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ancianita

(36,238 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:37 PM Apr 28

The 2024 DNC in Chicago? We are gonna kill it and the whole world will be watching!

Our convention is four months out. Why need we worry about the DNC in Chicago when it's just easier to get better informed about presidential security than David Brooks or PBS News Hour would prefer.

This post is derived from another thread re Brooks' PBS show, but this more accurate information bears repeating.

Remember, President Obama had a house IN Chicago during his first term, and returned home often enough for the City of Chicago, the Secret Service, FBI, Chicago PD, mayor and governor to have learned.

When President Joe Biden steps off Air Force 1, Obama with his own SS detail, and city and state leaders will be there in full force to greet him.

Our party chose Chicago over New York, Atlanta, and certainly Houston, because Chicago is the Midwests's Blue Wall for the Democratic Party.

Here is the general idea of the security plan. Chicago, being the nation's 2nd or 3rd largest city, will have law enforcement -- IL National Guard, FBI field people, the Cook Cty Sheriff Dept, IL Highway Patrol, and Chicago PD -- anywhere in its boundaries where operatives would want to create violent distractions.

Here's a neighborhood map of Chicago's United Center, site of the 2024 Democratic National Convention.
Per the linked CBS report from 10 days ago, here are immediate area plans to know.
The people who live within this map are familiar with what's required of them when presidents and their party come to Chicago.





https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-dnc-security-plan/#textThe20Secret20Service20will20operateand20Ashland20to20the20east

The buffer zone will be in place for nine days and it just so happens that stretch will include two Sundays, meaning services at eight nearby churches in the lockdown area could be affected.

The Secret Service will operate vehicle checkpoints and put up a gate at the United Center. The likely boundaries of the buffer zone are Maypole Avenue to the north, Jackson to the south, Leavitt to the west, and Ashland to the east.

Restrictions in the secure area include no guns, fireworks, bikes, scooters, tents and balloons. The city also said bicycles and dogs won't be allowed.

A Chicago police official said that policy is meant to protect residents from getting caught up in whatever demonstration activities will inevitably happen within the buffer zone.

CBS 2 asked people who work and live in the area what they think about the rules.

"So you think they're not even gonna let me use this field right here?" said Jawaan Jackson, a dog owner. "Alright, then it could be a slight inconvenience then if that's the case, for sure."...

DNC activities are also scheduled for McCormick Place, so a second city buffer zone will be established there. The anticipated boundaries are Cullerton Avenue to the north, 26th Street to the south, State to the west and just before DuSable Lake Shore Drive to the east.

The Chicago City Council approved an ordinance on Wednesday that allows Chicago police to create the security boundaries. The Secret Service said in a statement:

"The 2024 Democratic National Convention security plan is still being developed. The U.S. Secret Service, along with our local and federal partners, earlier this month went door-to-door contacting residents and businesses around the United Center and McCormick Place to gather community feedback that can be incorporated into the plan. A list of prohibited items has not been finalized. Specific maps that will include street closures, and parking restrictions are still evolving and will be released closer to the convention."

The Democratic National Convention will be held from Aug. 19 through Aug. 22.



Our president and party leaders will get national and international coverage! We are gonna kill it -- and the whole world will be watching!



Just to give an idea of the United Center's sound system -- our convention will be heard for a mile all around.




