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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMerrick Garland is passionately defending us!
From ... shitty green bubbles on iPhone-to-Android texting?
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/03/apples-green-bubbles-targeted-by-doj-in-lawsuit-over-iphone-monopoly/
"As any iPhone user who has ever seen a green text message, or received a tiny, grainy video can attest, Apple's anticompetitive conduct also includes making it more difficult for iPhone users to message with users of non-Apple products," Garland said while announcing the suit that alleges Apple illegally monopolized the smartphone market.
And so, SO much more "outrage."
Sky Jewels
(7,235 posts)A coup d'etat attempt? Ho hum. Sure, the architects of the attempt to overthrow democracy are still largely in power, but one wouldn't want to appear to be unseemly and political by pursuing justice in a swift manner!
LearnedHand
(3,396 posts)bringing to bear the wrath of DOJ!
Sky Jewels
(7,235 posts)Amirite?!
BeyondGeography
(39,409 posts)and a bipartisan immigration bill. His hold on the GOP is stronger than ever and he is running neck-and-neck in the polls with Biden. BUT WE HAVE JOHN EASTMANS PHONE.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...without actually saying it.
You might have written SOMETHING explaining to us how it's fine and proper for the Justice Dept. to be focused on helping Democrats win the election against the AG's boss' political rival, conducting their investigations and prosecutions on a election-timetable.
Then you can tell us how that's any different from what Barr did as AG.
BeyondGeography
(39,409 posts)Heres a former federal prosecutor who does.
He says, among other things, the Raffensperger call alone was enough for Garland to pursue a federal indictment under Title 18, Section 241, an election fraud statute that he was eventually charged under. This could have been done in 2021. But as recent reporting has confirmed, Garland was afraid that would look too political:
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...jumping into court without even gaining the permission of the courts for the testimony of the Trump attorneys?
Did you miss the grand jury process of gathering evidence that ultimately allowed the SC to bring the indictments? Why are you or this person pretending Garland had independent power to just jump into court without the grand juries which the federal justice system uses to bring charges forward?
Did you miss the court challenges to attorney testimony which evicerated the confidentiality of at least 5 key Trump lawyers? Are they really saying those aren't key to this prosecution.
How absurd to pluck out some singular thing they read in the newspaper and insist it's the stuff prosecutions of former presidents are made of.
Why is this person advocating a half-assed prosecution which would have left reams of key and critical testimony on the floor?
The second-guessing looks like professional jealousy, or some other vanity.
This person isn't disputing me, they are disputing the judgments of dozens of DOJ career attorneys and SC special-hires, as if they know anything significant about the secret prosecutions they have zero involvement in to make such strident judgments.
And, here we are with Garland critics arguing he should have brushed past evidence, key testimony from inside the WH -forget Garland's DOJ arguing in court to remove the attorney/client protections against testifying against their boss and client - just move forward with this little piece of the case I gleaned from news reports.
Hilarious.
DontBelieveEastisEas
(527 posts)Think. Again.
(9,181 posts)...garland is too high up on the ladder to be involved in cases that involved a former and possibly future President including serious national security issues, so he can't be held responsible for the actions of different departments within the agency runs.
I guess how text messages appear on various types of phones is more fitting to his elevated position..
DontBelieveEastisEas
(527 posts)Think. Again.
(9,181 posts)"As any iPhone user who has ever seen a green text message, or received a tiny, grainy video can attest, Apple's anticompetitive conduct also includes making it more difficult for iPhone users to message with users of non-Apple products," Garland said while announcing the suit that alleges Apple illegally monopolized the smartphone market.
DontBelieveEastisEas
(527 posts)But I think he is far worse at protecting American justice.
And that's saying a LOT considering how trivial he made this case seem with that statement!
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...it's a prosecution that doesn't actually hang on how much you like his presentation.
