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Zorro

(15,766 posts)
Wed May 1, 2024, 01:21 PM May 1

DeSantis says 'take your fake meat elsewhere' and signs bill banning lab-grown meat

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis wants to "save our beef."

At a press conference in Wauchula, Florida, DeSantis signed a bill that would outlaw the manufacture and distribution of lab-grown meat in the state, a "threat" to Florida's agriculture, he said.

"Take your fake lab-grown meat elsewhere. We're not doing that in the state of Florida," DeSantis said before he signed SB 1084, which he touts as the first-in-the-nation law to protect farmers and the "integrity of American agriculture."

DeSantis made fun of liberal elites who advocate for "fake meat" as a way to combat climate change.

"They will say that you can't drive an internal combustion engine vehicle. They'll say that agriculture is bad. Meanwhile, they're flying to Davos in their private jets," DeSantis said.

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/politics/2024/05/01/gov-ron-desantis-signs-lab-grown-meat-ban-in-florida/73525706007/

Such a petty little asshole...

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DeSantis says 'take your fake meat elsewhere' and signs bill banning lab-grown meat (Original Post) Zorro May 1 OP
Lab grown meat? Is there really a thing? jimfields33 May 1 #1
It is a thing. Cuthbert Allgood May 1 #3
Yes it is real Darwins_Retriever May 1 #6
I just wonder if it will cause some crazy disease. We've been convinced other things were safe but weren't. jimfields33 May 1 #13
how is this remotely related to baby powder? NoRethugFriends May 1 #20
Everyone thought it was safe. They were wrong. jimfields33 May 1 #22
Grown in a lab, it'd be far less likely to be infected with anything than meat from a animal muriel_volestrangler May 1 #23
Actually you made a good point. jimfields33 May 1 #29
He is a lab-grown MOMFUDSKI May 1 #15
Lab-Grown Meat Approved for Sale: What You Need to Know Celerity May 1 #25
The crap is the highly processed lab grown "meat". n/t elocs May 1 #28
So he's anti capitalism? Johonny May 1 #2
It's meat ... VMA131Marine May 1 #4
Your last sentence might better read: misanthrope May 1 #11
Won't survive a court challenge yellowcanine May 1 #5
Costco is selling the stuff. That horse has left the stable. comradebillyboy May 1 #7
I assume Costco is selling cow... tinrobot May 1 #21
Desperate DeSantis Easterncedar May 1 #8
The difference between lab meat and farm meat? Marthe48 May 1 #9
They just covered this on The Weather Channel ScratchCat May 1 #10
And I bet he calls himself a free market captialist. Renew Deal May 1 #12
Hocking untested dick pills is okay TheRealNorth May 1 #16
No person should have this kind of power superpatriotman May 1 #14
Yep, I'm flying in my private jet, ahole ExciteBike66 May 1 #17
GOP Cancel Culture BoRaGard May 1 #18
his tough guy act is tiresome BlueWaveNeverEnd May 1 #19
Most of the voters in Florida seem to like it. Mariana May 1 #24
I'm speaking for myself. BlueWaveNeverEnd May 1 #31
What he is really saying is... walkingman May 1 #26
"let the free market decide!" Takket May 1 #27
Sorry but I have a dirty mind. SarahD May 1 #30

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,016 posts)
3. It is a thing.
Wed May 1, 2024, 01:34 PM
May 1

It's about replicating cells so that it's actually meat without the animal rights issues (and environmental impact like water usage and deforestation).

It is just an industry that is starting and only really of importance to some vegetarians, so it's an easy punching down to get his dumb ass base all in a knot for nothing.

Darwins_Retriever

(866 posts)
6. Yes it is real
Wed May 1, 2024, 01:42 PM
May 1

Take some cells from a cow or a chicken or a pig and you can grow meat. It integrates well with vertical farming. Grow veggies and fruit in a high rise building. Just imagine being able to feed everybody when growing outside gets limited due to weather. You can reduce chemical use and water.

jimfields33

(16,314 posts)
13. I just wonder if it will cause some crazy disease. We've been convinced other things were safe but weren't.
Wed May 1, 2024, 02:20 PM
May 1

Of call thing baby powder ended up dangerous. I think companies play with our lives and we let them.

jimfields33

(16,314 posts)
22. Everyone thought it was safe. They were wrong.
Wed May 1, 2024, 04:16 PM
May 1

Everyone thinks lab made neat is fine, but……how will it end?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,454 posts)
23. Grown in a lab, it'd be far less likely to be infected with anything than meat from a animal
Wed May 1, 2024, 04:42 PM
May 1

that lived, crapped, associated with other animals, and so on.

Celerity

(43,951 posts)
25. Lab-Grown Meat Approved for Sale: What You Need to Know
Wed May 1, 2024, 07:02 PM
May 1


Cultured meat, grown from real animal cells, will soon be available in restaurants in San Francisco and Washington, D.C.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lab-grown-meat-approved-for-sale-what-you-need-to-know/



JUNE 30, 2023

At long last, a sandwich made with lab-grown chicken may be on the menu—at least if you live in the U.S. Last week the U.S. Department of Agriculture granted its first-ever approval of cell-cultured meat produced by two companies, GOOD Meat and UPSIDE Foods. Both grow small amounts of chicken cells into slabs of meat—no slaughter required. It was the final regulatory thumbs-up that the California-based companies needed in order to sell and serve their products in the U.S. The approval comes less than a year after the Food and Drug Administration declared the companies’ products safe to eat, and it represents a major milestone for the burgeoning cultured meat industry. But it doesn’t mean lab-grown steaks will be hitting supermarket shelves tomorrow. For now, both companies have been given the go-ahead to sell strictly chicken products at a select handful of restaurants. They’ll need additional approval to market cell-cultivated beef, pork or seafood.

