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In It to Win It

(8,299 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:04 PM Mar 7

Biden plans intel brief for Trump, despite his history with leaks

Biden plans intel brief for Trump, despite his history with leaks


U.S. intelligence officials are planning to brief Donald Trump on national security matters if he secures the GOP nomination this summer — despite concerns about his handling of classified information.

The decision would be in keeping with a tradition that dates back to 1952, but it would mark the first time an administration has volunteered to share classified information with a candidate who is facing criminal charges on charges that he mishandled classified documents.

The Biden administration intends to share intelligence with the former president no matter the outcome of his trial in Florida, according to a senior intelligence official and a second person with knowledge of internal conversations. They, like some others interviewed, were granted anonymity to discuss sensitive internal deliberations.

The sit-down is not legally required, but for the last 72 years, incumbent administrations have tapped the spy agencies to read in the candidates of both major political parties on some of the most pressing threats to the country. While often this is just one meeting, sometimes candidates receive several briefings.

The briefings, which are managed by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and approved by the White House, normally take place after the national conventions in late summer.
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Biden plans intel brief for Trump, despite his history with leaks (Original Post) In It to Win It Mar 7 OP
They can give him fake stuff and then watch MOMFUDSKI Mar 7 #1
Beat me to it. FalloutShelter Mar 7 #2
Yup, and wait and see if Pooty takes the bait Trailrider1951 Mar 7 #11
I still say to feed Trump some juicy disinformation, along with the real stuff, and wait for Trump to leak it. Freethinker65 Mar 7 #3
Great plan, see how long before Putin knows it. dem4decades Mar 7 #4
Yes, especially now with his known need for quick cash. Think. Again. Mar 7 #17
Did Trump include Biden in 2020? KPN Mar 7 #5
No and kept transition from him as well. onecaliberal Mar 7 #9
Not according to NBC News. nolabear Mar 7 #10
Thank You! Cha Mar 7 #27
I remember bdamomma Mar 7 #47
I wonder that about so many people. nolabear Mar 7 #49
Biden received intel briefings in 2020 prior to the election. onenote Mar 7 #38
Give him a Long John Silver place mat... lame54 Mar 7 #6
The briefings ... CloudWatcher Mar 7 #7
Make it so boring and tedious that he refuses to sit through any more. RockRaven Mar 7 #8
I fear that Biden is too good a guy to feed him disinformation SledDriver Mar 7 #12
What is being a good guy about not testing a known traitor? TheKentuckian Mar 7 #50
When will the Dems ever learn? Prairie Gates Mar 7 #13
Yeah I don't fucking believe this Fullduplexxx Mar 7 #15
Agreed. Very stupid decision. It may show weakness. triron Mar 7 #20
Tag that intel with colorful fake details and see where it turns up later 0rganism Mar 7 #14
This doesn't make sense and can't be legit ScratchCat Mar 7 #16
No sense whatsoever. What the fuck are they thinking? triron Mar 7 #21
Ok, so he'll be briefed on "some of the most pressing threats to the country" Talitha Mar 7 #18
Claire McCaskill was just on MSNBC senseandsensibility Mar 7 #19
Good. I often agree with her. elleng Mar 7 #29
Why the HELL WOULD BE DO THAT? That is not protecting the country !!! Dump denied giving Biden Intel updates when he GuppyGal Mar 7 #22
Yes. By all means follow a tradition that could end our country. Autumn Mar 7 #23
WHY!!!!!? Excuse me but this is Crazy Talk. Cha Mar 7 #24
I would use it like the Battle of Midway DVRacer Mar 7 #25
"AF" is short of fresh water Brother Buzz Mar 7 #26
My God just a few years ago he tried to destroy our government Emile Mar 7 #28
Biden's too much of a boy scout. CrispyQ Mar 7 #30
Absolutely ridiculous. n/t demmiblue Mar 7 #31
You can't make this shit up, as they say. spanone Mar 7 #32
Just saw Anita Dunn, Sr WH Advisor, on Nicolle: TSF has to be officially nominated first... Hekate Mar 7 #33
A huge problem with briefing him is it diminishes the Espionage charges he's facing. Nevilledog Mar 7 #35
Right! Do they have to do that by law after he's Cha Mar 7 #37
It's not a law. Completely discretionary. Nevilledog Mar 7 #43
Me too. I read TSF didn't givve Cha Mar 7 #46
NO! There absolutely is NO such law... DemocraticPatriot Mar 7 #44
Thank You! Cha Mar 7 #48
Ohh.. Mahalo for that, Hekate. Cha Mar 7 #36
Fuck that! triron Mar 7 #39
They need to pull some of the Trump briefings and follow their lead. They had to "Dick and Jane" everything brewens Mar 7 #34
His campaign message on Trump as a threat to Democracy will be undermined by this Blaukraut Mar 7 #40
+1. dalton99a Mar 7 #42
Optional. Not Required. Just Say FUCK NO. dalton99a Mar 7 #41
Would be the stupidist decision ever. He probably has sold all he has of value for which Evolve Dammit Mar 7 #45

Freethinker65

(10,083 posts)
3. I still say to feed Trump some juicy disinformation, along with the real stuff, and wait for Trump to leak it.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:10 PM
Mar 7

Trump can't keep a secret if he believes divulging it will impress someone (be it Putin, or some socialite at his club).

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)
7. The briefings ...
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:17 PM
Mar 7

The briefings should be in Russian so there's no loss in translation between the traitor and his handlers.

RockRaven

(15,051 posts)
8. Make it so boring and tedious that he refuses to sit through any more.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:19 PM
Mar 7

Very long-winded, very detailed, no pictures, lots of remedial background history and science content, no mention of any person he has ever met let alone himself.

