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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(8,254 posts)
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 04:52 AM Apr 30

'Give It to Me!': Angry Georgia Cop Follows Man Home, Tases Him, Breaks His Leg Because He 'Stole' An Officer's Ballpoin

victim plans lawsuit.

‘Give It to Me!’: Angry Georgia Cop Follows Man Home, Tases Him, Breaks His Leg Because He ‘Stole’ An Officer’s Ballpoint Pen During Traffic Stop

The bodycam footage shows the officer handing Bray the traffic citation and a pen to sign. After Bray signs the ticket, he keeps the pen and drives off.

The officer is heard yelling after Bray to give him his pen back.

“That mother (expletive). He stole my (expletive) pen!” the officer shouted in the video obtained by WSB-TV.

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The officer unholsters his Taser and points it at Bray. Moments later, the officer Tasers Bray while a deputy forces him to the ground.

“I can’t feel my leg bro,” Bray said as the deputy pinned him down.

Bray was arrested and taken into custody. Police charged him with obstruction and theft by taking.

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Bray told WSB-TV that his leg was broken in two places during the encounter and he’s still experiencing pain nearly five months after the night of that traffic stop.

https://atlantablackstar.com/2024/04/28/georgia-cop-follows-man-home-tases-him-breaks-his-leg-because-he-stole-pen/

Greenville Police Chief Wayne Frazier told reporters he reviewed the body camera footage, claiming the officers did nothing wrong to Bray.

“If he had complied, none of this would have happened,” Frazier said in an email. “Our SOP says verbal, hands-on, less lethal, and lethal, and he followed protocol."

An attorney representing Bray said his client plans on filing a lawsuit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/watch-white-cops-tase-black-man-break-his-leg-for-driving-off-with-pen/ar-AA1nS6j1
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'Give It to Me!': Angry Georgia Cop Follows Man Home, Tases Him, Breaks His Leg Because He 'Stole' An Officer's Ballpoin (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 30 OP
If THIS is standard North Shore Chicago Apr 30 #1
Oh, you sweet summer child... Shipwack Apr 30 #24
"If he had complied, none of this would have happened," Frazier said in an email. Oopsie Daisy Apr 30 #2
Are you saying he deserved a broken leg and pain usedtobedemgurl Apr 30 #20
Are you putting words into my mouth and inventing alternate meanings and interpretations? Oopsie Daisy Apr 30 #23
contrasted with this: BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 30 #25
To all your naysayers, just show 'em this... ret5hd Apr 30 #27
I remember this. EndlessWire Apr 30 #33
I imagine there's a lot to be added Torchlight Apr 30 #29
I'm sorry, this was abuse by an out-of-control cop. Their job is to de-escalate, not to taze anyone they can. Gore1FL Apr 30 #30
"That sums it up very well. Nothing more needs to be added." Gore1FL Apr 30 #31
Is it fascism yet? n/t malaise Apr 30 #3
No. Oopsie Daisy Apr 30 #4
Yes Solomon Apr 30 #12
"If he had complied" ActRaiser Apr 30 #5
And it probably wasn't even the cop's pen. Supplied by the government. Paid for by taxpayers. Solomon Apr 30 #17
Or swiped from a hotel! A HERETIC I AM Apr 30 #36
Watch the video. Ms. Toad Apr 30 #18
It's being justified right here by lower downs. Voltaire2 Apr 30 #26
And higher up obamanut2012 Apr 30 #38
Seems to be a bit of an anger issue. Nt Biophilic Apr 30 #6
In contrast to all the crimes Trump has committed and is handled with kid gloves. Irish_Dem Apr 30 #7
It Was A PEN! ProfessorGAC Apr 30 #8
Professor........ MyOwnPeace Apr 30 #32
Yes, the cop's reaction was hardly proportional PatSeg Apr 30 #35
Paying lawsuits out of police pension funds would stop a lot of this. rubbersole Apr 30 #9
roid rage? Blues Heron Apr 30 #10
we need all these rageaholics to p in the cup. mopinko Apr 30 #14
Jesus Christ people. He didn't steal the fucking pen! That's a cop narrative. Probably didn't even know he had it. Solomon Apr 30 #11
i cant tell u how many times i've 'stolen' someone's pen, or tried to. mopinko Apr 30 #15
Watch him wave the pen of the window, Ms. Toad Apr 30 #19
Yes I see that. Thank you. Doesn't justify what the cops did. Solomon Apr 30 #21
Absolutely no justification. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 30 #22
System working as designed. FTP. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 30 #13
Indeed. Solomon Apr 30 #16
I hope he sues the cop and the police chief. I'm sure there are good lawyers who will want to take on this case. Doodley Apr 30 #28
My brother was arrested for something EndlessWire Apr 30 #34
"Mervis, aintcha gonna git yer pin (Southern for pen) back?" Aristus Apr 30 #37
ACAB aocommunalpunch Apr 30 #39

