing to assist him, instead of working against him. Grrrrr

tritsofme

(17,575 posts)
15. I am incredibly proud of Biden's leadership in response to the dastardly terror of Hamas.
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 04:41 PM
Feb 2024

On this issue, as with all others he has encountered, Biden has answered the call of history.

I agree he will be remembered in an even better light!

BaronChocula

(1,735 posts)
17. This academic finding
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 04:42 PM
Feb 2024

out of the University of Houston and Coastal Carolina University (not exactly bastions of East Coast elitism) is exactly why republicans are trying to get education out of our schools.

nuxvomica

(12,549 posts)
18. He's 4 places below Harrison, who only served a month
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 04:43 PM
Feb 2024

So I guess Harrison accomplished more in a month than TFG did in four years.

ShazzieB

(16,973 posts)
19. I'd like to see the full list, but I got a message that says "File can't be downloaded securely."
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 04:44 PM
Feb 2024

Tried again, and got a message saying it had already been downloaded. Only I can't find it in my downloads.

Then I tried going to the hosting site, brandonrottinghaus.com, and couldn't get past the homepage.

Maybe the site just doesn't like Android tablets...or something?

Edited to add: I finally decided take a chance and ignore the safety warning. (Hope I didn't harm my device somehow!) The list is fascinating.

TSF coming in dead last, behind both Buchanan and A. Johnson says volumes. It's not easy to be THAT bad!

FreddyWhite

(69 posts)
24. The first link is a PDF that downloads to one's computer
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 05:01 PM
Feb 2024

I didn't know this was a download. My browser alerts that this is not secure.

Just letting you know. It should be removed for security purposes.

thanks

25. I didn't get any warnings when I downloaded it originally.
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 06:24 PM
Feb 2024

That was with Firefox browser on a windows desktop. I just re-checked it on Firefox, and still no warnings. I also tried it on Chrome and Opera, and got no warnings with them as well.

Freddie

(9,326 posts)
26. Happy President's Day!
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 06:37 PM
Feb 2024

Dead last, and most deservedly so.
If you’re ever in the Lancaster PA area, the Home of the Second-Worst President is an interesting day trip.

ffr

(22,712 posts)
27. Barack Obama is at 7. Bill Clinton is at 12, and Joe Biden is at 14.
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 06:40 PM
Feb 2024

Of the last three republicans, however:
George H.W. Bush ranks the highest at 19
George W. Bush is at 32
and bringing up the rear, Donald Trump is last at 45

bmichaelh

(434 posts)
29. Trump 2.0 would not be an improvement
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 07:18 PM
Feb 2024

Trump does not have the personality to adapt to past mistakes.

Trump is incapable of any kind of self reflection.

Anybody who thinks Trump 2.0 will be an improvement is mistaken.

As someone defined insanity:

'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results'

He repeats the same behavior over and over again.

For example, this weekend, he mentioned E Jean Carroll again when he he is already been found guilty of defamation back in January 2023.

31. But they'll still vote for him anyway.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 05:53 AM
Feb 2024

The repugs don't care about things like competence, treason, honesty, moral values, etc. In their view, abortion and non-white immigration are what matter.

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