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ms liberty

(8,590 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:27 AM Apr 18

"I'm a child of the 80's...I'm a Reagan Republican" it explains so much. Dude thinks he's Alex P Keaton

Maga Mike Johnson, playing Speaker of the House, sees himself as Alex P Keaton from 80's sitcom Family Ties. That explains his smarmy smirk and well, everything else about him except the faux religiosity.

Edited to add, Morining Joe showed a clip of him saying that a few minutes ago; no link. I was on the treadmill.

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"I'm a child of the 80's...I'm a Reagan Republican" it explains so much. Dude thinks he's Alex P Keaton (Original Post) ms liberty Apr 18 OP
The only reason that character even worked was Bettie Apr 18 #1
Just heard that in background... Wounded Bear Apr 18 #2
agree debm55 Apr 18 #11
Yes, and the 1980s are over, and Reagan's dead, so who cares? hatrack Apr 18 #3
OMG... this. FalloutShelter Apr 18 #8
Reagan was a shit - but he would made sure the Ukraine package passed. harumph Apr 18 #4
Fuck Reagan David__77 Apr 18 #5
Also a child of the 80s... sickened by the "greed is good" became the goal rather than the cautionary JT45242 Apr 18 #6
Speaking as a GenX'er MustLoveBeagles Apr 18 #17
All Christians are self-proclaimed NanaCat Apr 18 #19
"Greed Is Good" would also be an excellent title for the program, deliberate or not, among Reagan-Era Aristus Apr 18 #21
and seriously, what was so great about Raygun anyway.......always loved when a kennedy Apr 18 #7
He is just a child, full stop. Redleg Apr 18 #9
On a side note.... usedtobedemgurl Apr 18 #10
MAGA Mike Kid Berwyn Apr 18 #12
IIRC, Alex Keaton wasn't a religious whack job or a fascist or a nasty, rude hateful person. Crunchy Frog Apr 18 #13
No, Alex P Keaton wasn't anything like Maga Mike - but when he picures himself in his mind's eye ms liberty Apr 18 #15
The religiosity is not fake NanaCat Apr 18 #14
Yea, that's one of the important differences. ms liberty Apr 18 #16
Alex was a smarmy douchebag NanaCat Apr 18 #20
Virtually none of the republicans were back then. ms liberty Apr 18 #23
The 80s was about the time when money became predominant Uncle Joe Apr 18 #18
Reagan Republicans are Trump Republicans without the vulgarity and open fascism Caliman73 Apr 18 #22

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
1. The only reason that character even worked was
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:30 AM
Apr 18

because of Michael J Fox's charisma and because it was fiction. Someone should explain that to Speaker Moses.

Wounded Bear

(58,677 posts)
2. Just heard that in background...
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:30 AM
Apr 18

he has no idea how many of us look back on the Reagan era with, shall we say, less than fond memories. Most of us don't want to go back.

hatrack

(59,590 posts)
3. Yes, and the 1980s are over, and Reagan's dead, so who cares?
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:31 AM
Apr 18

Hate to harsh your nostalgia buzz, Creepy McYouthpastor, but Grow. The. Fuck. Up.

FalloutShelter

(11,875 posts)
8. OMG... this.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:42 AM
Apr 18

You have nostalgia for a political party that is about to nominate a rapist, traitor as its candidate for president.
Indeed… grow the fuck up.

harumph

(1,909 posts)
4. Reagan was a shit - but he would made sure the Ukraine package passed.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:33 AM
Apr 18

Mike Johnson and many of the MAGAs and fellow travelers like to hide their radical "tear it all down" opportunism by
associating themselves with Reagan.

JT45242

(2,283 posts)
6. Also a child of the 80s... sickened by the "greed is good" became the goal rather than the cautionary
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:41 AM
Apr 18

Gen X did not realize that Gordon Gecko and his ilk were the bad guys that we were supposed to stand against and instead largely embraced the greed and white grievances as we got older.

There was day that Gen Xers were scoff at how the Hippies changed and beacme the corporate yes men and ruiners of the world that they protested against in the 1960s. We never really protested... we just embraced greed and trickle down.

I went to a school with 485 kids in my graduating class (rich suburb of Cincinnati). 10 of us applied for the teachers union scholarship. I was the only one who ever made it to a classroom where I taught for 20 years (ironically, I was also the only one who didn't get money from the scholarship committee). Lots of doctors, financial folks, kids who moved into the family business...but not teachers.

