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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCHP isn't supposed to aim less-lethal munitions at protesters' heads and fire into crowds. It did at UCLA
https://calmatters.org/justice/2024/05/ucla-protest-palestine-police/Just before 4 oclock on Thursday morning, three CHP Special Response Teams with batons formed a skirmish line outside Royce Hall at UCLA. Some officers behind and next to them carried shotguns loaded with beanbag rounds or 40mm launchers with sponge rounds, less-lethal munitions referred to as a pain compliance device by its manufacturer.
A review of CalMatters video from inside the encampment documented at least 25 instances in which those officers appeared to aim their weapons at the eye level of protesters or fired them into crowds that didnt appear to present an immediate threat to life or serious injury. In some instances, the officers approached kneeling protesters with the launchers aimed at point-blank range.
Law enforcement officers across the state are trained that these types of munitions shall not be aimed at the head, neck or any other vital organs, according to guidelines from California Commission on Peace of Officers and Standards Training. We do not train to point at peoples heads unless its a deadly force situation, said Travis Norton, a retired police lieutenant who developed a course on the use of less-lethal weapons for the commission.
Quick, more money for training!!1!!11!1!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!
malaise
(270,320 posts)Rec
RockRaven
(15,263 posts)hardly more than a street gang with near total immunity.
TexasDem69
(2,026 posts)A single officer enacted violence by firing multiple beanbags into a crowd. Thats it unless I missed something
PufPuf23
(8,944 posts)A CalMatters review documented at least 25 instances in which officers appeared to aim their weapons at the eye-level of pro-Palestinian protesters or fired them into crowds.
CalMatters is excellent about all things California.
There are pictures of 11 instances by the minute of CHP actions at the link and a link to video taken by CalMatters.
https://calmatters.org/justice/2024/05/ucla-protest-palestine-police/
from the CalMatters link:
In 2021, California outlawed the practice of shooting less-lethal munitions at people merely to disperse them, after their use caused serious injuries during demonstrations in the wake of George Floyds murder. The law restricts officers from using them except when there is a threat to life or serious bodily injury.
In response to CalMatters questions, CHP Director of Communications Jamie Coffee said that officers did indeed face a threat from protesters. When certain demonstrators in the unlawful assembly became assaultive and posed an immediate threat to officers by launching objects and weapons, some officers used kinetic specialty rounds to protect themselves, other officers, and members of the public, she said.
Protesters do not appear to attack or threaten the CHP officers in the videos recorded by CalMatters, including the same videos in which police are seen aiming or firing less-lethal munitions. No battery or assault charges have been announced against protesters.
TexasDem69
(2,026 posts)Nobody was injured and a lot of the complaints were about aiming at folks, not actually firing beanbags at them. Even the article says nothing appeared problematic, other than one officer who fired three beanbags in quick succession. Hardly Kent State. Quote from the article about the single officer who apparently used too many bean bags:
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,656 posts)Thanks for posting what really happened, the OP makes it seem like all the troopers were firing into the crowd when in fact that's not the case at all.
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Silent Type
(3,380 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,684 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,656 posts)but your thread makes it seem like all the troopers were either pointing or firing their less than lethal weapons at the protesters when that's not the case at all.
Jedi Guy
(3,302 posts)TexasDem69
(2,026 posts)The article plainly states that the aiming issue relates to internal training guidance. It goes on to state that a single officer might have violated the law by firing beanbags into a crowd, but that is disputed. So no, nobody is arguing that police can break the law. I imagine you know that.
Mopar151
(10,036 posts)Shot a beanbag round at their "de-escalation" trainer, hit him in the groin. Hurt him badly, he may be permanently disabled! (IIRC). Kalifornia Kriminal. Kops have some seriously bad history regarding protestors, or just regular people! Remember - the man who wrote this was from LA, He Knew!
(some of those who work forces, are those who burn crosses....)
TexasDem69
(2,026 posts)But I doubt these same police are the subject of that song.
Mopar151
(10,036 posts)The answer is Way Too Many!
Mopar151
(10,036 posts)Shot a beanbag round at their "de-escalation" trainer, hit him in the groin. Hurt him badly, he may be permanently disabled! (IIRC). Kalifornia Kriminal. Kops have some seriously bad history regarding protestors, or just regular people! Remember - the man who wrote this was from LA, He Knew!
(some of those who work forces, are those who burn crosses....)