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Previous thread, Highlights from Egypt, Dec 9 2012 (Part 1) Grand Treason, can be found here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021950316
The National Salvation Front categorically rejects the constitutional referendum
Mass protests on Tuesday
Presidential decrees for huge tax hikes on utilities and goods to satisfy the thugs in the IMF didn't go over well at all
Less than 10 hours after State Organs announced the tax hikes, they were rescinded
Gregg Carlstrom ?@glcarlstrom
So now Morsi *isn't* raising taxes (yet), because he realizes they'd be unpopular with "the Egyptian street": http://bit.ly/YSKoRa (Arabic)
Hani Shukrallah ?@HaniShukrallah
#MB in power: raise sales tax (hit poor), don't raise tax on rich; issue secret decree, announce week later, take back next morning! slick
sherief gaber ?@cairocitylimits
Holy shit this is getting ridiculous "Egypt president Morsi halts tax hikes, calls for dialogue" http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/60166.aspx
In a statement in the early hours of Monday, the Egyptian President suspends the implementation of tax increases announced Sunday afternoon
Ahram Online, Monday 10 Dec 2012
Egypt President Mohamed Morsi has retracted his Sunday decisions to increase tax burdens on the Egyptian people, and ordered the government to carry out a "social dialogue" on the measures before implementation.
In a statement issued on his official Facebook page at around 2 am on Monday, Morsi said he had put on hold the measures of raising sales taxes on a wide range of consumer goods and services that were made public Sunday afternoon.
(The President) does not accept that the Egyptian citizen carries any extra burdens without consent. His Excellency has decided to halt the (tax raising) decisions until the degree of public acceptance is made clear, the statement read.
The measures represent the implementation of an economic programme that Egypt has proposed to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in order to be eligible for a $4.8 billion loan. They are aimed at reducing public deficit through increasing state revenue.
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http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/60166.aspx
Edit: Gameela Ismail ?@GameelaIsmail
@Bassem_Sabry not ANNULS,but SUSPENDS decrees.We will protest 3pm in Cairo at the cabinet,central bank &governorate buildings nationwide
((Tax Details))
Ahmed Ateyya ?@Ateyya
#morsitaxes: 10% on stock market profits, 18% on cell phone bills, 15% on land fertilizers, 10% on rents, 200% on beer, 150% on liquor
Retweeted by Cherif Barakat
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(35,568 posts)Max Strasser ?@maxstrasser
Egypt cabinet "surprised" by Morsi's reversal on tax hikes. http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/cabinet-%E2%80%98surprised-over-decision-postpone-sales-tax-increases?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Al-Masry Al-Youm
Mon, 10/12/2012 - 15:05
The Cabinet was not informed of President Mohamed Morsys decision to postpone a law on increasing commodity prices, and wasnt consulted on the issue, an informed Cabinet source said.
The Cabinet had issued a press release Saturday defending the decision ahead of being informed about Ambassador Mohamed Refaa al-Tahtawis statements, in which he announced that the law would be canceled until a public discussion on it is held, the source said.
The source, who requested anonymity, told Al-Masry Al-Youm that there has been a lot of confusion in the Cabinet about canceling the decision, especially since the International Monetary Fund is set to vote on 19 December on Egypts request for a US$4.8 billion loan.
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Morsy halted a presidential decision on amending provisions of the law on sales taxes, which would have increased taxes on about 50 kinds of goods, including steel, cement, fertilizers, cooking oil, cigarettes and electricity.
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/cabinet-%E2%80%98surprised-over-decision-postpone-sales-tax-increases?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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(35,568 posts)Egypt Independent ?@EgyIndependent
In five months, five retreats on major presidential decrees http://ow.ly/fY1Q4 #Egypt #Morsy
In five months, five retreats on major presidential decrees
Egypt Independent
Mon, 10/12/2012 - 15:03
After five months in power, President Mohamed Morsy has withdrawn five significant decrees. The major decisions that Morsy has made and later retreated on are his decision to reinstate the dissolved Peoples Assembly, his appointment of former Prosecutor General Abdel Meguid Mahmoud as ambassador to the Vatican, the decision to force stores and restaurants to close by 10 pm, his 22 November constitutional declaration that protected the Constituent Assembly from dissolution, and, most recently, his decision to raise taxes on a number of commodities.