SledDriver

(2,059 posts)
12. I fear that Biden is too good a guy to feed him disinformation
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:23 PM
Mar 7

Hopefully he'll keep it high level, "just so you're aware this is a thing" kind of info.

I fully agree though to give him a mix of real and false info and see where it leads.

I can hear TFG at one of his rallys - "I have to get intelligence briefings now. Did you know this? They have to give me intelligence briefings now because I'm so ahead in the polls. The things that are going on are just unbelievable. The people in these meetings are so happy to see me when I walk into the room. They're like 'Sir. We're so glad you're back!' And I'm like 'Yeah...". And where's Biden? Where's Biden? Is he here? Is he asleep? Oh, he's asleep over there in the corner. And the people in these meetings are asking me 'Sir. What should we do about this or that?' and I'm like.. Well, I can't say anything because I'm not the President. But I say 'Well, this is what I would do.' But I can't say that. And they're like 'Oh, thank you Sir. It's been a mess without you.'...

TheKentuckian

(25,034 posts)
50. What is being a good guy about not testing a known traitor?
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 09:45 PM
Mar 7

Congenial doesn't mean good, it means pleasant and agreeable which isn't good for America under the circumstances.

Prairie Gates

(1,081 posts)
13. When will the Dems ever learn?
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:23 PM
Mar 7

Jesus.

These are not good faith players. GIVE THEM NOTHING.

They blocked Biden's transition at every turn.

GIVE THEM NOTHING.

Fuck's sake.

0rganism

(23,978 posts)
14. Tag that intel with colorful fake details and see where it turns up later
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:27 PM
Mar 7

Walk that cat backwards, see where it steps

ScratchCat

(2,016 posts)
16. This doesn't make sense and can't be legit
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 03:35 PM
Mar 7

It would be unlawful to share classified information with a person under indictment. If this is true, I'm probably done with the entire political system of this country. There isn't any possible justification and the current administrations position should be "The GOP is just going to have to nominate someone who isn't under indictment for stealing military secrets". For the love of fark, is there any sane person left in this country?

Talitha

(6,634 posts)
18. Ok, so he'll be briefed on "some of the most pressing threats to the country"
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 05:45 PM
Mar 7

He'll hear his own name keep popping up - and I hope the pig blows a gasket.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
22. Why the HELL WOULD BE DO THAT? That is not protecting the country !!! Dump denied giving Biden Intel updates when he
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:20 PM
Mar 7

was Pres Elect

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/biden-not-getting-intelligence-reports-because-trump-officials-won-t-n1247294

Separately, the president-elect is not receiving the President's Daily Brief, the compendium of high-level intelligence reporting that goes to the most senior officials in the government. President Donald Trump could authorize that with a word, but he has not done so.

On Tuesday, Biden confirmed to reporters that he was not receiving the daily brief. “Obviously the PDB would be useful but it’s not necessary," he said. "I’m not the sitting president now.”

“Access to classified information is useful but I’m not in a position to make any decisions on these issues anyway. It would be nice to have it but it’s not critical."

DVRacer

(707 posts)
25. I would use it like the Battle of Midway
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:28 PM
Mar 7

In the regular chatter you add something only to that briefing that causes the Russian’s to do something minor. Thereby outing his dissemination of classified information to a foreign adversary.
In the lead up to the Battle of Midway we weren’t sure if the Japanese were going to attack Alaska islands or Midway. So we let slip on purpose that the desalination pumps were down and needed freshwater at Midway. The Japanese intercepted the message and sent their own coded message to their fleet to bring desalination pumps with them. Boom we knew for sure where they planned to attack.
Including something to his brief that might cause Putin to redeploy some specific hardware for no good reason should do the trick.

Hekate

(90,930 posts)
33. Just saw Anita Dunn, Sr WH Advisor, on Nicolle: TSF has to be officially nominated first...
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:43 PM
Mar 7

…so not until after the RNC has their convention.

Many things can occur between now and then.

Nevilledog

(51,241 posts)
35. A huge problem with briefing him is it diminishes the Espionage charges he's facing.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:01 PM
Mar 7

The Republicans will say it shows that Trump's not a security risk if we're willing to brief him.

Cha

(297,890 posts)
37. Right! Do they have to do that by law after he's
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:33 PM
Mar 7

the official nominee?

No one ever expected a Traitor to be a nominee.

Nevilledog

(51,241 posts)
43. It's not a law. Completely discretionary.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:59 PM
Mar 7

If Biden allows anything beyond Intel chiefs briefing him superficially on non-sensitive issues I'm gonna be upset.

Cha

(297,890 posts)
46. Me too. I read TSF didn't givve
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 08:07 PM
Mar 7

Biden intel in 2020.. they didn't recognize him as the Pres Elect.

Biden not getting intelligence reports because Trump officials won't recognize him as president-elect

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1247294

Mahalo!!

Cha

(297,890 posts)
36. Ohh.. Mahalo for that, Hekate.
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 07:30 PM
Mar 7

I guess they have to by law? Even though, TSF wouldn't give it to Biden in 2020.

They didn't recognize him as the Pres Elect.

Hopefully a lot of good things happen and TSF Never sees Anymore Intel briefings.



brewens

(13,637 posts)
34. They need to pull some of the Trump briefings and follow their lead. They had to "Dick and Jane" everything
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 06:45 PM
Mar 7

to his comprehension level and he wouldn't even read that a lot of the time.

I'd say meet with Trump alone, give him the briefing verbally or allow him to read it himself and do not allow him to keep any copies. He's hardly capable of understanding and passing anything on verbally now anyway.

Evolve Dammit

(16,789 posts)
45. Would be the stupidist decision ever. He probably has sold all he has of value for which
Thu Mar 7, 2024, 08:06 PM
Mar 7

He should be in prison for life.

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