The Boomers and Gen Xers have ruined the environment, funneled money to the richest of the rich, and undone 100 years of Progressive (as in the early 20th century political party) reforms.

They have voted for people who rolled back clean water act, clean air act, and child labor laws.

Apparently Maga Mike missed that part in the Bible "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." Not all the evil, but kinds of evil. I self proclaimed Christian should likely be embracing Mother Theresa or someone else who lived out the whole "feed the hungry, house the homeless, take care of the orphan, widow, and stranger" of Matthew 25. His hypocrisy makes me sick to my stomach.

NanaCat

(1,195 posts)
19. All Christians are self-proclaimed
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 01:01 PM
Apr 18

ALL. No exceptions. And it's not your job to decide if they're Christian or not, either. They don't think you're one, so should we listen to them? They have just as much backing up their assertion as you do yours, you know.

Also: Mother Teresa was evil. Why are you holding up someone who did NOTHING for the people she collected because she got off on watching the dying suffer? She didn't even give them pain medication to ease their agony, and instead watched them writhe in pain while she raked in millions from dictators and criminals. It certainly wasn't the kind of care she sought for herself. No, when it came to her illnesses, it was nothing but the best--flying on the private jets of dictators to get state-of-the-art care in California.

And, BTW: She received tens of millions of dollars in donations. Millions that would have gone much further in India than they would in the West. So why were her clinics unsanitary dumps with people sleeping on floors, from the day she opened her 'clinics' until the day that evil fascist died?

Shame on you for even thinking that monster was anyone worth a damn.

Aristus

(66,434 posts)
21. "Greed Is Good" would also be an excellent title for the program, deliberate or not, among Reagan-Era
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 01:19 PM
Apr 18

Republicans to make the American people dysempathetic, bitter, and perpetually aggrieved. I absolutely hate the fact that the repukes have turned the American people from a population of optimists, looking to the future, expecting a better tomorrow and a better way of life, into a mob of tired, overworked, underpaid, angry, suspicious, and resentful malcontents.

a kennedy

(29,690 posts)
7. and seriously, what was so great about Raygun anyway.......always loved when
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:42 AM
Apr 18

reporters would yell questions at him when leaving the Whitehouse, and he always give that hand signal of “can’t hear you to loud here”. I just hated that, don’t know why, he was old and probably couldn’t hear.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,143 posts)
10. On a side note....
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 10:13 AM
Apr 18

The actor who played him, Fox, was at Obama’s first inauguration. I saw him, with his wife, Val Kilmer and a boxer. I am sure there were more.

Crunchy Frog

(26,594 posts)
13. IIRC, Alex Keaton wasn't a religious whack job or a fascist or a nasty, rude hateful person.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 12:21 PM
Apr 18

He wasn't someone who rejected science or knowledge or education. He wasn't a smarmy asshole, and he never ever would have made himself a tool of the Kremlin.

I used to watch that show, and Johnson was no Alex Keaton, and I don't believe that Reagan would have even recognized him as a Republican, with his fealty to the Kremlin and the Evil Empire.

ms liberty

(8,590 posts)
15. No, Alex P Keaton wasn't anything like Maga Mike - but when he picures himself in his mind's eye
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 12:52 PM
Apr 18

That's who he sees himself as - a real life, grown-up version of the popular, cool character out of a sitcom from his childhood. It's a delusion, and it's also pretty revealing.
That he's nothing like Alex P Keaton was, or Michael J Fox was or is, is immaterial. None of today's Republicans are acting now like they were acting then because back then their antics of today would be universally condemned.

Uncle Joe

(58,385 posts)
18. The 80s was about the time when money became predominant
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 12:55 PM
Apr 18

over idealism in American T.V. culture as the corporate media in general conglomerated becoming essentially different flavors of corporate supremacy, while also removing the training wheels of the Fairness Doctrine.

Nixon's fall in the early 70s began the GOP disillusionment with the idea of democracy in reaching their unstated goals of furthering/maintaining corporate/oligarch supremacy.

Democracy in its' highest form could actually take the American People to an egalitarian society if those democratic ideals are based on sound moral judgment.