Parliament reinstatement
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The prosecutor general, twice removed
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Earlier closure of businesses
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The constitutional declaration
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Price increases
Morsys quickest retreat came on 9 December. Being the holder of legislative power, Morsy decided to increase taxes cigarettes, natural gas, fizzy drinks, alcohol and electricity. He withdrew the decision within hours on 10 December, with his office saying in a statement that he had returned the decision to the Cabinet for further consideration.
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/five-months-five-retreats-major-presidential-decrees
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/five-months-five-retreats-major-presidential-decrees
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(35,568 posts)Egypt Independent ?@EgyIndependent
Nour Party decides not to take part in Tuesday protests http://dlvr.it/2cVWQ8
MENA
Mon, 10/12/2012 - 15:41
Galal Morra, secretary general of the Salafi Nour Party, said the party has so far decided not to take part in a protest to be staged by Islamist powers Tuesday.
He added that the party is busy preparing for a campaign to persuade voters to vote in favor of the new constitution, scheduled to be put to a nationwide referendum Saturday.
An Islamist powers coalition, which brings together the Muslim Brotherhood, the Salafi Dawah and other groups, called for two protests Tuesday in front of Rabea al-Adaweya and Aal Rashdan mosques in Nasr City for their members to voice their support for Mohamed Morsy as the legitimate president.
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http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/nour-party-decides-not-take-part-tuesday-protests?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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(35,568 posts)Nancy Messieh ?@nfm
RT @EgyptSource: Egypt Independent: Nour Party changes mind, says will participate in Tuesday demo http://bit.ly/RYqSzr
Al-Masry Al-Youm
Mon, 10/12/2012 - 20:49
The Salafi Nour Party has announced its participation in Tuesdays mass demonstration in support of President Mohamed Morsy and the constitutional referendum.
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Nour Party Secretary General Galal Morra said the party had initially declined to participate as its leaders were preoccupied with the Yes to the Constitution campaign in the governorates.
The campaign attempts to convince citizens to back the constitution to rebuild the state institutions and support development, he said.
A number of Islamist forces, led by the Muslim Brotherhood and the Freedom and Justice Party, have announced participation in Tuesdays demonstration.
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/nour-party-changes-mind-says-will-participate-tuesday-demo
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(35,568 posts)Egypt Independent ?@EgyIndependent
Q&A with Tahani al-Gebali: Egypt faces Brotherhood plot http://dlvr.it/2cVWQr
Mohamed al-Bahrawy
Mon, 10/12/2012 - 15:50
Tahani al-Gebali, vice president of the Supreme Constitutional Court, described the day members of the Islamist current prevented the judges from entering the Supreme Constitutional Court as a black one in the history of the judiciary and the Egyptian state.
In an interview with Al-Masry Al-Youm, Gebaly said the Egyptian state is the target of a conspiracy and faces a genuine threat from the Muslim Brotherhood because the president is unable to act independently of the group.
Al-Masry Al-Youm: What do you think of the constitutional declaration issued by the president Saturday?
Tahani al-Gebali: The president says he replaced an old constitutional declaration with a new one, but the truth is they are the same. And in all cases, the president does not have the right to issue constitutional declarations.
I would like to explain that the fact that the new constitutional declaration immunizes the results of the canceled one means, from a constitutional point of view, that all of the articles of the canceled one are in effect. And this includes the immunization of the Constituent Assembly and the Shura Council, even though it was the effects of the constitutional declaration that caused the current crisis, particularly after the constitutional judiciary and the State Council were prevented from reviewing any pertinent cases.
Al-Masry: What do you think of the Muslim Brotherhoods protest at the Supreme Constitutional Court?
Gebali: That was the darkest day in the history of the Egyptian state and the state of law, because besieging the court, which is responsible for monitoring the constitutionality of laws and whose rulings are binding for all state institutions, means that the state is collapsing. If we see the link between that and what is happening in judicial circles, we will find that the state is in fact collapsing.
Al-Masry: Do you think there is a conspiracy against the judiciary?
Gebali: The entire Egyptian state is subject to a conspiracy and real danger from the Muslim Brotherhood because the president belongs to it, and he has not abandoned it. He still rules through it, taking into account its goals. ... The constitutional declaration issued recently dealt a blow to the judiciary and contained provisions that prevent the judiciary from exercising its powers.