Lol. It's not as if Garland is going to be trying the case, ffs.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...when he hasn't had that responsibility since he hired Jack Smith to do the job.
orthoclad
(2,910 posts)to hire a prosecutor. And doing NOTHING in the meantime, including not acting on referrals for prosecution from the House. Or making the moles in DOJ harmless.
Justice delayed is justice denied.
I think he might still want a lifetime job sinecure. With great vacations.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...well before he hired Smith.
___
NYT:
"It (was) Mr. Windom, working under the close supervision of Garlands top aides, who is executing the departments time-tested, if slow-moving, strategy of working from the periphery of the events inward..."
"He ha(d) been leading investigators who have been methodically seeking information about the roles played by some of Mr. Trumps top advisers, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and John Eastman, with a mandate to go as high up the chain of command as evidence warrants."
"Mr. Windoms second objective mirroring one focus of the Jan. 6 committee is a widening investigation into the group of lawyers close to Mr. Trump who helped to devise and promote the plan to create alternate slates of electors."
The other investigative team, looking at efforts to block the transfer of power from Trump to President Joe Biden after the 2020 election, had even a year ago been given the greenlight by the Justice Department to take a case all the way up to Trump, if the evidence leads them there, according to the sources. Work thats been led by the DC US Attorneys Office into political circles around Trump related to January 6 now will move under the special counsel.
Partly led by former Maryland-based federal prosecutor Thomas Windom, DOJ has added prosecutors to the January 6 team from all over the department in recent months. Windom and the rest are also expected to move over to the special counsels office. Some, like Mary Dohrmann, a prosecutor whos worked on several other Capitol riot cases already, appear to be reorienting, according to court records of open Capitol riot cases.
Another top prosecutor, JP Cooney, the former head of public corruption in the DC US Attorneys Office, is overseeing a significant financial probe that Smith will take on. The probe includes examining the possible misuse of political contributions, according to some of the sources. The DC US Attorneys Office, before the special counsels arrival, had examined potential financial crimes related to the January 6 riot, including possible money laundering and the support of rioters hotel stays and bus trips to Washington ahead of January 6.
In recent months, however, the financial investigation has sought information about Trumps post-election Save America PAC and other funding of people who assisted Trump, according to subpoenas viewed by CNN. The financial investigation picked up steam as DOJ investigators enlisted cooperators months after the 2021 riot, one of the sources said.
In interviews with people in Trumps orbit over the past several months, some of the DOJ focus has been on the timeline leading up to January 6 and Trumps involvement and knowledge of potential events that day, according to a source familiar with the questioning.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html
...here we can see Garland's team, already far ahead of Mueller's entire investigation, and Jack Smith taking on over 20 prosecutors in a 'fast moving investigation.'
___ Jack Smith takes over a staff thats already nearly twice the size of Robert Muellers team of lawyers who worked on the Russia probe. A team of 20 prosecutors investigating January 6 and the effort to overturn the 2020 election are in the process of moving to work under Smith, according to multiple people familiar with the team.
Smith will also take on national security investigators already working the probe into the potential mishandling of federal records taken to Mar-a-Lago after Trump left the White House.
Together, the twin investigations have already established more evidence than what Mueller started with, including from a year-long financial probe thats largely flown under the radar.
Mueller was starting virtually from scratch, whereas Jack Smith is seemingly integrating on the fly into an active, fast-moving investigation, said Elie Honig, a former federal prosecutor and senior CNN legal analyst.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html
orthoclad
(2,910 posts)witness memories got vague, the public memory morphed from "coup" to "tourists", etc. The insurrection got normalized.
Germany, for instance, acted quickly with their recent coup attempt. They arrested plotters before they acted, and had them jailed immediately.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...what delays?
Anon poster says there were delays.
I must have missed the part where Jack Smith's case suffered from "witness memories got vague, the public memory morphed from "coup" to "tourists", etc."
Probably because that's just nonsense and projection.
How the fuck did the 'insurrection get normalized" after the arrests and convictions of over 1300 white supremacist domestic terrorist trump supporting Capitol rioters on charges ranging up to sedition and obstruction by Garland's DOJ?
