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PCIntern

(25,619 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 06:37 AM Mar 22

Jesus...

His former communications director said, "It's incredibly bad," she said. "This is a total blow to the brand of Trump; Trump is as much a brand as he is a businessman in some ways, even more so.”

Brand? A failed “University” which was sanctioned for fraud, steaks which were Outback rejects, a casino empire that went bankrupt, an airline which utterly sank into oblivion, a beauty pageant wherein pubescent girls were exposed in their changing room, a beauty pageant wherein adult women were assaulted, a vinegary variety of champagne, Trump Tea, (a totally forgotten enterprise), a fixed game show, as well as a whole host, actually an adult lifetime of outright lying - none dare call it exaggeration.

This is a brand? This is a catastrophe of capitalism. You know who’s a “brand” as an individual? Lee Iacocca, Steve Wynn, Frank Sinatra, Ed Sullivan, Walt Disney, Frank Perdue, were ..and many others. Their names evoked some fair measures of quality and success. This truly uneducated, uncaring, uncivilized moron’s name evokes sense of failure and incompetence. This is MAD Magazine’s definition of a brand - satirically. Except it’s not fiction, it’s history.

And with any measure of good fortune, he will be history in a few months as well.

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Jesus... (Original Post) PCIntern Mar 22 OP
"How the ___ do you lose money selling red meat to Americans?" underpants Mar 22 #1
On a similar note, how does a casino in Atlantic City lose money?!! Mr.WeRP Mar 22 #6
I had always assumed that he skimmed off his own casinos. Niagara Mar 22 #8
He overpaid and didn't bother to learn how the games work underpants Mar 22 #16
Exactly. Niagara Mar 22 #24
Money laundering, probably for Russians. yardwork Mar 22 #26
One casino in Atlantic City can make lot of money. ShazzieB Mar 22 #35
You might if you paid yourself a hefty salary TexasBushwhacker Mar 22 #37
Not impossible. ShazzieB Mar 22 #42
Maybe not failed on purpose, but he certainly took TexasBushwhacker Mar 22 #43
Jeesh, we once bought a quarter grass fed cow (120 lbs of meat) for $1000 Best_man23 Mar 22 #12
Same here. tavernier Mar 22 #30
I grew up in the Keys Best_man23 Mar 25 #49
For $3500 today, butchers will sell you a whole Angus NanaCat Mar 22 #44
"It takes a great man to make a tender chicken." bucolic_frolic Mar 22 #2
Failure Roy Rolling Mar 22 #3
This!!! Joinfortmill Mar 22 #4
The shock is still tthat he reached tthis far malaise Mar 22 #5
Yes absolutely PatSeg Mar 22 #32
as his elleng Mar 23 #47
Thank you. I got the same jolt when I read "this is a blow to the brand," ... Hekate Mar 22 #7
Trump testified his "brand" was his most valuable asset, worth $10B. sop Mar 22 #9
I wouldn't give 10 wooden nickels for the "Trump Brand" Best_man23 Mar 22 #13
Lenders all agreed the "Trump brand" is worthless. sop Mar 22 #18
Well said! Alice Kramden Mar 22 #10
His "brand" is... 2naSalit Mar 22 #11
And Republicans know all that dalton99a Mar 22 #14
And those are quotes from before the 2016 election. yardwork Mar 22 #27
Lindsey - "(TSF) will destroy the republican party and we'll deserve it." rubbersole Mar 22 #39
The BLOAT. Biggest Loser Of All Time. twodogsbarking Mar 22 #15
EXACTLY!!! I am sooooooo stealing that. niyad Mar 22 #21
BLOAT! Perfect. Thanks. Easterncedar Mar 22 #31
Losing money on a casino still takes the cake prodigitalson Mar 22 #17
I essentially live in Atlantic City and PCIntern Mar 22 #20
It takes a special level of stupid to do that, especially when it is niyad Mar 22 #22
Well stated SouthernDem4ever Mar 22 #19
Absolutely spot on, PC. niyad Mar 22 #23
Nicely put, as usual. (nt) Paladin Mar 22 #25
Good 3auld6phart Mar 22 #28
Trump is a legend in his own mind. He only thinks he livetohike Mar 22 #29
Trump's "Brand" is DEATH. FalloutShelter Mar 22 #33
Somehow tRump's carnival of failures has managed to be propped up as a legit brand all these years Blue Owl Mar 22 #34
Check out the dictionary definition of "trumpery" -- OMGWTF Mar 22 #36
"Brand"? Well... if bankruptcy is your kind of brand, then yeah. His name is synonomous with Sump Pump 4lbs Mar 22 #38
Sump Pump Trump! calimary Mar 22 #41
Slowly but surely destabilizing the enemy. calimary Mar 22 #40
Trump is indeed a brand. KentuckyWoman Mar 22 #45
BRANDED! Kablooie Mar 23 #46
Excellwnt PCIntern Mar 23 #48

underpants

(182,970 posts)
1. "How the ___ do you lose money selling red meat to Americans?"
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 06:44 AM
Mar 22