Shipwack

(2,193 posts)
24. Oh, you sweet summer child...
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 09:16 AM
Apr 30

You think they actually need a valid excuse before doing violence to someone.

Besides, "did not comply" is often a manufactured excuse. Two or more officers will shout contradictory commands, making it impossible to comply withe everyone.

"Put your hands above your head/Don't move/Put your weapon on the ground!"
"He's not complying!"
[Tazing/baton beatdown/gunfire ensues, in no particular order]

Oopsie Daisy

(2,951 posts)
2. "If he had complied, none of this would have happened," Frazier said in an email.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 05:58 AM
Apr 30

Last edited Tue Apr 30, 2024, 06:36 AM - Edit history (1)

That sums it up very well. Nothing more needs to be added.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,163 posts)
20. Are you saying he deserved a broken leg and pain
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 08:39 AM
Apr 30

Over a $1 pen? Not that the cop just could have gone on his merry way without hurting the man? You think it is rational if you take a pen that you need medical treatment?

Oopsie Daisy

(2,951 posts)
23. Are you putting words into my mouth and inventing alternate meanings and interpretations?
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 09:02 AM
Apr 30

Are you saying that disobeying lawful commands and fleeing before having been released is rational?

Please. Just stop. It's his own fault. He resisted and that's what happens when someone resists.

ret5hd

(20,600 posts)
27. To all your naysayers, just show 'em this...
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:05 PM
Apr 30

to prove your point:



right? right? hey, where’d ya’ go???

EndlessWire

(6,612 posts)
33. I remember this.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 01:37 PM
Apr 30

What was that guy supposed to do, being told to get his ID out, having warned them he had a legal carry gun, and then gets massacred, shot not once but many times. I don't know what I would have done. You can't refuse to show an ID like that. Cops scare the crap outta me. I was surprised the cop didn't shoot the girlfriend and the kid, too.

Torchlight

(3,502 posts)
29. I imagine there's a lot to be added
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:42 PM
Apr 30

context, detail, and dialogue among that.

One might suppose there are many parents, such as the mother of Tyre Nichols who would perceive the assertion "That sums it up very well. Nothing more needs to be added" as both without merit and dangerously naive.

Gore1FL

(21,212 posts)
30. I'm sorry, this was abuse by an out-of-control cop. Their job is to de-escalate, not to taze anyone they can.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:44 PM
Apr 30

Felony pen stealing isn't a thing. Neither is stalking a person to their home. I hope the officer involved loses their qualified immunity and gets sued right along with the department and the city of Greenville.

Gore1FL

(21,212 posts)
31. "That sums it up very well. Nothing more needs to be added."
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:47 PM
Apr 30

Is what cops say when they are covering for their egregious mistakes.

ActRaiser

(39 posts)
5. "If he had complied"
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 06:37 AM
Apr 30

He had driven away at the time that the cop was yelling and very likely either didn't notice or was really shook and just wanted to get out of there. Why is this sort of insane overreaction always justified by the higher ups?