However if the governing social principle is just becoming wealthy for any society, the people will become more easily divided along cultural lines allowing corporate supremacists to laugh all the way to the bank....until a *rump comes along and exposes them for what they are.

Frauds posing as political leaders.

Thanks for the thread ms liberty

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
22. Reagan Republicans are Trump Republicans without the vulgarity and open fascism
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 01:32 PM
Apr 18

Let's go down the list or what Reagan Republicanism was and what it lead to:

1. Reagan held one of his first political rallies in Philadelphia Mississippi, the location of brutal backlash to the Civil Rights movement and the murder of 4 Civil Rights activists.

2. Reagan's campaign leaned HEAVILY on thinly veiled Racism with his "Welfare Queen" and "Young Buck's eating steak and lobster" rhetoric.

3. Reagan supposedly (was never definitively proven) went behind the back of the Carter Administration and made a deal with Iran, to interfere with negotiations to release the hostages once he was elected. For this, he supposedly agreed to sell Iran weapons, even as they were a, "state sponsor of Terrorism".

4. Reagan gave financial support and weapons ILLEGALLY to several brutal right wing regimes in Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Panama.

5. Reagan shifted the tax burden for society from the wealthy to the middle and working class, gutting the progressive tax code and blowing a hole in the budget. He had to raise fees and start taxing Social Security to avoid the worst effects of his scheme.

6. Reagan purposely ignored the AIDS epidemic because he and his administration deemed it the "gay cancer" and made moralistic decisions that lead to the deaths of millions because of his inaction.

7. Reagan's support of junk bonds and artificial inflation of stocks and overleveraging of assets to "play the market" lead to not one, but several monetary crises and scandals during the 80's .

8. Reagan tried to gut the New Deal and installed cabinet secretaries into positions where the appointed person HATED the department they worked for and wanted to destroy it.

There are many others. I am sure that the list would be super long. The point is, that Reagan seems "reasonable" compared to Trump because Reagan had actual skill and training as an actor and pitchman. Reagan had also been the Governor of California (where he did equally horrible things) so he had some political skill whereas Trump is just a schmuck who was born wealthy, lived a pointless life, and is a sociopath. Reagan was folksy and amiable where Trump is boorish and stupid. It is simply a difference in character and presentation with no real difference in ideology. Both Reagan and Trump exhibited bigoted and racist attitudes. They both have a hierarchical view of how society should be structured. They both support extremist right wing ideologies and leaders and opposed collectivist and egalitarian forms of government.

Nixon and Reagan were from an era of politics where rhetorical skill and some effectiveness as a policy maker were still required. They came from a world before DEDICATED right wing propaganda networks cowed the "liberal" media into legitimizing more extreme right wing ideas as "mainstream". If either Nixon or Reagan had Fox News and the associated supporting networks and internet presence, or Social Media, their presidencies would have been very different. In fact, the concept of Fox and right wing media, while in planning before Nixon, was really pushed and created in the wake of the Watergate scandal and resignation of Nixon. Roger Ailes, who was in the Nixon administration and wanted to never repeat what happened to Nixon (media holding the President to account for unethical and illegal behavior). While the right wing media ecosystem was still under construction during Reagan's presidency, he was skilled enough at PR to avoid the pitfalls of the less likeable Nixon. The point is, that both Nixon and Reagan had to exist in a period where their supporters still had to get actual, factual information from the media. There were limited outlets and everyone operated from the same set of facts, which had to be spun by the politician and their team.

All proceeding Conservative politicians from the mid 90's on, had a megaphone and an open spigot of lies designed to insulate and motivate a base of supporters to no longer accept verified information as fact. This has helped to create the extreme presentation of people like Trump, Greene, Boebert, etc... preceded by Gingrich, DeLay, Boehner, Ryan, and Paul. We have people who see the verbatim words and actions of a sociopath like Trump or grifters like Greene and Comer, and they deny reality, literally, they hear Trump say, "I would gladly club a baby seal and wear its pelt as a pocket square" and then either outright say, "That's fake" or they try to justify it in some way completely divorced from reality.

Johnson is trying to thread a needle that doesn't exist. He wants all the horrible things that Reagan started, that Trump stupidly says, but Johnson doesn't want the heat that Trump appears to enjoy. Johnson wants to operate like Reagan, doing horrible shit, but being seen as "folksy and decent".

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