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If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant: if we did not sometimes taste of adversity, prosperity would not be so welcome." -- Anne Bradstreer
I read some people's thoughts on how many maga people might be outside of the courtroom on Monday. They will be tiny orange buttons on a large paisley shirt that will pop off as the criminal trial of the former president gets underway once the jury is seated.There will be, of course, media coverage of the crowds that gather.
More important will be who is inside the courtroom. Obviously, the defendant, the lawyers on both sides, and Stormy Daniels. But there is more. Several people who the defendant despises will be seated in the audience, smiling at the defendant. A psychological profile of the defendant, focusing largely on his behaviors in court, suggest this will increase the chances of his acting out.
At first, this may be limited to when he leaves court, as well as his late night posts on the internet. But eventually he will have difficulty staying quiet when two of the witnesses take the stand to testify against him. We know his legal team will attack Cohen on cross-examination, but that will be more difficult with Ms. Hicks.
With both witnesses, the defendant will think they have betraued him, which increases the chances of his acting out. Add to that his fear of their testimony that supports the D.A.'s other evidence.
As always, the defendant has said he will testify. While the chances of this are remote, one can hope that he actually does. But the chances of his taking the witness stand are near zero. Thus, he will try to make a statement without ever taking the stand. The judge will deny this, until he has the right to speak at sentencing.
Now, I know some people are wondering if the documents case will be heard before the preliminary fights end and the main event (WW3) officially begins. Since the Las Vegas oddsmakers haven't addressed that question yet, I'll limit my comments to the document case.
I know that many good people question if Mr. Smith should try to have Judge Cannon removed. Her most recent response to Mr. Smith's filing concerning the "PRA defense" is viewed as evidence of her favoring the defendant -- who is not charged with violating the PRA. An associate told me that it is important to recognize that Cannon is "not the sharpest knife in her drawers." She suggested people think about the glaring error she made in her infamous jury questionaire.
Mr. Smith and his team, she said, always have charted every possible motion by the defendant's legal team, and every ruling that Cannon may make. More, they prepare an outline of their response options for every possibility. In order to be assured of a positive ruling from the 11th Circuit, they need more than her potentially giving the defendant a "PRA defense" once the trial is underway.
Hence, Mr. Smith will submit a motion in limine, requesting that Cannon not allow the defense to introduce evidence about the PRA. Cannon will deny the motion by late May. Then Mr. Smith goes to the 11th Circuit, which will overrule her, and may replace her on the case.
Saoirse9
(3,686 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 14, 2024, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)
I think I've told you before but if not I am telling you now. The documents case is like my personal vendetta against the squishy orange wimp (SOW for short).
My father was a career intelligence officer and if he had so much as left a single page from a single classified document out on his desk at the Pentagon overnight, even if by accident, he would have lost his security clearance, his job, and his pension.
We know that SOW sold intelligence to our enemies. I want him to be executed for this. I have zero patience for all these delays. Cannon needs to be charged with obstruction.
I thought it was important to share the knife quote.
The document case is #1 in my book. The attempt to overturn the election results is a very close second. And the Georgia case, as well.
Although many wish that one of these other cases -- especially the documents case -- were tried first, we are going to enjoy this week's trial once the jury is seated. There are documents the D.A. will introduce that the public is unaware of at this point. But the defendant is fully aware of them, which is why his defense team attempts to "delay" the trial. These documents will humiliate the defendant.
mopinko
(70,272 posts)duct tape the mf s mouth shut and tape his fat ass to the chair.
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)As I noted above, there are documents he knows will be introduced that he finds humiliating. He will do his best to distract.
mopinko
(70,272 posts)i sure hope they do.
Maybe they will have her identify it in a police line-up?
mopinko
(70,272 posts)please god dont tell me there r 4-5 men in nyc who cd pass.
Walleye
(31,086 posts)fierywoman
(7,698 posts)JoseBalow
(2,516 posts)H2O Man
(73,637 posts)Walleye
(31,086 posts)mopinko
(70,272 posts)took a pic, iirc.
Walleye
(31,086 posts)ShazzieB
(16,564 posts)Or would all that ugly orange-brown gunk he smears on there interfere with adhesion?