Holy shit. The stupid on this thread.
Sky Jewels
(7,235 posts)In early 2021 there was a mountain of evidence against sitting members of Congress and other powerful poohbahs who orchestrated a literal coup d'etat attempt. The DOJ should have pounced. But Milquetoast Merrick, formerly of the Federalist Society, didn't want to appear to be political. Putting Dwayne the Wannabe Terrorist from Tennessee in jail doesn't do much when Ron Johnson is still in power and not in prison.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...despite the fact Garland had seized the phones and other communications from Rep. Scott, Guiliani, Meadows, Clark, Eastman and others well before Congress held their hearings, and before the Smith hire, people still insist they did nothing.
That lie has been disproven repeatedly, and I'm certain you've seen the debunking of those easily disproved distortions.
Before Jack Smith was appointed, Merrick Garland:
Seized Jeffrey Clark's phone
Seized Scott Perry's emails
Seized Eastman's emails
Seized Epshteyn's phone
Seized Mike Lindell's phone
Seized Mike Roman's phone
Seized Scott Perry's phone
Got Kash Patel's testimony
Appointed Windom
Appointed Cooney
Subpoenaed the fraudulent electors
Subpoenaed 7 state's election officials
Subpoenaed Sidney's PAC
Subpoenaed Rudy
Opened IG probe into Clark
Opened IG probe into DoJ response to 1/6
Negotiated subpoena for Meadows
Battled the 11th circuit for classified docs
Subpoenaed trump for classified docs
Subpoenaed trump for surveillance video
Executed a search warrant on trump
Convicted Bannon of contempt
Indicted Navarro for contempt
Subpoenaed the speakers from 1/6
Subpoenaed the organizers of 1/6
Secured seditious conspiracy convictions
Subpoenaed records for any member of congress involved in 1/6
Subpoenaed info on Jenna Ellis
Secured testimony from Mark Short
Secured testimony from Jacob Engel
Secured testimony from Philbin
Secured testimony from Cippollone
Subpoenaed info on trump's PACs
Won privilege battles for Short, Engel, and the Pats
Negotiated for Pence's subpoena
Seized the phone records of Meadows
Secured the 1/6 committee transcripts
Subpoenaed 7 secretaries of state
I'm always dumbfounded at the way Garland critics lay out a much lesser case and investigation from their imaginations than the DOJ has been prosecuting, and then proclaim themselves superior over the dozens of career and special-hire prosecutors working on the case
For instance, they would have the AG leave evidence on the floor and jump into court half-assed, like ignoring the years long court battles DOJ waged to unlock the phones, obtaining communications being challenged before judges, and most importantly, getting the courts to remove the attorney/client restrictions on testimony from at least five key Trump attorneys.
Thank god this thing isn't being run by these internet prosecutors who NEVR bother to provide anything more than this projection that justice should move faster, or that seasoned professionals know less or care less than they do about obtaining prosecutions.
It might be more believable (not really) if these folks came correct with receipts for the nonsense takes based on their personal angst that the non-partisan DOJ isn't winning an election for them against an already convicted rapist and fraudster.
If DOJ actually took all of the whinging that they're not winning the election for Democrats seriously, they wouldn't be out of line asking just what their critics are doing about that, since it's essentially our job and responsibility - not the Justice Department's - to keep Trump out of office.
I mean, neither charges or a conviction can bar anyone from running for office or being elected, so what are we really talking about here?
There are still two outstanding multi-felony Trump indictments pending from a still-open investigation.
emulatorloo
(44,298 posts)Glad I missed this speech.
dalton99a
(81,797 posts)People who loved Apple got an iPhone, and people who hated Apple got a Samsung
DontBelieveEastisEas
(527 posts)I felt trapped so that I could continue to FaceTime my group.
Now, some feel trapped due to their Apple watches not working on an Android.
