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RandySF

(60,549 posts)
Mon May 13, 2024, 03:35 PM May 13

Ninth Circuit finds that convicted felons also have Second Amendment rights

LOS ANGELES (CN) — A Ninth Circuit panel Thursday ruled that a blanket prohibition on convicted felons possessing firearms violates their Second Amendment rights, at least when it comes to nonviolent offenders who served out their sentence.

In a split decision, the three-judge panel threw out firearm possession conviction of a Los Angeles member of a street gang who had five prior felony convictions and was later sentenced to 51 months in federal prison for being a “felon-in-possession.”

Writing for the majority, U.S. Circuit Judge Carlos Bea, a George W. Bush appointee, said the landmark 2022 U.S. Supreme Court decision in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen requires that the government shows that there is a historical tradition that supports the categorical prohibition on defendants such as Steve Duarte possessing a firearm.

This, according to the judge, the government failed to do because there was no analogous law at the time of the Founding Fathers that someone like Duarte would have been deprived of their right to bear arms. In fact, the judge said, his offenses would have been considered misdemeanors rather than felonies or not even have existed at all in the 18th and 19th centuries.





https://azmirror.com/2024/05/13/ninth-circuit-finds-that-convicted-felons-also-have-second-amendment-rights/

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getagrip_already

(15,176 posts)
2. Yeah, im sure skimming credit cards, or identity theft, or check kiting.....
Mon May 13, 2024, 03:40 PM
May 13

Weren't really crimes back then.

So why prosecute them now?

getagrip_already

(15,176 posts)
10. Whippings, stocks, woman cant own property
Mon May 13, 2024, 04:25 PM
May 13

Or enter into contracts.

I'm sure there are a lot of simply anachronistic laws as well.

Blues Heron

(5,978 posts)
4. I cant wrap my brain around not being able to update our laws from the 18th century.
Mon May 13, 2024, 03:45 PM
May 13

Its a little bonkers.

5. Gee, flintlocks for everyone
Mon May 13, 2024, 03:51 PM
May 13

Using that logic, why don't these originalist judged go back to the original guns of that time. Black powder guns are readily available today. My brother often hunts during black powder season. He says its very interesting and challenging.

Irish_Dem

(49,110 posts)
6. US judges have lost their damn minds.
Mon May 13, 2024, 03:52 PM
May 13

We don't live in the 18th or 19th century.

Our founding fathers did not dream of the day where good men, women and children would
be slaughtered on a weekly basis with military grade weapons.

When will the judiciary work for We The People?

When will they stop the bloodshed?

The judiciary is complicit in murder.

They are supposed to work for the people.

LeftInTX

(26,032 posts)
9. "We do not base our decision on the notion that felons should not be prohibited from possessing firearms"
Mon May 13, 2024, 04:24 PM
May 13

"I'm not saying that they're aliens, but it was aliens"


What a BS decision....
Referring to 18th and 19th century crimes...

Grins

(7,310 posts)
12. Bruen strikes again! Bruen is why Hunter Biden should not worry.
Mon May 13, 2024, 05:26 PM
May 13

And who does he have to thank for Bruen??

Clarence Thomas!

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