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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs GOP behavior this week making the "Over the Cliff" option look better or worse to you?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... and I was all for it before.
ffthecliff:
Atman
(31,464 posts)Fuck them. I drew this cartoon in 2004. Nothing has changed.
catbyte
(34,546 posts)the consequences of their inaction last year. Those bastards Boehner, Ryan, McConnell, etc. were so fucking arrogant that they thought Obama would not be re-elected & the GOP would regain a Senate majority giving them carte blanc to gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, shredding whatever was left of the social safety net to pay for lower taxes for their corporate overlords. That the election turned out almost the opposite of their expectations has left them befuddled, bewildered, and has completely exposed their utter incompetence at governing.
dawg
(10,626 posts)It would stall the recovery, leaving us with zero, or even slightly negative GDP for 2013.
But I find that preferable to any benefit cuts to Medicare or Medicaid. Those programs need to be preserved, and even extended someday whenever it is politically possible to do so.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Fuck 'em!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I am fairly certain this will happen; although not acknowledged, it will give the GOP a way to allow taxes to go up on the wealthy without actually acting on raising taxes and will render Grover powerless.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Cantor, Ryan and several others will never cooperate with Obama, no matter what he suggests. Their egos won't let them, and we have to protect those stupid egos. (I keep picturing in my mind that photo of Ryan on the weight bench.)
Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)salvo to save face with the teabag types and banksters, but will ultimately cut a deal on mostly the President's terms. They simply can't allow the MIC to take the hit... and they can't afford to take the blame for the two biggest outcomes--the middle class tax hike and the loss of jobs.
Uben
(7,719 posts)...we'll all be better off if we avoid the cliff, but not at the cost of cutting entitlements. Everyone knows the eventual outcome will likely be higher taxes for the rich. The question is how much of the burden will they bear? They spent $300 million on the elections and didn't get squat, and now they are gonna be forced to pay a fairer share of the taxes, so they are gonna be 0 for 2. Maybe they should have embraced the Obama administration instead of financing the weak opposition in the elections. Too late, damage done....consequences to follow.
PoliticalBiker
(328 posts)The discussions still aren't addressing the real solution.
JOBS!
Good-Paying JOBS!!
Soundman
(297 posts)I may take a slight hit, but so be it.
Laochtine
(394 posts)And they'll be skidmarking all the way down.
librechik
(30,678 posts)fgs...
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)of the 'Cliff'. I hope Obama and the Dems figure out a way to use it to squash the Rape-publi-scum into the dirt and onto the dustbin of history. Three months ago (before Nov.) I would have thought that a vain hope. Now I'm modestly optimistic that the Rape-publi-scum brand will go the way of the Whigs, ca. 1856.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,426 posts)Many economists don't share the view that it is a catastrophic option. Therefore, it's not really a cliff.
The term "cliff" is being used as a political tool and may have not basis in reality.
GAC