What Amazes Me How All The Talking Heads That Were Predicting Tr**p's Demise Today.......

[global1]

have pivoted so fast and are now saying that all along the $464 bond was too high and it was to be expected that it would be reduced in Tr**p's favor.

Somehow these talking heads need to position themselves on both sides of the fence - so they save face and still keep their jobs as experts. Now we'll be able to watch them back-pedal on their previous predictions - so they could still look and sound like experts.

All along I was expecting that somehow Tr**p would survive this crisis and come up with some sort of Hail Mary solution for his problems.

They are saying that he still has a staggering burden on him - but somehow the wagons keep circling around this criminal and he squeaks by.

I'm still leaning on how he and the Repugs will somehow - cheat, lie and steal the election in Nov and Tr**p absolves himself of all of this.

The stakes are just so high for all sides in this - what I call a battle for the Democracy of our Country and accountability for Tr**p .

[Srkdqltr]

1. The fix is in

[getagrip_already]

2. Not what i heard, but ok...

What I heard was they didn't expect the appeals court to reduce the bond because they almost never do that.

These were lawyers and prosecutors with decades of experience in ny courts, both civil snd criminal.

What the appeals court did was very rare.

Ny does have some very conservative judges on the appeals court, so it could have just been luck one of those got to do the initial review.

A 3 judge panel may rule differently when they do the full review. I think this was just an emergency appeal, which would have been heard by one judge.

[Hugin]

3. It's very rare because it can't be done on a whim...

As, seems to have been done in TSF’s case.

It also requires a reasonable expectation that the defendants will prevail on appeal. It’s never done simply because the defendant can’t afford the bond, either. Or else, there’s a shitload of people in prison who don’t belong there.

[MichMan]

5. I didn't think people were put in prison for civil suits.

[Hugin]

6. The bar is lower on civil cases, but bonds and bail work the same way.

The criteria is the same.

[MichMan]

7. So, if Trump wasn't able to pay the original bond today, he would have been jailed?

Never heard that being said before. All I heard was that NYS could start seizing property and financial assets.

[Hugin]

10. That's not what I said... n/t

[iluvtennis]

9. I didn't interpret the ruling as he will prevail on the appeal. My take is that TSF just get to put a

smaller amount ($175 million) in escrow account to start his appeal process.

If he loses the appeal, he still owes the full $483 million judgment to state of New York.

[former9thward]

16. The court can reduce the amount owed.

I doubt it will be anything close to the $483 million.

[former9thward]

14. This was heard by a panel of five judges.

It was not a decision by one judge.

[markpkessinger]

17. Five judges signed the decision, not three

See https://www.nycourts.gov/courts/ad1/calendar/Motions_Word/2024/03_Mar/25/PDF/People%20of%20State%20NY%20v%20Trump%20(M-1025).pdf

[former9thward]

18. Sorry, I missed that.

I will edit.

[MichMan]

4. People here have been predicting that AG James would start seizing property tomorrow

[NanaCat]

20. They said Ms James would start seizing properties

IF he couldn't come up with the bond.

Why don't you try including that conditional, rather than misrepresenting what people have said?

[Sympthsical]

8. I thought there was no way that $464 million requirement would hold

But I wasn't going to say that here, lol. Nope.

[twodogsbarking]

11. The courts must be reasonable. See what happens in the next ten days.

[SlimJimmy]

12. Why not?

You would have just been alerted on for using a"right wing talking point."

[Sympthsical]

15. . . .

[AverageOldGuy]

13. Speaking as an old guy . . .

. . . I'll be 80 in a few months so I'm authorized to speak as an old guy who yells at the kids to GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

I quit watching all but the first 3-5 minutes of MSNBC and CNN. In those few minutes you get the who, what, when, and where. I also watch the first half hour or so of PBS News Hour then turn it off when they call in the "experts."

I gave up on the talking heads a long time ago.

As for "experts" -- X is the unknown quantity and "spurt" is hot air coming out under pressure.

Now -- I need a nap.

[LeftInTX]

19. I didn't think they would seize his properties today.