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The 2024 DNC in Chicago? We are gonna kill it and the whole world will be watching! (Original Post) ancianita Apr 28 OP
And it's in one of bamagal62 Apr 28 #1
What are people living there supposed to do with their dogs while the convention is going on? MichMan Apr 28 #2
They deal. They're cool. Seriously. They know what to do & I'm not going to look it up since I lived on the South Side. ancianita Apr 28 #5
If authorities told me I had to remove my dog from my home for several days, there is going to be a problem. MichMan Apr 28 #8
And where do you live? ancianita Apr 28 #9
Michigan MichMan Apr 28 #10
Well then, ancianita Apr 28 #11
haha....thank you for that.... bahboo Apr 28 #13
So all dogs inside the zone will have to be boarded outside the zone? DBoon Apr 28 #18
lol Puh-lease. Call Chicago PD's 311 and ask. I'm no micro expert, just a former resident of the city. ancianita Apr 29 #20
what difference does it make where they live? sorry but the dogs stay, it's their house too. dem4decades Apr 29 #27
Yeah, the ban of dogs is absolutely ridiculous. Ace Rothstein Apr 29 #30
Pro tip: Do NOT let Kristi Noem doggysit them. Celerity Apr 29 #23
they could have it at the white house...there is precedent nt msongs Apr 28 #3
Have what. It's a done deal. You realize that conventions are held in states, right? ancianita Apr 28 #6
If they haven't yet consider bans on drones. LiberalFighter Apr 28 #4
Pritzker's got that covered. More Democrats should get acquainted with Illinois' governor. ancianita Apr 28 #7
I must admit, I was quite skeptical of Pritzker. shrike3 Apr 29 #36
I hear ya. The way I look at the oligarchic class is, they're either part of the pro-democracy group, or the ancianita Apr 29 #37
There was a lot of grousing about Pritzker during the pandemic. shrike3 Apr 29 #38
Yeah I didn't know about that. But the grousing was probably by IL rethugs and amplified by corporate media there. ancianita Apr 29 #39
If it does, Joe will win. We just have to work hard. shrike3 Apr 29 #43
I posted this on FB. Thought you'd appreciate what it says about our Illinois Governor Pritzker. ancianita Apr 29 #42
Good politician and very likable. Compare that to Musk. shrike3 Apr 29 #44
Right?? ancianita Apr 29 #45
Mahalo for your Excellent OP! Cha Apr 28 #12
Careful, "kill it" jumped out at me. I know the metaphor is not anti-person, but people may die in the protests Bernardo de La Paz Apr 28 #14
LOL! Yeah, but hey, we're all friends here, right? So then what word would work better? ancianita Apr 29 #21
No worries. I'd probably say "knock it out of the park" or "nail it" or "do us proud" Bernardo de La Paz Apr 29 #24
Much appreciated. The comedy and music contexts are where I got the word from. ancianita Apr 29 #31
Repeat of DNC 1968? Devilsun Apr 28 #15
That's my worry. Anti Israel demonstrators are at every political event. 3Hotdogs Apr 28 #17
Not the same war. Not the same PD. Not the same mayor. Not the same governor. Not the same Secret Service, FBI, DOJ, and ancianita Apr 29 #22
Way To Go, Chicago! Joinfortmill Apr 28 #16
Even though I as your then potential City Rival as a NYC'r wanted it here...I wish Chicago all the best!... electric_blue68 Apr 28 #19
lemme know when u visit. i'll show u around. mopinko Apr 29 #26
Well, cool. Ty! If we're up for it probably won't be till ?'26 electric_blue68 Apr 29 #29
well, it's a great place to visit. mopinko Apr 29 #32
Ty. It's bc Chicago sounds like such an interesting city I want to visit. electric_blue68 Apr 29 #34
i honestly think it's the best city in the world. mopinko Apr 29 #35
thx for this thread. re- chgo cops mopinko Apr 29 #25
Ridiculous for anyone to equate 1968 and 2024! betsuni Apr 29 #28
Thanks for your thoughts, mopinko! Glad you live in and know Chicago! ancianita Apr 29 #33
As the saying goes, from your lips to god's ears. Then there's that whole bit about counting your chickens. elocs Apr 29 #40
I hear ya. Not bragging about the party convention, just informing those who doubt our party's abilities. ancianita Apr 29 #41

bamagal62

(3,277 posts)
1. And it's in one of
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:43 PM
Apr 28

The best cities in the world. Chicago rocks! I’ve lived in cities all over the world. Chicago and Tokyo are my favorites.

MichMan

(12,002 posts)
2. What are people living there supposed to do with their dogs while the convention is going on?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:54 PM
Apr 28
The city also said bicycles and dogs won't be allowed.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
5. They deal. They're cool. Seriously. They know what to do & I'm not going to look it up since I lived on the South Side.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:59 PM
Apr 28

This is a sports neighborhood on the West Side. It's like asking how people who live near airports put up with them.
I wouldn't make the perfect the enemy of the good when it comes to at scale events like this.
Since Obama, Chicagoans are proudly innovative. They've got this.