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http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/qa-tahani-al-gebali-egypt-faces-brotherhood-%E2%80%98plot?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Hani Shukrallah ?@HaniShukrallah
Abul-Fotouh's Strong Egypt Party to vote no at referendum http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/60187.aspx via @ahramonline
Moderate Islamist party launches "no" campaign ahead of Saturday's poll as constitution 'fails revolutionary demands'; Egyptian Current Party to decide position on referendum Tuesday
Ahram Online, Monday 10 Dec 2012
Former presidential candidate and founder of the Strong Egypt Party, Abdel-Moneim Abul-Fotouh, announced in a statement Monday that the party will call all Egyptians to vote "no" in the upcoming constitutional referendum, following opposition calls to reject the draft national charter.
The moderate Islamist party confirmed that it will launch a "no" campaign, as the current draft constitution does not achieve the demands of the January 25 Revolution. The party also condemned the manner in which the national charter was passed and the way political forces were forced to accept the status quo.
Muslim Brotherhood-offshoot the Egyptian Current Party also issued a statement Monday saying they will confirm their position on the upcoming constitutional polls once their members have conducted an internal vote on Tuesday.
The Monday statement clarified that these points include ensuring the rights of marginalised groups, not putting any restraints on public and private freedoms, achieving social justice for all sections of society, guaranteeing dignity for all Egyptians without discrimination, separation and balance of different state authorities and a proper definition of the specialisations of each state authority. In addition, the party outlined, they want to ensure that military institutions fall under civil democratic dominance in the constitution and that the national charter grants sovereignty to the people directly through referendums and popular control or indirectly through elected institutions.
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http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/60187.aspx
http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/60187.aspx
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Gameela Ismail ?@GameelaIsmail
@Bassem_Sabry not ANNULS,but SUSPENDS decrees.We will protest 3pm in Cairo at the cabinet,central bank &governorate buildings nationwide
Raouf Tawfik ?@RaoufTawfik
just a note, #Morsi didnt cancel the tax law, he halted it, so sooner or later it will be implemented! #Egypt #IMF
Catherina
(35,568 posts)The Daily News Egypt ?@DailyNewsEgypt
Rival groups to rally on Tuesday http://dailynewsegypt.com/2012/12/10/rival-groups-to-rally-on-tuesday/
Liliana Mihaila / December 10, 2012
Islamist and opposition forces will demonstrate the same day
For the second week, rival political groups have planned pro and anti-President Mohamed Morsy demonstrations on the same day in Cairo
After its press conference on Sunday night, the National Salvation Front (NSF) called for mass protests on Tuesday against the constitutional referendum scheduled to take place on 15 December.
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The initial announcement stated that the Islamic Legitimate Body for Rights and Reformation, the Salafi Calling, Gamaa Islamiyaa, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Association for Sunni Scholars, the Board of Trustees of the Revolution, the Salafi Front, Al-Nour Party, the Freedom and Justice Party, the Construction and Development Party, the Asala Party and the Islah Party would all participate in the pro-Morsy Tuesday demonstrations.
However, on Monday, state-owned MENA reported that the influential Salafi political group Al-Nour Party said it would not participate in the Tuesday demonstrations, electing to focus its efforts on campaigning in support of the draft constitution leading up to Saturday.
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http://dailynewsegypt.com/2012/12/10/rival-groups-to-rally-on-tuesday/
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(35,568 posts)8m السيد مانكي السيد مانكي ?@Sandmonkey
pic.twitter.com/IEFcyfLp On the islamists assassination list, my name... http://fb.me/14qdTJvnR
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(51,457 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Thanks for following them. By the way, do you speak any Arabic?
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(35,568 posts)Mohamed Abdelfattah ?@mfatta7
Morsis betrayal - http://FT.com - Editorial http://on.ft.com/Ut6Zx9
Brotherhoods man should be president of all Egyptians
Mohamed Morsi has belatedly offered his growing number of opponents a national dialogue while refusing to rescind his seizure last month of judicial powers or put off a referendum next Saturday on a new draft constitution written to the prescriptions of the Muslim Brotherhood, the powerful Islamist movement that propelled him from obscure party functionary to the presidency of Egypt.
The opposition, predictably, is reluctant to play along. Mr Morsis stance is like that of the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland, who interrupts trials to expostulate: sentence first verdict afterwards. But the risks to Egypt of the Brotherhoods mix of thuggery and dogmatism over the past two weeks are no whimsical fantasy; Mr Morsi is running out of time to save his country from chaos.
It is now clear that his November 22 edict exempting presidential decisions from judicial oversight was designed to shield the authors of the new constitution as they rushed through a text that is Islamist in conception and a weak guarantor of civic and personal freedoms. It is true that the constitutional court with judges appointed by Hosni Mubarak, the dictator deposed in 2011 exceeded its powers by dissolving Egypts first elected parliament earlier this year. It is just as true that this parliament packed the panel writing the constitution with Islamists, triggering the withdrawal of secular forces, women and Christians.
