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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:01 AM Nov 2012

So The Final Election Result Is Obama 51% -Romney 47%

Gallup had it 50%-49% Romney and Rasmussen had it 49%-48% Romney.


They are either inept or corrupt.


It really doesn't matter. That's some sloppy social science.


edited Gallup and Rass results. Gallup was even more "craptastic" than I remembered.

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So The Final Election Result Is Obama 51% -Romney 47% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 OP
Final ABC/WaPo had it 50-47 BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #1
Rasmussen And Gallup Are Two Of The Worst Pollsters DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #2
I'm very happy to see Gallup exposed BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #15
And that was after Gallup "suspended" polling for a week BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #3
I Hope When They Release Results In 014 And 016 Their 010 And 012 Fails Are Noted. They Suck. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #4
Forgot which was which BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #8
Pew's Final LV Numbers Was 50%-47% I Believe. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #9
They are either inept or corrupt. Flashmann Nov 2012 #5
The likely John2 Nov 2012 #6
is the media still calling it 'too close to call' or 'neck in neck' ?? spanone Nov 2012 #7
That is what is called poetic justice Generic Other Nov 2012 #10
The Election Was Never That Close Despite The Attempts Of Right Wing Pollsters To Make It Seem Close DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #11
47% BrainDrain Nov 2012 #12
ADVERTISING !!! BlueStreak Nov 2012 #13
DemocratSinceBirth Diclotican Nov 2012 #14
As of 11/26, the 2012 National Popular Vote Tracker has Mitt at 47.49 rocktivity Nov 2012 #16
I hope to see the pres at an unrounded 51% and Romn$y At 47%/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #17
I don't know how Rasmussen gets it's sampling, but Cleita Nov 2012 #18
Many outsource actual sampling to a "Bain Romney" corp unc70 Nov 2012 #21
It certainly makes sense. Cleita Nov 2012 #22
Really need some more research on SSI unc70 Nov 2012 #25
Media whores were SOOO hoping Romney would win the Popular Vote JI7 Nov 2012 #19
Money Boo Boo Wasn't Even Close/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #20
I hope that now that we've settled the numbers, we can move on/ i am thee modren man Nov 2012 #23
47% voted for him Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #24
Ha. Now Romney's 47% can continue to wait-on OUR 47% hand and foot.... Smarmie Doofus Nov 2012 #26

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
2. Rasmussen And Gallup Are Two Of The Worst Pollsters
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:04 AM
Nov 2012

The only thing, imho, that separates them from ARG and Zogby is that they have bigger platforms.

BeyondGeography

(39,380 posts)
15. I'm very happy to see Gallup exposed
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:09 AM
Nov 2012

They drove tons of bullshit Romentum coverage with their numbers. Not that it mattered in the end (which is another thing I'm happy about), but Frank Newport is a very biased individual and he and Gallup still have the NPR platform, not to mention the Gallup brand, which the horse-race happy MSM was all too eager to push because most people don't know any better. They're a menace.

BumRushDaShow

(129,478 posts)
3. And that was after Gallup "suspended" polling for a week
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:07 AM
Nov 2012

supposedly due to Hurricane Sandy, despite the fact that the Hurricane didn't impact 80% of the states.

They exposed their RW bias once and for all.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
4. I Hope When They Release Results In 014 And 016 Their 010 And 012 Fails Are Noted. They Suck.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:10 AM
Nov 2012

BTW, didn't Pew have it 50% -47%

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
6. The likely
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:16 AM
Nov 2012

voter models need to be thrown out because they don't know who is a likely voter. Rasmussen doesn't even do registered voters. Gallup gave President Obama a three point lead with their registered voter model. I also suspect the exit Polls might be a little off now for white voters if they took a sample now because of the late votes coming from these storm areas. I wouldn't be surprised if president Obama got more than 39 percent.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
10. That is what is called poetic justice
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:57 AM
Nov 2012

karma, irony, what goes around comes around, chickens coming home to roost, consequences of hubris...

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
13. ADVERTISING !!!
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:08 AM
Nov 2012

It will come down exactly the same way next time. The MSM makes so much profit from political ads, they cannot afford to say "this isn't close"

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
14. DemocratSinceBirth
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:09 AM
Nov 2012

DemocratSinceBirth

Oh the irony.... The "Mitters" 47 percent coment is really coming back to hurt him....

Diclotican

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
16. As of 11/26, the 2012 National Popular Vote Tracker has Mitt at 47.49
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:47 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:27 PM - Edit history (5)

making it official:

With rounding, it is now technically true that Mitt really DID get "only" 47% of the vote. Of course, this also means that we now cannot say that he didn't accomplish anything...


UPDATE: AS OF 5PM EST 11/26, he is down to 47.47% -- how sweet it is!


rocktivity

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
18. I don't know how Rasmussen gets it's sampling, but
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:32 PM
Nov 2012

Gallup seems to poll in predominantly conservative states and places. As a west coast Californian, I have never been polled by either, yet friends of mine who live in fly over country in the USA are polled every election by Gallup on a frequent basis. It seems like Gallup is tipping the sampling to favor the side of those who are paying them.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
22. It certainly makes sense.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks for the information. My suspicions now have some facts behind them.

 
23. I hope that now that we've settled the numbers, we can move on/
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:22 PM
Nov 2012

Let's see if the Democrats cave and cuts social programs and entitlements. If they do, these numbers don't mean a damn thing.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
26. Ha. Now Romney's 47% can continue to wait-on OUR 47% hand and foot....
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:14 PM
Nov 2012

... while we continue to suckle at the government's teat.

Ha.

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