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Is GOP behavior this week making the "Over the Cliff" option look better or worse to you? (Original Post) Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 OP
Better... 99Forever Nov 2012 #1
I want to push the GOP over the cliff. Atman Nov 2012 #2
Better. I am not thrilled about my tax hike, but I'll live. Republicans need to deal with catbyte Nov 2012 #3
The cliff would cost me around $1,500 annually in Bush-era tax cuts. dawg Nov 2012 #4
Better Flashmann Nov 2012 #5
I want to go over the cliff, with the GOP and Grover screaming on the way down. Avalux Nov 2012 #6
I think some would like to cooperate, but McConnell never will. Frustratedlady Nov 2012 #7
Not really. I think they are just shooting their final Still Sensible Nov 2012 #8
Better, but I don't want it to happen....... Uben Nov 2012 #9
Better... Much Better... But PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #10
Better Soundman Nov 2012 #11
Better Laochtine Nov 2012 #12
let's all hold hands and roll over the speed bump. librechik Nov 2012 #13
Better. Howard Dean made a compelling case for going off the Cliff. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #14
as did Krugman... Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #17
That raving bunch of lunatics and sociopaths does not affect my perceptions coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #15
No deal is better than a bad deal. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #16
Since Nobody Has Adequately Defined "Cliff" I'm Ok With It ProfessorGAC Nov 2012 #18

catbyte

(34,546 posts)
3. Better. I am not thrilled about my tax hike, but I'll live. Republicans need to deal with
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:18 AM
Nov 2012

the consequences of their inaction last year. Those bastards Boehner, Ryan, McConnell, etc. were so fucking arrogant that they thought Obama would not be re-elected & the GOP would regain a Senate majority giving them carte blanc to gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, shredding whatever was left of the social safety net to pay for lower taxes for their corporate overlords. That the election turned out almost the opposite of their expectations has left them befuddled, bewildered, and has completely exposed their utter incompetence at governing.

dawg

(10,626 posts)
4. The cliff would cost me around $1,500 annually in Bush-era tax cuts.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:21 AM
Nov 2012

It would stall the recovery, leaving us with zero, or even slightly negative GDP for 2013.

But I find that preferable to any benefit cuts to Medicare or Medicaid. Those programs need to be preserved, and even extended someday whenever it is politically possible to do so.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
6. I want to go over the cliff, with the GOP and Grover screaming on the way down.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:23 AM
Nov 2012

I am fairly certain this will happen; although not acknowledged, it will give the GOP a way to allow taxes to go up on the wealthy without actually acting on raising taxes and will render Grover powerless.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. I think some would like to cooperate, but McConnell never will.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:26 AM
Nov 2012

Cantor, Ryan and several others will never cooperate with Obama, no matter what he suggests. Their egos won't let them, and we have to protect those stupid egos. (I keep picturing in my mind that photo of Ryan on the weight bench.)

Still Sensible

(2,870 posts)
8. Not really. I think they are just shooting their final
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:34 AM
Nov 2012

salvo to save face with the teabag types and banksters, but will ultimately cut a deal on mostly the President's terms. They simply can't allow the MIC to take the hit... and they can't afford to take the blame for the two biggest outcomes--the middle class tax hike and the loss of jobs.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
9. Better, but I don't want it to happen.......
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:35 AM
Nov 2012

...we'll all be better off if we avoid the cliff, but not at the cost of cutting entitlements. Everyone knows the eventual outcome will likely be higher taxes for the rich. The question is how much of the burden will they bear? They spent $300 million on the elections and didn't get squat, and now they are gonna be forced to pay a fairer share of the taxes, so they are gonna be 0 for 2. Maybe they should have embraced the Obama administration instead of financing the weak opposition in the elections. Too late, damage done....consequences to follow.

PoliticalBiker

(328 posts)
10. Better... Much Better... But
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:38 AM
Nov 2012

The discussions still aren't addressing the real solution.

JOBS!

Good-Paying JOBS!!

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
15. That raving bunch of lunatics and sociopaths does not affect my perceptions
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:42 PM
Nov 2012

of the 'Cliff'. I hope Obama and the Dems figure out a way to use it to squash the Rape-publi-scum into the dirt and onto the dustbin of history. Three months ago (before Nov.) I would have thought that a vain hope. Now I'm modestly optimistic that the Rape-publi-scum brand will go the way of the Whigs, ca. 1856.

ProfessorGAC

(65,426 posts)
18. Since Nobody Has Adequately Defined "Cliff" I'm Ok With It
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 02:55 PM
Nov 2012

Many economists don't share the view that it is a catastrophic option. Therefore, it's not really a cliff.

The term "cliff" is being used as a political tool and may have not basis in reality.
GAC

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