MichMan

(12,002 posts)
8. If authorities told me I had to remove my dog from my home for several days, there is going to be a problem.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:03 PM
Apr 28

The statement says all dogs in the zone are banned. Would I be required to board her somewhere else for the duration of the convention? Or go somewhere else with her until it is over. Either option might be expensive

MichMan

(12,002 posts)
10. Michigan
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:06 PM
Apr 28

Just commenting on the dog ban that was posted and how that would impact all dog owners in the zone.

Seems authoritarian and somewhat ridiculous.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
11. Well then,
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:25 PM
Apr 28

has there ever been a DNC convention in MI?
Sounds as if your "just commenting" on such an event's "dog owner impact" -- that it seems "somewhat ridiculous" to be limited by the security needs of this party's leaders and this president -- says more about you valuing your comfort than it does about real security needs for a national event looking authoritarian.
Something inconvenient isn't evidence of security precautions being authoritarian.





DBoon

(22,430 posts)
18. So all dogs inside the zone will have to be boarded outside the zone?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:45 PM
Apr 28

A dog owner couldn't just keep them inside or in their yard?

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
20. lol Puh-lease. Call Chicago PD's 311 and ask. I'm no micro expert, just a former resident of the city.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:08 AM
Apr 29

Ace Rothstein

(3,201 posts)
30. Yeah, the ban of dogs is absolutely ridiculous.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:10 AM
Apr 29

And likely a burden for anyone living in the exclusion zone.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
6. Have what. It's a done deal. You realize that conventions are held in states, right?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:01 PM
Apr 28

Why signal AT ALL to the opposition that they've cowed those who are smarter and tougher than them, right?

Have you seen Democrats in Chicago fight?

LiberalFighter

(51,389 posts)
4. If they haven't yet consider bans on drones.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:57 PM
Apr 28

Hopefully they have sufficient cameras monitoring activities in the streets and other areas.

shrike3

(3,884 posts)
36. I must admit, I was quite skeptical of Pritzker.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:11 AM
Apr 29

I thought, ANOTHER billionaire? I am happy to admit I was wrong.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
37. I hear ya. The way I look at the oligarchic class is, they're either part of the pro-democracy group, or the
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:43 AM
Apr 29

authoritarian power group. Pritzker is good friends with Gavin Newsom, and together, they're compelling leaders who act on good governance principles.

I miss living in IL with Pritzker as governor, being exiled down in FL with DeathSantis.

shrike3

(3,884 posts)
38. There was a lot of grousing about Pritzker during the pandemic.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:02 PM
Apr 29

But he was re-elected handily. Proving most Illinoisans are sane.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
39. Yeah I didn't know about that. But the grousing was probably by IL rethugs and amplified by corporate media there.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:10 PM
Apr 29

Yep, Illinoisans are sane, indeed. And hopefully, in 2024, the rest of the Midwest hangs with that bluest state.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,075 posts)
14. Careful, "kill it" jumped out at me. I know the metaphor is not anti-person, but people may die in the protests
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 10:58 PM
Apr 28

Everyone, except maybe some super-extremists or some provocateurs or some rogue cops, will be trying to avoid injuries and death. But it would not surprise me if there is violence that causes a death.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
21. LOL! Yeah, but hey, we're all friends here, right? So then what word would work better?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:10 AM
Apr 29

I'll use it, since I clearly see your academic point.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,075 posts)
24. No worries. I'd probably say "knock it out of the park" or "nail it" or "do us proud"
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:54 AM
Apr 29

It's not easy keeping everything in mind, and to not go to a sports metaphor every time! Headlines are particular tricky since "brevity is the mint of style". I consult a thesaurus (online or book) a few times a week. Thanks for taking my suggestion in good nature.

I am reminded of Nathaniel Hawthorne saying "The greatest possible mint of style is to make the words absolutely disappear into the thought." Little hiccups like the visual imaginings that can be triggered in the reader can cause them to stumble momentarily and bring the words to the front interrupting style.