There are other factors like the App Store and the type of code Apple requires. Many other things, it is far more complex than the general public is aware of.
unc70
(6,139 posts)The call must be initiated from from the iPhone/iPad user.
They send you a link to use.
edhopper
(33,744 posts)to have my Android phone. Maybe I just prefer the way Android phones work?
Silent3
(15,490 posts)Pretty please?
LearnedHand
(3,396 posts)hlthe2b
(102,666 posts)bigtree
(86,048 posts)...DOJ.gov, just for this March:
March 23, 2024
Federal Court Enters $9.9M Penalty and Injunction Against Man Found to Have Caused Thousands of Unlawful Spoofed Robocalls
March 22, 2024
Six Former Mississippi Law Enforcement Officers Sentenced for Torturing and Abusing Two Black
March 19, 2024
Owners of China-Based Company Charged with Conspiracy to Send Trade Secrets Belonging to Leading U.S.-Based Electric Vehicle Company
March 18, 2024
Four Men Sentenced for $18M Global Investment Fraud Scheme
March 18, 2024
Former President of Energy Company Pleads Guilty to $5.5M Illegal Kickback Conspiracy and Commodities Insider Trading Scheme
March 18, 2024
Justice Department Finds University Failed to Address Allegations of Sexual Abuse of Student Athletes in Maryland
March 18, 2024
Rock Doc Sentenced for Opioid Distribution Conspiracy
March 18, 2024
Operator of Florida Labor Staffing Companies Sentenced to Four Years in Prison for Tax and Immigration Charges
March 15, 2024
Justice Department Secures Agreement with Connecticut Department of Correction to Protect Religious Rights in Prison
March 14, 2024
USTP Prevails at Trial on Objection to Chapter 11 Debtors Executive Bonuses
March 14, 2024
Leader of Drug Trafficking Organization Sentenced for International Cocaine Trafficking Conspiracy
March 13, 2024
Justice Department Sues Six Health Plans and Their Alliance for Concealing Overpayments for Military Managed Care Program
March 12, 2024
Duwamish River Settlement Provides Benefits to Fish, Wildlife and Local Communities
March 12, 2024
Man Sentenced for Sending Bomb Threat to Arizona State Election Official
March 11, 2024
Ford Motor Company Agrees to Pay $365M to Settle Customs Civil Penalty Claims Relating to Misclassified and Under-Valued Vehicles
March 8, 2024
Owner of Telemedicine Companies Pleads Guilty to Role in $136M Medicare Fraud Conspiracy
more: https://www.justice.gov/news?page=0
LearnedHand
(3,396 posts)Literally the green text bubbles? With great passion? I get the whole antitrust/anticompetitive thing. I'm just gobsmacked that this is the thing he speaks out on.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...I can see that.
Garland's given scores of speeches. Acting like this is the only one is absolute weirdness.
https://www.justice.gov/news/speeches
Attorney General Merrick B. Garland Delivers Remarks at the Anti-Defamation Leagues Never is Now Summit
Attorney General Merrick B. Garland Deliver Remarks on Bloody Sunday at Tabernacle Baptist Church in Selma, Alabama
Attorney General Merrick B. Garland Delivers Remarks at the Presidents Interagency Task Force to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons
Attorney General Merrick B. Garland Delivers Remarks on the Justice Departments Report on its Critical Incident Review of the Response to the Mass Shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas
Attorney General Merrick B. Garland Delivers Remarks on Combating Violent Crime
Attorney General Merrick B. Garland Delivers Remarks at the Justice Departments Violent Crime Reduction Summit
Attorney General Merrick B. Garland Delivers Remarks at the White House Tribal Nations Summit
brooklynite
(95,211 posts)GREEN bubbles are texts, which are potentially limited by your phone plan. BLUE bubbles are sent by iMessage, an internal Apple software for which there's no cost.
