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francolettieri

(182 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:38 PM Nov 2012

Super Ramen Noodles to the rescue??

Ramen Noodles taste descent and are super cheap, but they are not healthy and have no nutrition. I was wondering if its technologically feasible to make a sustainable descent tasting product that can be eaten constantly and will be nutritious/ beneficial for human health and is almost as cheap as ramen noodles for the sake of battling hunger/poverty.

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Super Ramen Noodles to the rescue?? (Original Post) francolettieri Nov 2012 OP
Its technologically feasible, but sadly, since it's not profitable no one will do it. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #1
Quinoa noodles? Flatpicker Nov 2012 #2
Absolutely. A delicious superfood. zonkers Nov 2012 #4
Quinoa: The Dark Side of an Andean Superfood FrodosPet Nov 2012 #18
ooo interesting, ty for the articles stuntcat Nov 2012 #20
My understanding Flatpicker Nov 2012 #21
It looks like that is already on the way. There are a lot of spanish-language articles about it, HiPointDem Nov 2012 #30
It is so hard to imagine every aspect of a situation. So many different zonkers Nov 2012 #23
I like Ramen noodles. Lasher Nov 2012 #3
I think they have 10 times the daily recommended amount of sodium in them. madinmaryland Nov 2012 #12
they aren't, so long as you don't use that seasoning pack niyad Nov 2012 #13
Soylent Green? Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #5
Beat me to it. Fridays Child Nov 2012 #7
Plumpy’Nut®? ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #6
If you want to know if you have a commercially viable plan ... surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #8
P-nut butter. marybourg Nov 2012 #9
A product named Plumpy'nut has/is being produced at cost to feed starving African children Nay Nov 2012 #10
Just drop in a Twinkie? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #11
an egg or two in the ramen, minus that disgusting seasoning pack, and a spoonful of veggies, niyad Nov 2012 #14
Actually, ramen noodles can be prepared in a healthy way Trailrider1951 Nov 2012 #15
Beans & rice or a baked potato. Doremus Nov 2012 #16
I suspect you don't know much about ramen noodles.... mike_c Nov 2012 #17
I hope your noodles are not descending malaise Nov 2012 #19
Maybe the OP is really The Flying Spaghetti Monster? Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #24
ROFL malaise Nov 2012 #25
This thread donco Nov 2012 #22
Ramen is disgusting filth. bitchkitty Nov 2012 #26
Avoid gulf coast and brown rice, though - particularly when pregnant FrodosPet Nov 2012 #31
Have you tried black rice? TuxedoKat Nov 2012 #32
A big part of it is geography FrodosPet Nov 2012 #33
I like white rice anyway. bitchkitty Nov 2012 #34
Why don't they make a pelletized human food that you can buy in a 50 pound bag like dog food? Victor_c3 Nov 2012 #27
The Answer minkyboodle Nov 2012 #29
there is already....3/4 of the world sustain themselves on it... Evasporque Nov 2012 #28
 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
4. Absolutely. A delicious superfood.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:44 PM
Nov 2012

So aromatic and nutty. So versatile. I can never make enough of it.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
18. Quinoa: The Dark Side of an Andean Superfood
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:25 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2110890,00.html

As a child, Benjamin Huarachi, 55, ate quinoa almost every day, as a matter of practicality. The crop is one of few that thrive on Bolivia's high plains, 13,000 ft. (4,000 m) above sea level, explains the farmer. His impoverished family had no idea that the colorful tall tufts yield one of the healthiest foods on the planet. Nor did Huarachi imagine that his childhood staple would one day bring economic success. "Quinoa was always comida para los indios [food for Indians]," he says, almost laughing, "Today it's food for the world's richest."

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But the windfall could become a double-edged sword. In February, violence over prime quinoa-growing territory left dozens injured, and land conflict is spreading. "Sure, the price of quinoa is increasing," says Carlos Nina, a local leader in Bolivia's quinoa heartland, "but so are our problems." Apart from increasing feuds over property rights, these include the collapse of the traditional relationship between llama herding and soil fertilization, with potentially disastrous consequences of quinoa's "organic" status, and the ironic twist that the children of newly prosperous farmers no longer like eating quinoa, contributing to dietary problems

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/world/americas/20bolivia.html

Quinoa’s Global Success Creates Quandary at Home

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But while Bolivians have lived off it for centuries, quinoa remained little more than a curiosity outside the Andes for years, found in health food shops and studied by researchers — until recently.

Now demand for quinoa (pronounced KEE-no-ah) is soaring in rich countries, as American and European consumers discover the “lost crop” of the Incas. The surge has helped raise farmers’ incomes here in one of the hemisphere’s poorest countries. But there has been a notable trade-off: Fewer Bolivians can now afford it, hastening their embrace of cheaper, processed foods and raising fears of malnutrition in a country that has long struggled with it.

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It would be awesome if it could be grown in other places besides the Andes. Great stuff - the ultimate superfood, and tasty when properly prepared - but since I started reading about it, I've been bothered by this unfortunate impact.
 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
23. It is so hard to imagine every aspect of a situation. So many different
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:30 AM
Nov 2012

aspects to ethical eating.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
12. I think they have 10 times the daily recommended amount of sodium in them.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:52 PM
Nov 2012

Assuming you use the spice packet.

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
8. If you want to know if you have a commercially viable plan ...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:48 PM
Nov 2012

... you're going to have to do some real research on nutrition, prices of ingredients, and production processes.

