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Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 02:09 PM Apr 24

Robert Reich on Columbia U

The most important thing I teach my students
And why Columbia’s faculty should issue a vote of no confidence in its president, Nemat Shafik

Apparently, Columbia University’s president, Nemat Shafik, does not share my view. Last week she prostrated herself before House Republicans, promising that she would discipline professors and students for protesting the ongoing slaughter in Gaza in which some 34,000 people have died, most of them women and children.

The following day she summoned the New York City Police Department to arrest more than 100 students who were engaging in a peaceful protest against it.

Can we be clear about a few things? Protesting this slaughter is not expressing antisemitism. It is not engaging in hate speech. It is not endangering Jewish students. It is doing what should be done on a college campus — taking a stand against a perceived wrong, at least provoking discussion and debate.


Read whole article here: [link:https://robertreich.substack.com/p/the-most-important-thing-i-teach|]
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Robert Reich on Columbia U (Original Post) Nanjeanne Apr 24 OP
K&R Doc Sportello Apr 24 #1
They won't listen. Nanjeanne Apr 24 #2
Yes, you are in good company Doc Sportello Apr 24 #3
Well I don't engage with many as it is completely hopeless. And some just repeat the same rhetoric that doesn't Nanjeanne Apr 24 #4
If he's against the war in Gaza he mus not be a REAL Jew....or something. Ping Tung Apr 24 #6
Bernie supporter? Nanjeanne Apr 24 #9
Just in case anyone missed this.... Think. Again. Apr 24 #5
Perhaps those who've called me a pro-Hamas antisemite will call Reich the same Orrex Apr 24 #7
Don't bet on it. Nanjeanne Apr 24 #8
The President Will Be Gone Soon NonPC Apr 24 #10

Doc Sportello

(7,529 posts)
1. K&R
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 02:14 PM
Apr 24

Deserves repeating and hopefully some will listen: "Protesting this slaughter is not expressing antisemitism. It is not engaging in hate speech. It is not endangering Jewish students."

Reich is another Jewish voice bringing honesty, compassion and values to the discussion.

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
2. They won't listen.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 02:34 PM
Apr 24

Seems to me that protesting slaughter is not expressing antisemitism.

Seems like weaponizing Jewish identity to justify genocide is the hate.

But then I'm going to be accused of being a self-hating Jew or something like Naomi Klein was. But hey I'm in great company with her, RR, Raz Siegal, Gideon Levy, Marion Ingram, Daniel Levy, Amira Hass and so many others.

Doc Sportello

(7,529 posts)
3. Yes, you are in good company
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 03:31 PM
Apr 24

I think I have learned my lesson that replying to people who are zealots with an agenda that benefits one group while denying the humanity of others is pointless. I have stayed out of this for the most part and may reply from time to time, but not often because it is as pointless as arguing with a fundie Christian. But I appreciate you and others who stand up to them against their own barrage of hate.

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
4. Well I don't engage with many as it is completely hopeless. And some just repeat the same rhetoric that doesn't
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 03:44 PM
Apr 24

incite dialogue. Others are just plain nasty and insulting to posts. But I happen to have had an interest in Israel/Gaza/peace way before Oct 7th and I do have a lot of history books, first person narratives and magazine articles on my shelves. This was personal to me in many ways. It's my way of honoring my two uncles who fought in the French resistence - one who was killed and the other maimed but lived to a good old age. And to the family I have in Israel who continued to work alongside Palastinian peace activists for a way forward for Israel to have real security. But then there are some who neither believe "my story" or have heard about my family ad nauseum and could care less about (so much for loving Israel and Israelis)!

Otherwise - I look to the great Mark Twain: “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

Ping Tung

(672 posts)
6. If he's against the war in Gaza he mus not be a REAL Jew....or something.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 04:15 PM
Apr 24

Anti-Semite? Quaker? Humanitarian? Peacenik? Progressive?



Think. Again.

(8,392 posts)
5. Just in case anyone missed this....
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 03:58 PM
Apr 24

"Can we be clear about a few things? Protesting this slaughter is not expressing antisemitism. It is not engaging in hate speech. It is not endangering Jewish students. It is doing what should be done on a college campus — taking a stand against a perceived wrong, at least provoking discussion and debate."
-Robert Reich

NonPC

(308 posts)
10. The President Will Be Gone Soon
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 04:40 PM
Apr 24

Her clownish behavior is not what will sink her, it will be the billionaires who start withholding donations. The Board will not stand for big dollar donations drying up. Mark my words.

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