For headlines, Shakespeare wrote "Brevity is the soul of wit". Unfortunately, this post is evidence I haven't achieved Shakespearean levels.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
31. Much appreciated. The comedy and music contexts are where I got the word from.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:39 AM
Apr 29

Comedians "kill it" when they get a standing ovation, and "killing me softly with his words" (Roberta Flack) is metaphoric in general.



Devilsun

(202 posts)
15. Repeat of DNC 1968?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:08 PM
Apr 28

Hopefully, the anti- war demonstrations will not be a repeat of the Democratic National Convention of 1968!!!

3Hotdogs

(12,469 posts)
17. That's my worry. Anti Israel demonstrators are at every political event.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:32 PM
Apr 28

'68 was described as a police riot. Cops are already brutalizing protestors at college campus encampments.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
22. Not the same war. Not the same PD. Not the same mayor. Not the same governor. Not the same Secret Service, FBI, DOJ, and
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:13 AM
Apr 29

not the same president. It won't happen that way at all. At all.

electric_blue68

(15,033 posts)
19. Even though I as your then potential City Rival as a NYC'r wanted it here...I wish Chicago all the best!...
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:50 PM
Apr 28

Thanks for all the descriptions. It sounds like with the reaching out to that area's residents they seem to be quite more concerned than Mayor Daley & Co ever was.

Chicago is one of 2 US cities that I still want to visit that I never have, though I"ve probably given up on Seattle.
(I have cities I'd like to revisit, too )

With the Obama's having lived there; I think they'd want to do them proud.

I won't (hopefully) visit until Obama's Presidential Library is completed, and open to the public. 👍

mopinko

(70,393 posts)
32. well, it's a great place to visit.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:40 AM
Apr 29

there’s tons of free/cheap stuff to do. pm and i’ll help u find a cheap place to stay.
u need less than u think.

electric_blue68

(15,033 posts)
34. Ty. It's bc Chicago sounds like such an interesting city I want to visit.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:48 AM
Apr 29

I'll keep my fingers crossed.👍🤞

mopinko

(70,393 posts)
35. i honestly think it's the best city in the world.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:07 AM
Apr 29

not that i’ve visited all of the competition, but i’ve traveled a fair amount. imho, it has everything nyc has w less of the bad shit. ie- we have alleys. they dont pick up the trash at 2 a.m.
a lot of ppl do live in apts, but i live in a hood w big yards. and it’s cheap, too, cuz it’s 1 of the most diverse hoods in the country. more brown ppl=lower housing prices. cuz systemic racism. le sigh. getting better, tho.
i think mke is to chgo as chgo is to nyc. it’s a nice little city, too. very much alike.

i wouldnt live anywhere else, w the exception of a small town in ireland.

mopinko

(70,393 posts)
25. thx for this thread. re- chgo cops
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:23 AM
Apr 29

pls remember 68 was a POLICE RIOT. this isnt 68. we just got a new citizen review board, and trust me, the mayor wd love to fire some bad cops. he’s got much more important things to do w the millions we pay out annually to those thugs.

we’ve got this. watermelon isis is, indeed, trying to drum up a big protest. they’ve already been told there will b no permits for demos inside the perimeter outlined here. they’ll get a permit for elsewhere. probably at a lakefront park, or in the loop.
we’ve been hearing ‘what about 68?’ since chgo was proposed as the site. every elected dem in.the.state has set their mind on it not being another 68. they have planned and planned to make sure there will not b another 68.

it’s not going to b another 68.

betsuni

(25,835 posts)
28. Ridiculous for anyone to equate 1968 and 2024!
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:46 AM
Apr 29

The both-sides-corrupt-capitalism-warmongers-status quo-Democrats-bad-don't-vote 2024 version to help Republicans win.

elocs

(22,652 posts)
40. As the saying goes, from your lips to god's ears. Then there's that whole bit about counting your chickens.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:58 PM
Apr 29

Those who brag, strut, and dance last brag, strut, and dance best. We will see, we will see.

ancianita

(36,238 posts)
41. I hear ya. Not bragging about the party convention, just informing those who doubt our party's abilities.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 01:38 PM
Apr 29

IMO, we stand behind the "Biden promise" to protect and strengthen democracy during his lifetime and beyond.

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