LearnedHand
(3,396 posts)The green ones are not. SMS texts aren't encrypted at all, though, so I'm not sure what the issue is. https://www.howtogeek.com/709373/why-sms-text-messages-arent-private-or-secure/
And FWIW, I use Signal to exchange encrypted texts with Android users. Plus everyone gets the pretty blue bubbles.
dem4decades
(11,335 posts)He was late to the party and is now running out of time.
LearnedHand
(3,396 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,235 posts)bigtree
(86,048 posts)...Garland arrested over 1300 white supremacist Trump-supporting domestic terrorists, including riot leaders on felony charges of sedition and obstruction as a clever ruse to let Trump off?
Holy shit... wait, wait.
Okay... Alright.
FFs, he should be forgiven for thinking Democrats have enough political chops to defeat an already-convicted tax fraudster found liable for a sexual assault without DOJ acting like an arm of a political party in an election like they did under Trump and Barr.
BeyondGeography
(39,409 posts)How would Bidens DOJ pursuing Trump for election fraud, election interference and insurrection be just as political as anything Trump and Barr did?
Oh, I know, it would be positioned that way by wingnut media, but so what? If we couldnt defend ourselves from those arguments were lost as a party (and as a democracy) anyway.
The bottom line is the single most important job Garland had when he took this gig was to hold Trump accountable for his crimes. He obviously didnt see it that way. He wanted a return to norms and to rebuild faith in the institution. He thought Trump was yesterdays news and would fade away.
This was not only naive but, by hoping to keep his hands clean, he made them dirtier than they would have been if he made prosecuting Trump his top priority. Because now, instead of binding up our wounds and moving forward after dispensing of Trump, were not only prosecuting him in an election year, were running a serious risk of zero accountability and no trials.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...he was investigating the Trump WH.
Both at the same time.
At the point Garland had amassed more evidence than Mueller did in his entire Russia probe, he hired Jack Smith, who took over Garland's over 20 prosecutors already working on the investigation, acccelerating and deepening what was described at the time he was hired as a 'fast moving investigation.'
What you describe did not happen. It's fantasy and projection without a shred of proof for what you're accusing Garland's DOJ of doing.
My receipts:
___
NYT:
"It (was) Mr. Windom, working under the close supervision of Garlands top aides, who is executing the departments time-tested, if slow-moving, strategy of working from the periphery of the events inward..."
"He ha(d) been leading investigators who have been methodically seeking information about the roles played by some of Mr. Trumps top advisers, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and John Eastman, with a mandate to go as high up the chain of command as evidence warrants."
"Mr. Windoms second objective mirroring one focus of the Jan. 6 committee is a widening investigation into the group of lawyers close to Mr. Trump who helped to devise and promote the plan to create alternate slates of electors."
The other investigative team, looking at efforts to block the transfer of power from Trump to President Joe Biden after the 2020 election, had even a year ago been given the greenlight by the Justice Department to take a case all the way up to Trump, if the evidence leads them there, according to the sources. Work thats been led by the DC US Attorneys Office into political circles around Trump related to January 6 now will move under the special counsel.
Partly led by former Maryland-based federal prosecutor Thomas Windom, DOJ has added prosecutors to the January 6 team from all over the department in recent months. Windom and the rest are also expected to move over to the special counsels office. Some, like Mary Dohrmann, a prosecutor whos worked on several other Capitol riot cases already, appear to be reorienting, according to court records of open Capitol riot cases.
Another top prosecutor, JP Cooney, the former head of public corruption in the DC US Attorneys Office, is overseeing a significant financial probe that Smith will take on. The probe includes examining the possible misuse of political contributions, according to some of the sources. The DC US Attorneys Office, before the special counsels arrival, had examined potential financial crimes related to the January 6 riot, including possible money laundering and the support of rioters hotel stays and bus trips to Washington ahead of January 6.
In recent months, however, the financial investigation has sought information about Trumps post-election Save America PAC and other funding of people who assisted Trump, according to subpoenas viewed by CNN. The financial investigation picked up steam as DOJ investigators enlisted cooperators months after the 2021 riot, one of the sources said.