In forcing through the new charter, Mr Morsi broke his pledge to be president of all Egyptians. In unleashing Brotherhood thugs on furious protesters, he acts like a faction chief. No wonder crowds are calling for the overthrow of the militia regime. It was not for this that Egyptians risked their lives to topple Mr Mubaraks rule.
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http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/f181c26c-407f-11e2-8e04-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Ef2JQkhb
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(35,568 posts)Mohamed Abd El-Hamid ?@MohAbdElHamid
#Morsi Past the Point of No Return -- http://goo.gl/FRsul via @jadaliyya
Morsi Past the Point of No Return
by Hesham Sallam
The events of 5 December 2012 mark an important shift in Egyptian politics in light of the violence that pitted Muslim Brotherhood members and partisans of President Mohamed Morsi against protesters opposed to the presidents recent moves to centralize power and allow the Brotherhood to dictate the terms of Egypts new political order.
Dominant narratives in international media have implicitly or explicitly embraced the view that the clashes are the manifestation of an unfortunate cycle of conflict between two sides that are equally responsible for pushing the nation to the brink of civil strife by stubbornly sticking to blind partisanship. After all, each of the two sides has alleged that the opposing party employed violenceand in the case of the Brotherhood systematic torture of anti-Morsi protestersleaving the observer with the impression that the clashes are part of a messy battle in which transgressions have been committed by all sides.
What this perspective misses, however, is thatregardless of how much violence each side has committedthe clashes were instigated by a deliberate, conscious decision by Muslim Brotherhood leaders to escalate the conflict with its adversaries. One day after thousands of opposition protesters had marched to the presidential palace and staged a sit-in in order to pressure Morsi into reversing his controversial constitutional declaration, the Muslim Brotherhood called on its supporters to march to the palace.
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The Muslim Brotherhoods decision to escalate the conflict with its challengers was not merely aimed at dealing the opposition an unquestionable defeat by forcing an end to its sit-in around the presidential palace and clearing the way for a transition dictated by the Brotherhood and its allies. Through this action the Brotherhood also sought to send a message to leaders of military and civilian security agencies that the Brothers are ready to take matters into their own hands, should the police and the army continue to show ambivalence in dealing with the opposition.
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http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/8881/morsi-past-the-point-of-no-return
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(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Mansoura Judges' Club refuse to oversee any referendums or elections.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Pres spokespn says pres didnt go back on tax hikes &stopping it doesnt mean cancelling it. Says fast pace of events prevented discussing it
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Witchy ?@nagoul1
Secretly? " #USA secretly pushing for Islamic fascist regime in #Egypt " I
Catherina
(35,568 posts)matthew cassel ?@justimage
Khartoonist @khalidalbaih 's illustration of news media covering famine in Africa
Catherina
(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Free_&_fair_elections: min of education sends written directives to Luxor schools to discuss imp. of new constit via school's broadcast sys
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mostafa Hussein ?@moftasa
Egypt: The Right to Water (with a nice yet worrying infographic) /by @MaliciaRogue http://futurechallenges.org/local/egypt-the-right-to-water/#.UMYCnWD-25k.twitter
Monday, 10 December 2012 / Rayna Stamboliyska Tags: egypt, human rights, management, sanitation, water
Regions: Egypt
Water is indispensable to human life. As a basic need, it is highly vulnerable to exploitation and has been recognized as a human right in several international human rights treaties and declarations. Addressing the right to water in terms of sustaining life highlights how important proper policies are for securing health and welfare in human populations. One of the greatest challenges Egypt faces today is implementing appropriate measures to close the worrying gap between limited water resources and increasing water demand (see our infographic below).
The Right to Water, an Egyptian Perspective. Click to see full size. Credit: the author (CC-by 3.0)
Since the 1959 treaty with Sudan, Egypt has maintained a stranglehold on the Niles water resources, securing 75% of them for its own use. However, this treaty, so advantageous to Egypt, has been bitterly criticized by other Nile states: lets not forget that the river actually flows through eight other countries besides Egypt. Introduced in 2010, the Nile Basin Initiative aims at granting access to the Niles water to the other countries. If the Initiative were ratified, Egypt would see its main water source diminished a worrying prospect as the Egyptian population keeps on growing and water share per capita already dropped below the UNs water poverty line of 1000m3 per person in 2005. Thus far the situation is one of relative water scarcity, but experts predict a certain water crisis in the foreseeable future.