I understand the need for compliance in a dangerous situation- the point,however, is supposed to be to DE-escalate, not to make it worse. And really, how goddamned broken are you that you need to hunt someone down because he accidentally took your fucking pen?

Ms. Toad

(34,164 posts)
18. Watch the video.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 08:29 AM
Apr 30

He waves the pen outside the window just after the officer yells, "Give me my pen.". Pretty clear he knew he had it.

That in no way justified what follows.

ProfessorGAC

(65,570 posts)
8. It Was A PEN!
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 07:23 AM
Apr 30

Just chalk it up as a mistake, don't follow the guy, stop at 7-11 & get another pen, go back to station & ask for petty cash to cover the pen.
Nobody gets hurt.
It was just a ballpoint pen. What purpose is served by escalating this? Answer; there is none.
The cop had a rage event. Over a pen.

MyOwnPeace

(16,959 posts)
32. Professor........
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:51 PM
Apr 30

Read some of the previous posts.

It seems that we have a few here that need to, at the very least, audit a class/lecture from you........

PatSeg

(47,823 posts)
35. Yes, the cop's reaction was hardly proportional
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 01:52 PM
Apr 30

I can't imagine him overreacting that way if the driver was white, though I suppose it is possible.

Too many people do not have the temperament to be a cop, unfortunately a lot of them get hired for the job.

mopinko

(70,442 posts)
14. we need all these rageaholics to p in the cup.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 08:04 AM
Apr 30

i suspect roids in a lot of these cases. buffed up guy who dont spend all day in the gym r so sus, and shd b treated that way.
if it’s not roids, chances r it’s something else. coke wd b my 1st guess, but there’s always meth.
random drug tests shd b sop, but drug tests after a use of force violation shd b fed law.

wd b nice to drug test congress, too.

Solomon

(12,327 posts)
11. Jesus Christ people. He didn't steal the fucking pen! That's a cop narrative. Probably didn't even know he had it.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 07:36 AM
Apr 30

Last edited Tue Apr 30, 2024, 08:19 AM - Edit history (1)

It's like pavlov's dog response people have when the so-called "perpetrator" is black. "All he had to do is comply". That's what he did when he signed and accepted the fucking ticket.

If he didn't intend to take something given to him, then he didn't steal anything. What the fuck! I'm so sick of this shit. Too bad the money he's going to get comes from citizens and not the sick fucking cops who did this.

mopinko

(70,442 posts)
15. i cant tell u how many times i've 'stolen' someone's pen, or tried to.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 08:06 AM
Apr 30

if it’s a mont blanc your momma gave u, this might b justified. but for a freakin bic, which u likely got from a supply cabinet, oh hell no.

Ms. Toad

(34,164 posts)
19. Watch him wave the pen of the window,
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 08:34 AM
Apr 30

In response to the officer yelling, "give me my pen"

He knew he had it

BUT that does not justify the subsequent behavior by the officer.

Doodley

(9,192 posts)
28. I hope he sues the cop and the police chief. I'm sure there are good lawyers who will want to take on this case.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:32 PM
Apr 30

EndlessWire

(6,612 posts)
34. My brother was arrested for something
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 01:46 PM
Apr 30

for which he did not get charged. The cops policy is to let people out close to midnight. They broke his leg in two places, then let him out at midnight in a downtown area with no transportation. I had to drive around looking for him, then when I found him, I drove him to an ER for treatment. My personal experiences with cops through family members has not been good. My brother was white, but he was 6'5", 250 something, so they were afraid of him. Breaking his leg seemed like a control method.

Aristus

(66,587 posts)
37. "Mervis, aintcha gonna git yer pin (Southern for pen) back?"
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 04:34 PM
Apr 30

"Naw, got a whole boxxa them in m'desk at the station."

Atrocity averted...

Goddamned stupid-ass pigs and their gun-crazed rage-riots...

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