- Howard Stern


The steaks were USDA Angus certified[8] and came in four packages with prices ranging from $199 (with two bone-in rib-eyes, two filet mignons and 12 burgers),[11] $349, $499, and $999,[12] with the tagline of "The World's Greatest Steaks."


According to Sharper Image CEO Jerry W. Levin, "The net of all that was we literally sold almost no steaks, if we sold $50,000 of steaks grand total, I'd be surprised."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Steaks

Mr.WeRP

(107 posts)
6. On a similar note, how does a casino in Atlantic City lose money?!!
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 07:28 AM
Mar 22

Holy shit, these places practically print money.

Niagara

(7,707 posts)
8. I had always assumed that he skimmed off his own casinos.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 07:56 AM
Mar 22

He has always carried this Mafia like personality so when all his casinos went bankrupt, I could only assume that he was skimming them, or he hired someone else to skim them for him.


I believe he skimmed all his own business adventures. That thought has been in the back of my mind for years.


underpants

(182,970 posts)
16. He overpaid and didn't bother to learn how the games work
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 08:21 AM
Mar 22

Basically he was a showman out in the street barking customers in.

ShazzieB

(16,588 posts)
35. One casino in Atlantic City can make lot of money.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 03:29 PM
Mar 22

But when you build 3 casinos in the same city and let them cannibalize each other, it doesn't work so well.

Probably one of his dumbest business moves ever, if not the dumbest. I don't claim to know anything about business or finance, but even I know you don't set up your own businesses to directly compete with each other. You want to compete with your competitors, not with yourself!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,229 posts)
37. You might if you paid yourself a hefty salary
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 04:08 PM
Mar 22

from each business. The business can be broke, but Trump always got paid his management fees.

ShazzieB

(16,588 posts)
42. Not impossible.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 06:50 PM
Mar 22

Last edited Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:14 AM - Edit history (1)

But I don't see him deliberately bankrupting his own casinos. He's too proud of his fancy toys to want to make them fail on purpose.

I tend to think he got carried away, building casino after casino until the whole thing fell apart. If fits with his inability to anticipate the consequences of his actions.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,229 posts)
43. Maybe not failed on purpose, but he certainly took
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 07:27 PM
Mar 22

unreasonable risks because he knew none of his personal money was at risk. Refinancing his debt and bankruptcy were always a back up AND HE WAS OKAY WITH THAT. He's proud of his successful businesses and has ZERO SHAME about the that failed.

Best_man23

(4,914 posts)
12. Jeesh, we once bought a quarter grass fed cow (120 lbs of meat) for $1000
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 08:10 AM
Mar 22

Lasted us about 18 months. And we got a hell of a lot more burgers than 12 from that purchase.

Maybe the tRump meat still had the marks where the jockey was using the whip.

tavernier

(12,410 posts)
30. Same here.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 09:33 AM
Mar 22

Bags and bags of one pound ground, steaks and roasts of every cut and variety.

This is at my daughter’s farm in Indiana. They grow all their own produce and trade garden goodies for eggs with their neighbors.

When I’m home in the Keys I miss the tasty beef and fresh asparagus, but I make up for it with shrimp and grouper and mango and avocado from my back yard.

You can bet that Trump’s beef was one third bull and two thirds shit.

Best_man23

(4,914 posts)
49. I grew up in the Keys
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 07:35 AM
Mar 25

Really miss fresh grouper and shrimp. You can get grouper here in Virginia, but its $$$.

NanaCat

(1,385 posts)
44. For $3500 today, butchers will sell you a whole Angus
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 11:29 PM
Mar 22

We bought the whole shebang back in the 70s, around 190kg (410 lbs) of beef. Staggering how much freezer space one needs for that much meat, but never mind that.

Who in their right mind would pay $199 for four steaks and a dozen mince patties? It wasn't even 4 kg of meat, what, just over 8.5 pounds? That's nearly 50 quid per kilo, or $23/lb.

Bloody hell, you can get Angus beef fresh at the local grocer for less than that, even now. Our local market sells Angus ribeyes for less than $20/lb and mince for $7/lb. prime filets are $42/lb, but come out to around $22 for an 8 oz portion. His nasty slabs were 5 oz.