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Meanwhile, not only the quantity but also the quality of water is deteriorating as groundwater sources show abnormally elevated amounts of fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides. This has an immediate impact on health as nearly half of Egyptians live in rural zones where water is often only available from irrigation canals. Water treatment plants happen to be improperly maintained, and thus the water they produce is often contaminated with a wide range of micro-organisms. The neglected critical situation of slums also poses a serious problem as the water supply is unequally distributed within urban zones, and the poor suffer most from scarce resources and poor quality water.
Egypt is the only country to consider bottled water as a medical food in the same class as special food for diabetics. How long is the medicine going to be the cause of the ailment?
http://futurechallenges.org/local/egypt-the-right-to-water/#.UMYCnWD-25k.twitter
Catherina
(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Mosque sermons & posters all over Fayyoum asking people to vote 'yes' for the constitution. I don't mind posters but "mosque sermons"??
Catherina
(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Shukr says referndm HAS 2b with judiciary oversight.Says if 2 more mmbrs of EHRCouncil resign+8 already resigned,Council'll not b legitimate
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(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
#Suez judges refuse to return to court or to oversee the referendum.
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(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
#Islamist AbuIsmail supporters verbally attack AlTahrir journalists Ahmed al Reedy and Radwa al Shazli & refuse to permit them to film.
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(35,568 posts)The Daily News Egypt ?@DailyNewsEgypt
Presidency accuses journalists of insulting Morsy http://dailynewsegypt.com/2012/12/10/presidency-accuses-journalists-of-insulting-morsy/
Liliana Mihaila / December 10, 2012
Complaint filed with the prosecutor general
The presidency has filed a complaint with the prosecutor general against Youm Al-Sabea editor and television presenter Khaled Salah and Ola El-Shafie, a reporter at the paper, accusing them of insulting President Mohamed Morsy.
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The complaint is the latest in a series of incidents where journalists and media personalities have been investigated for insulting the president. Previous cases included talk show hosts Mahmoud Saad and Tawfiq Okasha as well as Dostour newspaper editor Islam Afifi.
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Islamists accuse the media of liberal bias and prejudice against Morsy and Islamists in general. Calls for the purification of the media have been high on the agenda of Islamist protestors in recent rallies.
Salah Abdel Maqsoud, the minister of information, is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Brotherhood dominated upper house of parliament, the Shura Council, also selected all editors-in-chief of state-owned newspapers and publications.
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http://dailynewsegypt.com/2012/12/10/presidency-accuses-journalists-of-insulting-morsy/
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(35,568 posts)نشرة القاهرة? ?@cairowire
on int'l human rights day: egyptians to vote on a constitution that undermines rights and liberties http://is.gd/tkemVU #egypt #dostor
Press Release
Monday 10 December 2012
The undersigned human rights organizations declare their rejection of the draft constitution to be put to a popular referendum on 15 December, with the vote for Egyptians residing abroad starting on 12 December.. We are extremely concerned about the future of liberties and human rights if this draft is adopted as the countrys permanent constitution following the referendum. Instead of celebrating the 64th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, drafted by a group of states which included Egypt, today Egyptians are facing the prospect of having their future determined by a constitution that entrenches political and religious tyranny, grants constitutional legitimacy to assaults on human rights, and does not recognize Egypts international commitments to protect these rights. This situation is particularly regrettable, as it comes in the wake of the popular revolt in which hundreds died and thousands were injured to obtain freedom, human rights, and democracy.
The constitution was drafted by a constituent assembly lacking legal, social, political, and moral legitimacy. From the outset, it became clear that forces hostile to public freedoms and human rights dominated the assembly and aimed to impose oversight over citizens personal rights and liberties in all spheres, including by granting constitutional backing for the formation of groups whose purpose would be to compel citizens to follow their strict moral and social codes, including through the exercise of violence.
Unfortunately, this illegitimate assembly ultimately received the support of the president, who had been among the first to admit that its composition was unbalanced. Indeed, during his electoral campaign, he vowed to create a balance in the assembly, yet he did not keep his word. He has also failed to follow through on a promise made after winning the elections to refrain from putting any constitution to a referendum that did not enjoy a broad consensus among political and social forces.