In interviews with people in Trumps orbit over the past several months, some of the DOJ focus has been on the timeline leading up to January 6 and Trumps involvement and knowledge of potential events that day, according to a source familiar with the questioning.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html
Here we can see Garland's team, already far ahead of Mueller's entire investigation, and Jack Smith taking on over 20 prosecutors in a 'fast moving investigation.'
___ Jack Smith takes over a staff thats already nearly twice the size of Robert Muellers team of lawyers who worked on the Russia probe. A team of 20 prosecutors investigating January 6 and the effort to overturn the 2020 election are in the process of moving to work under Smith, according to multiple people familiar with the team.
Smith will also take on national security investigators already working the probe into the potential mishandling of federal records taken to Mar-a-Lago after Trump left the White House.
Together, the twin investigations have already established more evidence than what Mueller started with, including from a year-long financial probe thats largely flown under the radar.
Mueller was starting virtually from scratch, whereas Jack Smith is seemingly integrating on the fly into an active, fast-moving investigation, said Elie Honig, a former federal prosecutor and senior CNN legal analyst.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html
You don't have one quote from Garland about 'hands clean' or any other such nonsense from the AG supporting that mind-reading nonsense about norms and the rest.
It's just not supported by the myriad reports of his investigation, especially the misreported accounts of his 'waiting' for something. Garlan's DOJ was investigating the Trump WH as early as 2021. They just were, and not one of the claims he waited for something account for those reports.
They just ignore them and push forward with their talking points. It's not credible, and only has value as misinformation, so it's a wonder why these folks feel comfortable spreading pure bullshit as fact against this admin's AG.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...read.
Or just keep equating Barr with Garland.
It's amazing to me that you feel comfortable here doing this, but I'd say at this point, with all of the derision and demagoguery about Garland flying around on this site, it's par.
Rubin: The real weaponization of the Justice Department: Barr and Durham
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/01/30/justice-department-barr-dunham/
Barrs Approach Closes Gap Between Justice Dept. and White House
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/william-barr-justice-department.html
DOJ Whistleblowers Testify That William Barr Has Politicized Justice
Democrats called the attorney general the "president's fixer" as Justice Department employees laid out interference in politically charged cases.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/william-barr-justice-department-politicization_n_5ef37e56c5b66c312680f393
New evidence emerges of Team Trump politicizing the Justice Dept.
According to a leading prosecutor in the former administration, Team Trump's efforts to politicize federal law enforcement was even worse than we realized.ttps://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/new-evidence-emerges-team-trump-politicizing-justice-dept-rcna46924
Bill Barrs despicable conduct is now on full display -Elie Honig
We already knew that Barr politicized the Justice Department. He used it defensively to shield Trump from potential criminal exposure by misleading the public about Muellers findings, and by declaring, contrary to the evidence and the law, that Trump had not obstructed justice. (In his report, Mueller detailed extensive evidence of obstruction, but declined to clearly state whether he concluded that Trump had committed a crime). And Barr intervened in unprecedented fashion to undermine his own Justice Departments prosecutions of Trumps political allies Michael Flynn and Roger Stone.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/11/opinions/bill-barr-despicable-conduct-honig/index.html
BeyondGeography
(39,409 posts)But nice try anyway.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...you advocate not only a weak, incomplete, prosecution, but also a corrupt one, as well, if you think he should do what Barr did.
It's a wonder that you're advocating justice, and a subversion of it in the same breath.
Sky Jewels
(7,235 posts)He sat on his hands for almost two years.
bigtree
(86,048 posts)...what in the world do you think Jack Smith would do differently at the start of the probe?
I mean, be specific, because I'm not arguing the investigation in your head.