So at my humble grocer, I can get two ribeyes, two (bigger) filet mignons, and 6 pounds of mince of the same or better quality for $129. And they're not frozen, but fresh. That's the cost in 2024. In 2007, that same meat would have been even cheaper!

The extra costs were all for his stupid, useless brand.

bucolic_frolic

(43,426 posts)
2. "It takes a great man to make a tender chicken."
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 06:46 AM
Mar 22

Every time Trump fails, he falls upward. The Peter Principle states people rise in an organization until they reach their level of incompetence, and then they stay there, which is why there are so many incompetents and the world is so f*cked up.

Never trust con men who make lateral career moves.

Roy Rolling

(6,943 posts)
3. Failure
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 07:21 AM
Mar 22

Of course Trump is a terrible businessman. He is a figurehead of a scam financed by foreign oligarchs like Vladimir Putin.

Profit/loss means nothing. This is not capitalism, it is crony capitalism. He could lose another billion—until his handlers pull the hook.

PatSeg

(47,691 posts)
32. Yes absolutely
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 09:41 AM
Mar 22

It blows my mind that such an incompetent, talentless trainwreck could have gotten as far as he did. The only thing he is good at is grifting and honestly, he's not really good at that. He is a freak of nature.

Hekate

(90,936 posts)
7. Thank you. I got the same jolt when I read "this is a blow to the brand," ...
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 07:35 AM
Mar 22

Except I couldn’t articulate it past “Brand?! “ and

You did so much better.

sop

(10,274 posts)
9. Trump testified his "brand" was his most valuable asset, worth $10B.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 08:03 AM
Mar 22

"Trump testified in his NY depo that his most valuable asset is his name as brand, it’s worth more than all other assets combined, was worth $2.9B but becoming president made it 'the hottest brand in the world' worth $10B. So much for the cult argument that he 'sacrificed' for us." - Ron Filipkowski

Best_man23

(4,914 posts)
13. I wouldn't give 10 wooden nickels for the "Trump Brand"
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 08:11 AM
Mar 22

And that was BEFORE he came down the escalator.

PCIntern

(25,619 posts)
20. I essentially live in Atlantic City and
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 08:37 AM
Mar 22

His casinos and hotels were third rate including the stupid Taj Mahal whose parapets and roof design looked exactly like those in the Kremlin. I said that when it was built.

niyad

(113,713 posts)
22. It takes a special level of stupid to do that, especially when it is
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 08:46 AM
Mar 22

essentially a money laundering operation.

3auld6phart

(1,055 posts)
28. Good
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 09:06 AM
Mar 22

Right out of the ballpark. Bases loaded. Damn ? It’s incomprehensible to me why anybody would put that orange filthy bucketofgreaseon some kind of alter and praise him. Never knew about some of the shit he pulled off. Steaks and tea. Thanks for your rant. Every AM ,I get on Du to see if shitty diaper drumpfh has left this Vale of tears. . Damn he is still here

livetohike

(22,165 posts)
29. Trump is a legend in his own mind. He only thinks he
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 09:17 AM
Mar 22

has a brand. Other than hearing his name once in a while in the 80’s, who could name anything he owned? I didn’t read the tabloids then or now. His “brand” is going up in smoke.

FalloutShelter

(11,894 posts)
33. Trump's "Brand" is DEATH.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 09:43 AM
Mar 22

Everything Trump touches dies.

Not hyperbole... FACT.

Now, he wants to kill the Constitution and our Democracy. THIS IS THE MESSAGE>

Blue Owl

(50,536 posts)
34. Somehow tRump's carnival of failures has managed to be propped up as a legit brand all these years
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 10:21 AM
Mar 22

How? Is it the M$M? Some kind of behind-the-scenes mobbed-up support network? I don't get it. It was easy to see what a clown tRump was back in the 80's & 90's for anyone who was paying attention.

4lbs

(6,865 posts)
38. "Brand"? Well... if bankruptcy is your kind of brand, then yeah. His name is synonomous with Sump Pump
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 04:15 PM
Mar 22

Dumpy the Clown

Chumpy the Cheeto

Heir Hair

Orange No.

KentuckyWoman

(6,697 posts)
45. Trump is indeed a brand.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 11:53 PM
Mar 22

Along the same lines as Hitler, The Hindenburg, Titanic, Chernobyl, and whoever that idiot was who pissed off Genghis Khan

Kablooie

(18,645 posts)
46. BRANDED!
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:25 AM
Mar 23

Branded!
Marked with a coward's shame.
What do you do when you're branded,
And you know your insane?

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