I don't think you will find those answers here.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
10. A product named Plumpy'nut has/is being produced at cost to feed starving African children
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:48 PM
Nov 2012

specifically. It was developed by an aid organization's doctors, I believe, and they have not patented it and are showing communities how to produce it themselves as an emergency food product. It has peanut butter, dried milk, liquid vitamins, and some other stuff. It can be stored without refrigeration.

niyad

(113,471 posts)
14. an egg or two in the ramen, minus that disgusting seasoning pack, and a spoonful of veggies,
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:55 PM
Nov 2012

is a quick snack.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
15. Actually, ramen noodles can be prepared in a healthy way
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:17 PM
Nov 2012

Don't use the seasoning packet. In addition to the noodles, buy a package each of frozen peas and carrots (about $1.50), a package of frozen brocoli cuts (about the same), and a medium onion. Cook the noodles in water according to package directions, and drain when they are done. In a medium skillet, stir fry about 1/3 cup peas and carrots, 1/3 cup brocoli cuts, and a thick slice of onion, chopped, in 2 tblspoons oil for 3 or so minutes. Add cooked noodles and a few shakes of low sodium soy sauce. Stir and cook for another minute or two and serve. Absolutely delicious! Those 2 packages of veggies and the rest of the onion will flavor a whole five day's worth of lunch or dinner (for 1 person). So, let's add up the cost: Veggies: $3.50. Ramen: $1.50. Oil and soy flavorings: $0.50. Total: $5.50. Cost per meal: $5.50 / 5 = $1.10 per meal. If you have room to grow some of your own veggies, it is even less costly. Also, if you're tired of the noodles, the same dish can be made with leftover rice (which actually cooks up better than freshly made rice). Bon Apetite!

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
17. I suspect you don't know much about ramen noodles....
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:22 PM
Nov 2012

Ramen noodles are quite nutritious, but you wouldn't know that if your only experience was with the instant cup-o-brine that most Americans eat. But the noodles are a fine carbohydrate source, and they're tasty. So throw away the "instant" seasoning packet and make your ramen with real meat stock, some veggies and greens (or seaweed), a small portion of meat, a bit of sesame or chili oil, a sprinkle of chopped green onions, and a reasonable seasoning with salt or some good soy sauce. Good, nutritious, and fast food.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
24. Maybe the OP is really The Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:43 AM
Nov 2012

Touching us from above with His Noodly Appendage!












Or His Meatballs are finally descending.


Late bloomer.



FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
31. Avoid gulf coast and brown rice, though - particularly when pregnant
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:14 AM
Nov 2012

This sux because I LOVE rice...but it is what it is!

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57515656/reported-arsenic-levels-in-rice-prompt-concern

Reported arsenic levels in rice prompt concern

(CBS News) Consumer Reports found significant levels of arsenic in apple juice earlier this year, and now, the magazine has a new study, showing many brands of rice also contain the toxin.

The arsenic enters into the rice when it is grown, according to Dr. Philip Landrigan, a pediatrician at New York's Mount Sinai School of Medicine. He explained the rice with the highest levels of arsenic is from Texas and Louisiana, and along the Gulf coast where fields were used to grow cotton a century ago.

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Arsenic causes lung, skin and bladder cancer, Landrigan said. He added that arsenic is also very harmful to babies' brain development. If a baby is exposed to arsenic in the womb because the mother is eating arsenic or if a baby ingests arsenic in the first months of life in cereal, rice milk or other food, the arsenic could interfere with brain development, reduce the child's intelligence, and cause behavioral problems.

Landrigan recommended in the coming months and years that parents avoid rice altogether or just rice that was grown in Texas, Louisiana, and Missouri. "Stay with California rice, stay with Asian rice or when in doubt go with barley, go with oatmeal," he said. "The smart thing to do is to be concerned and not do it. ... Just avoid the rice."

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I am running out of ideas about what I CAN eat. Even the healthiest foods either have dangers, or unfortunate socioeconomic consequences. It seems like simply being alive is dangerous to your health.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
32. Have you tried black rice?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:16 AM
Nov 2012

It's actually more dark purple. I emailed the company after I bought some about arsenic levels and was advised (by the CEO) that there rice was tested regularly for arsenic and it was not a problem with their rice. I can't remember exactly what she said, but if you want I can find her email. The rice is very tasty too.

http://www.amazon.com/Lotus-Foods-Heirloom-Forbidden-Black/dp/B00198C89I/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
33. A big part of it is geography
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:05 PM
Nov 2012

From what I have been reading, a lot of soil naturally contains arsenic. It is a naturally occurring element, right there on the periodic chart, and not a man made chemical. Beyond the "background" levels though, it was used in pesticides popular with cotton farmers for many years. As well, there apparently is some in chicken feed, which becomes chicken poop, which becomes organic fertilizer.

California and Asia has the lowest levels, the Gulf Coast has the highest.

The rice you pointed out looks pretty good, but it was a bit of sticker shock. Right now, with my hours reduced due to my health, my food budget is about $100 a month, so I need to maximize my calories per dollar - and I still need my apples, carrots, peppers, chicken, lentils, tomatoes and tomato sauce, broccoli, lemon juice, etc.

If and when things turn around, I do want to check it out. Thank you for the pointer.

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
34. I like white rice anyway.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:10 PM
Nov 2012

I usually buy it at the Asian food store or I buy an Asian brand (short grain, yum.) Love it! I eat it plain, all by its lonesome. It's a wonderful energy food.

I don't need the fiber of brown since rice is one of the few cooked foods that I eat. But brown rice would be better. Anything is better than wheat.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
27. Why don't they make a pelletized human food that you can buy in a 50 pound bag like dog food?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:40 AM
Nov 2012

I wish I was able to enjoy the convenience of kibble. It works for my dog and my cat. Why couldn't it work for me?

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