Here's Garland's over 20 prosecutors before he brought on Jack Smith:
Seized Jeffrey Clark's phone
Seized Scott Perry's emails
Seized Eastman's emails
Seized Epshteyn's phone
Seized Mike Lindell's phone
Seized Mike Roman's phone
Seized Scott Perry's phone
Got Kash Patel's testimony
Appointed Windom
Appointed Cooney
Subpoenaed the fraudulent electors
Subpoenaed 7 state's election officials
Subpoenaed Sidney's PAC
Subpoenaed Rudy
Opened IG probe into Clark
Opened IG probe into DoJ response to 1/6
Negotiated subpoena for Meadows
Battled the 11th circuit for classified docs
Subpoenaed trump for classified docs
Subpoenaed trump for surveillance video
Executed a search warrant on trump
Convicted Bannon of contempt
Indicted Navarro for contempt
Subpoenaed the speakers from 1/6
Subpoenaed the organizers of 1/6
Secured seditious conspiracy convictions
Subpoenaed records for any member of congress involved in 1/6
Subpoenaed info on Jenna Ellis
Secured testimony from Mark Short
Secured testimony from Jacob Engel
Secured testimony from Philbin
Secured testimony from Cippollone
Subpoenaed info on trump's PACs
Won privilege battles for Short, Engel, and the Pats
Negotiated for Pence's subpoena
Seized the phone records of Meadows
Secured the 1/6 committee transcripts
Subpoenaed 7 secretaries of state
Smith came on board AFTER Garland's team of over 20 prosecutors had already amassed more evidence than Mueller's entire Russia probe, and was met with what was described as a "fast moving investigation." *
*citation: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html
...and you've lied here about Garland 'sitting on his hands' for 2 years.
Garland's investigation into the Trump WH began in the Fall of 2021, well before he hired Smith, and was conducted AT THE SAME TIME he was busy prosecuting what later amounted to over 1300 white supremacist, Trump-supporting, domestic terrorists on charges ranging up to Sedition and Obstruction.*
*citations:
___
NYT:
"It (was) Mr. Windom, working under the close supervision of Garlands top aides, who is executing the departments time-tested, if slow-moving, strategy of working from the periphery of the events inward..."
"He ha(d) been leading investigators who have been methodically seeking information about the roles played by some of Mr. Trumps top advisers, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and John Eastman, with a mandate to go as high up the chain of command as evidence warrants."
"Mr. Windoms second objective mirroring one focus of the Jan. 6 committee is a widening investigation into the group of lawyers close to Mr. Trump who helped to devise and promote the plan to create alternate slates of electors."
The other investigative team, looking at efforts to block the transfer of power from Trump to President Joe Biden after the 2020 election, had even a year ago been given the greenlight by the Justice Department to take a case all the way up to Trump, if the evidence leads them there, according to the sources. Work thats been led by the DC US Attorneys Office into political circles around Trump related to January 6 now will move under the special counsel.
Partly led by former Maryland-based federal prosecutor Thomas Windom, DOJ has added prosecutors to the January 6 team from all over the department in recent months. Windom and the rest are also expected to move over to the special counsels office. Some, like Mary Dohrmann, a prosecutor whos worked on several other Capitol riot cases already, appear to be reorienting, according to court records of open Capitol riot cases.
Another top prosecutor, JP Cooney, the former head of public corruption in the DC US Attorneys Office, is overseeing a significant financial probe that Smith will take on. The probe includes examining the possible misuse of political contributions, according to some of the sources. The DC US Attorneys Office, before the special counsels arrival, had examined potential financial crimes related to the January 6 riot, including possible money laundering and the support of rioters hotel stays and bus trips to Washington ahead of January 6.
In recent months, however, the financial investigation has sought information about Trumps post-election Save America PAC and other funding of people who assisted Trump, according to subpoenas viewed by CNN. The financial investigation picked up steam as DOJ investigators enlisted cooperators months after the 2021 riot, one of the sources said.
In interviews with people in Trumps orbit over the past several months, some of the DOJ focus has been on the timeline leading up to January 6 and Trumps involvement and knowledge of potential events that day, according to a source familiar with the questioning.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html
republianmushroom
(14,071 posts)38 months and counting
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