Easterncedar
(2,340 posts)You always make me think
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)I'm confident that we will have some satisfing entertainment during this trial. And I am fully confident in Mr. Smith's abilities.
lame54
(35,331 posts)The Beatles will always be relevant
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)I think that everyone should listen to the Beatles every day.
malaise
(269,225 posts)Let the spring cleaning begin. Bring out the disinfectant
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)I think that the D.A. is going to do just that!
erronis
(15,383 posts)It seems that even a non-AI algorithm and some pretty graphs/charts could show his decline into complete imbecility. Guessing he's about at 60% of his peak in his 30s (1970s).
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)My cousin plays chess with John McWhorter. Maybe I can ask him to do an update.
https://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/linguist-expert-trump-sounds-like-your-beer-swilling-uncle-1315606083641
birdographer
(1,358 posts)about him sitting there with the 12 jurors staring at him in judgement every time a witness testifies against him. Didn't I read somewhere that he wanted the jurors asked "Do you like Donald Trump?" Unless he catches one of them winking at him (and with luck many others would see it) or scratching their head with a thumbs up, or some other message, he will likely assume that in that city, none of them like him and they are eager to take him down. And they just keep staring. Expressionless. Staring and judging. Not liking what they see. I would think this would drive him nuts after the second day of it. He's used to a cheering audience wearing red hats and waving signs with his name on them while their faces express pure worship and awe.
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)in conversations with lawyers, they have all spoke about "likeability" in front of a jury. This includes, for example, a defense attorney attempting to be more likeable than the prosecutor, in order to connect with the jury. It includes attempts to make plaintiffs or defendants more likeable in civil trials. We see it in all participants in criminal trials, including witnesses.
It is never good to be the least likeable person in a trial. There are no advantages accrued in being that person.
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)or at which trial, but at some point, Trump will have to be dragged kicking and screaming from the courtroom. Any judge would be doing him a huge favor by having him observe the proceedings from an adjacent rubber room.
I'm reminded of what Vincent Bugliosi wrote about Susan Atkins near the end of his mostly true crime book ...... that he anticipated that at some future point, she would start screaming and not stop.
Bundbuster
(3,205 posts)He's been acting out every day of his execrable existence.
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)What were the chances of you posting the exact song I was listening to as I wrote the OP? (grin) Much appreciated!
Saoirse9
(3,686 posts)I remember that SOW met with Lavrov and publicly mentioned classified information. I didn't see this particular article back in 2017, someone just posted on Twitter and it reminded me that THIS HAPPENED:
Israel Defense Chief Appears to Confirm Trump Leaked Intel
https://apnews.com/general-news-4f410d7dd36d410d8fd55dcdb9fb0470
It was the first comment by a senior Israeli official on the matter. U.S. officials have said Trump shared Israeli intelligence in a meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.
Everything we needed to clarify with our friends in the United States was done, Lieberman said in an Army Radio interview. We made clarifications. He provided no further details, but touted unprecedented intelligence cooperation with Washington.
The scandal, which broke a week before Trump traveled to Israel as part of his first trip overseas in office, threatened to derail the visit. Trump said while visiting Israel this week that he didnt mention Israel by name in the meeting.
I never mentioned the word or the name Israel, Trump told reporters in a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday in Jerusalem. He appeared to inadvertently confirm that he shared classified Israeli intelligence with Lavrov and Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak on May 10.
Last week, Israeli officials downplayed the damage caused by the presidents disclosure of classified intelligence with senior Russian officials. Lieberman tweeted at the time that intelligence sharing with the U.S. remained strong.
Some former Israeli officials, however, expressed concern that the incident might cause a loss of faith between the two allies and reluctance by Israel to share information with the new administration.
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)In the years to come, we will witness the consequences of his sharing -- perhaps selling shares -- of other secret intelligence documents. This will play out on the global stage. It will never benefit our country.
Pinback
(12,171 posts)I look forward to whatever misery befalls him. May his humiliation be thorough and his ruination epic.
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)I've been having an interesting discussion with my older son about if the defendant is convicted in this and other criminal trials, will it reduce the number of people who would presently vote for him? Between that and some of the responses on this thread, I may have my next essay waiting to be outlined this evening.
I do think that the defendant will find this case the most humiliating. I like that.
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