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kpete

(72,018 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 10:26 AM Apr 13

If you don't own yourself absolutely, you own nothing.



If you don't accept that bodily autonomy is an essential unconditional liberty, it's a waste of time talking to you at all. No other liberties survive without that one, more fundamental than property rights: if you don't own yourself absolutely, you own nothing.

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Barry Markson

(227 posts)
1. You'll own nothing and you'll be happy
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 10:37 AM
Apr 13

It's all part of the plan.

The phrase "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy" is from a 2016 video by the World Economic Forum (WEF) that summarizes an essay by Danish politician Ida Auken.

Celerity

(43,534 posts)
6. Fact check: The World Economic Forum does not have a stated goal to have people own nothing by 2030
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 11:04 AM
Apr 13
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2AP2SP/

A video repeating misinformation about the World Economic Forum (WEF) has been shared widely on Facebook. The three-minute clip, which has 862 likes and 1,100 shares at the time of writing, is captioned “Let's talk about the World Economic Forum's stated goals for 2030” with the title: “How we can stop them from stealing everything from us” (here). It features a man who says: “Now let's talk about their stated goal, ‘by 2030 you'll own nothing and be happy’. So, the question is, how do they get us to that point? How can over 10 years they get us from having private property to owning nothing?”

The WEF does not have a ‘stated goal’ to remove everyone’s private property by 2030. As addressed in previous Reuters fact checks, these claims likely originated from a WEF social media video from 2016 that stated eight predictions about the world in 2030, including: “You’ll own nothing. And you’ll be happy. What you want you’ll rent, and it’ll be delivered by drone.” (here) Danish politician Ida Auken, who wrote the prediction in question (here), said it was not a “utopia or dream of the future” but “a scenario showing where we could be heading - for better and for worse.” In a written update, she clarified that the piece aimed to “start a discussion about some of the pros and cons of the current technological development. When we are dealing with the future, it is not enough to work with reports. We should start discussions in many new ways. This is the intention with this piece.”

In the past, false claims about the WEF have been conflated with conspiracy theories about the United Nation’s ‘Agenda 30’ framework, which is a set of Sustainable Development Goals devised in 2015 at the United Nations General Assembly (sdgs.un.org/2030agenda). They are freely available on government websites and outline objectives like ending poverty, which includes the goal making property ownership available to all:

“By 2030, ensure that all men and women, in particular the poor and the vulnerable, have equal rights to economic resources, as well as access to basic services, ownership and control over land and other forms of property, inheritance, natural resources, appropriate new technology and financial services, including microfinance.”

VERDICT

False. The World Economic Forum does not have a stated goal to have people ‘own nothing and be happy’ by 2030. Its Agenda 2030 framework outlines an aim to ensure all people have access to ownership and control over land and other forms of property.

Irish_Dem

(47,432 posts)
2. If women do not own themselves what does that make them?
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 10:41 AM
Apr 13

If they are owned by the male power structure?

Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
13. A Trojan Horse
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 01:06 PM
Apr 13

presented as a prize by oligarchs to ignorant, lower income chauvinistic men and perhaps some women to salve their subconscious insecurities while diverting attention away from the suckers pockets being picked, and loss of freedom directly tied to women's loss of freedom.

I don't believe it to be a coincidence that Jim Crow and the Guilded Age were happening at the same time.

Thanks for the thread Irish Dem.


OAITW r.2.0

(24,610 posts)
3. Powerful Statement, right there.
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 10:43 AM
Apr 13

If they can diminish the rights of women, they can certainly diminish the rights of men.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
14. Yep, & if they can take away your choice to have an abortion they can take away your choice to not have one, too.
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 03:47 PM
Apr 13

But of course that would never happen.

People, the right, mostly, just don't think things through.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
8. Republicans are taking us back to the days where women were legal chattel, the personal property of men
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 11:45 AM
Apr 13

If they could take us back to the days of slavery, they would. This is their attempt to get as close to it as they can. Men would never tolerate this level of government regulation of their bodies. It's nothing less than tyranny.

nuxvomica

(12,444 posts)
9. There's no point in any other right without that one
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 11:53 AM
Apr 13

What good is the 1st Amendment if the government can cut out your tongue, or the 2nd if they can cut off your trigger finger? Dobbs opened the door, and opens it wide, to authoritarianism, and I gotta believe the founders wouldn't be okay with that.

Voltaire2

(13,175 posts)
10. He is correct but perhaps extending this analysis
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 12:05 PM
Apr 13

beyond healthcare rights would be interesting?

For example drug prohibitions, suicide, the fact that we are compelled to rent our time as wage laborers for a huge portion of our lives, the fact that we are penned into nation states with limited rights to travel, etc.

The absence of freedom is the standard human condition.

The Mouth

(3,164 posts)
11. If you think you 'own' your property, just don't pay your property taxes and find out you really don't
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 12:45 PM
Apr 13

You own *nothing* that you can't defend by force. It's all a sham.

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