Around 90 percent of the U.S. population eats meat regularly. But a growing number of Americans harbor concerns about the current meat industry’s environmental impact, which accounts for about 14.5 percent of global carbon emissions. Massive livestock operations can also be breeding grounds for harmful antibiotic-resistant bacteria. What’s more, they generate tons of waste and can pollute local waterways with nutrient runoff from manure. And the animals themselves often live relatively short lives, confined to cramped cages and standing in their own filth. “We think the current way of producing meat is at the very tip of the spear of all these harms,” says GOOD Meat CEO Josh Tetrick. Still, people are drawn to eating meat for a variety of reasons, such as cultural significance and tradition or its nutritional value as a protein source—not to mention its taste. Cultured meat companies, which bill themselves as sustainable and cruelty-free, hope their products will offer a way for meat lovers to enjoy a juicy burger or fried chicken with a clean conscience. “I put myself in that category,” says Amy Chen, COO of UPSIDE Foods. “We call ourselves ‘conflicted carnivores.’”

A lab-grown chicken nugget starts the classic way: with an egg. Food scientists sample stem cells from a fertilized chicken egg and then test the cells for resilience, taste, and the ability to divide and create more cells. Next the scientists can freeze the best cell lines for future use. When it’s time to start production, food scientists submerge the cells in a stainless steel vat of nutrient-rich broth containing all the ingredients cells need to grow and divide. After a few weeks, the cells begin to adhere to one another and produce enough protein to harvest. Finally, the scientists texturize the meat by mixing, heating or shearing it—GOOD Meat uses an extruder—and press it into nugget or cutlet shape. The overall production process is relatively simple, says Vítor Santo, GOOD Meat’s cell agriculture director. “The biggest challenge right now is definitely building the manufacturing capacity,” he says. UPSIDE Foods’ COO, Amy Chen, concurs. “Industrial farming has had a head start,” she says. But now that both companies have USDA and FDA approval, they can start to build up the infrastructure to cultivate enough meat to ship products across the U.S.

For now, their cultured chicken will only be available in a couple of restaurants. Bar Crenn, a Michelin-starred restaurant in San Francisco, will serve UPSIDE Foods. And celebrity chef José Andrés, a member of GOOD Meat’s board of directors, will serve the company’s cultured chicken at one of his restaurants in Washington, D.C. Until cultured meat is produced on a larger scale, its proposed environmental benefits remain untested. “The presumption—and I say ‘presumption’ carefully—is that, yes, you’ll have a more sustainable food production system,” says David Kaplan, a bioengineer at Tufts University. Cultured meat production facilities, at the very least, will consume drastically less land and water than traditional agriculture and directly emit fewer greenhouse gases, though their total eventual carbon footprint at a mass-production scale is unclear. Sustainability plus flavor is a promise that plant-based protein companies, such as the meatless juggernaut Impossible Foods, have been trying to deliver for nearly a decade. While these products have gained popularity—and landed on fast-food menus—they haven’t seen the level of adoption the industry had been hoping for. Cell-cultivated meats could help bridge that gap. “Ultimately, we think people will be more likely to switch if the product is actually meat,” Tetrick explains.

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Johonny

(21,035 posts)
2. So he's anti capitalism?
Wed May 1, 2024, 01:31 PM
May 1

If lab meat isn't good the free market would defeat it, right? Socialist Ron wants big government to decide winners and losers. Sounds like communism to me.

VMA131Marine

(4,162 posts)
4. It's meat ...
Wed May 1, 2024, 01:40 PM
May 1

But without all the fat, antibiotics, growth hormones, etc you get in “real” meat.

And you don’t have to kill an animal to get it.

misanthrope

(7,441 posts)
11. Your last sentence might better read:
Wed May 1, 2024, 01:57 PM
May 1

"You don't have to create misery to get it." Even beyond the terror of the slaughterhouse, so many of the creatures we consume lead a terrible existence prior to being killed.

Marthe48

(17,191 posts)
9. The difference between lab meat and farm meat?
Wed May 1, 2024, 01:48 PM
May 1

Employees in labs wear lab coats. Employees in meat processing plants wear hazmat suits.

ScratchCat

(2,036 posts)
10. They just covered this on The Weather Channel
Wed May 1, 2024, 01:51 PM
May 1

And I couldn't tell if they were being serious of mocking him. They read his whole QAnon-sounding statement about "lab grown meat" being part of the global elite's plan to enslave us and everything. It caught me as odd.

walkingman

(7,741 posts)
26. What he is really saying is...
Wed May 1, 2024, 07:13 PM
May 1

Don't you dare do anything to combat Climate Change in my State. I suspect that the same thing will follow in Texas. It is not really about the meat at all and most people have never even tasted lab grow meat.

For people like this I hope they are the first victims of the inevitable disaster to our planet's ecosystems. But as usual, they will claim decades from now that they "just didn't realize it would get this bad". A political message similar to what Reagan did when he removed the solar panels from the WH after President Carter had them installed.

Sorry bastards.

SarahD

(1,395 posts)
30. Sorry but I have a dirty mind.
Wed May 1, 2024, 08:05 PM
May 1

His obsession with meat and the way he talks about it makes me think porno thoughts. He is waaaay too intense when he does his meat rants.

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