The current draft opens the door to the establishment of a theocratic system similar to the Iranian Wilayat al Faqih model (Guardianship of Islamic jurists), albeit under Sunni terminology. The Sunni legal and religious scholars, represented by a body of senior religious scholars, would be given the authority to act as custodians of the legislative process. This undermines the concept of the modern democratic state and sets the country up for significant legal uncertainty.
The post-revolution draft constitution contains no reference to human rights treaties and conventions ratified by Egypt, reflecting the constituent assemblys disdain for these agreements. Moreover, in enumerating rights and liberties, the constitution uses broad and vague language to restrict their exercise or refers to statutory law for their regulation. The text also dictates that the principles outlined in the first chapter of the document will act as a reference for the interpretation of human rights and civil liberties. As religious scholars are given interpretive authority, these rights and liberties are therefore jeopardized.
Despite the fact that the broad autocratic powers and prerogatives enjoyed by the president was one cause behind the revolution, the current draft grants the president authorities that are no less autocratic than those enjoyed by Hosni Mubarak. In addition, this constitution represents a massive regression from the human rights protections contained in the former constitution which was overthrown by the revolution.
The proposed constitution curtails several fundamental rights, such as the right to practice religious rituals, the right to freedom of expression, and the right to demonstrate, and it allows for the dissolution of associations and rejects the principle of trade union pluralism. It restricts the right to information and press freedom, making the press subject to closure, suspension, confiscation, and censorship, and creates a national press council to regulate the affairs of audio and visual broadcast, the print and digital press, and other [forms of media]. This council will act as the everyday custodian of the press and media. In addition, for the first time, the constitution grants legitimacy to military trials for civilians and gives constitutional protections to discrimination on political grounds.
This draft constitution represents a blatant attack on the Supreme Constitutional Court, once a bastion for the defense of human rights and liberties in Egypt prior to the revolution. The constitution transfers the power to determine the courts composition from its general assembly to the president and allows for the inclusion of members from outside the judiciary, which could allow for the inclusion of clerics for the first time.
In light of the above, the undersigned Egyptian human rights organizations declare their unequivocal rejection of the draft constitution.
Signatories
Cairo Institute for Human Rights Studies
Andalus institute for Tolerance and Anti-Violence Studies
Appropriate Communications Techniques for Development
Arab Network for Human Rights Information
Arab Penal Reform Organization
Arab Program for Human Rights Activists
Association for Freedom of Thought and Expression
Center for Trade Union and Workers Services
Egyptian Association for Community Participation Enhancement
Egyptian Center for Economic and Social Rights
Egyptian Center for Womens Rights
Egyptian Center for Womens Rights
Egyptian Foundation for Advancement of the Childhood Conditions
Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights
Egyptian Organization for Human Rights
Habi Center for Environmental Rights
Hisham Mubarak Law Center
Human Rights Association for the Assistance of Prisoners
Human Rights Legal Aid Group
Land Center for Human Rights
Misryon Against Religious Discrimination (MARED)
New Woman Foundation
The Arab Center for the Independence of the Judiciary and the Legal Profession (ACIJLP)
http://eipr.org/en/pressrelease/2012/12/10/1555
Catherina
(35,568 posts)33m نشرة القاهرة? نشرة القاهرة? ?@cairowire
RT @virtualactivism Women in Black tomorrow will rally at 5pm in front of Gamal Abdel Nasser Mosque to protest referendum. #egypt #dostor
Catherina
(35,568 posts)33m نشرة القاهرة? نشرة القاهرة? ?@cairowire
Amnesty International statement on #Egypt: policing powers for military set a 'dangerous precedent' http://is.gd/aXqXzh #dostor #humanrights
10 December 2012
Egypt: Policing powers for military dangerous precedent'
A new law issued by Egypts President Mohamed Morsi giving military officers policing powers is a dangerous loophole which may well lead to the military trial of civilians, Amnesty International warned
A decree issued on 9 December states all military officers will have the right to exercise judicial powers until the results of a referendum on a draft constitution are announced. That vote is due to be held on 15 December.
Considering the track record of the army while they were in charge, with more than 120 protesters killed and in excess of 12,000 civilians unfairly tried before military courts, this sets a dangerous precedent, said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui, Deputy Middle East and North Africa Director at Amnesty International.
In addition, a new law to protect the revolution, which allows prosecutors to detain people for up to six months in preventive detention without trial while they are investigated for press and media offences, organizing protests, striking and thuggery, has not been repealed.
Such restrictive provisions have been routinely used to punish peaceful exercise of the rights to freedom of expression, assembly, and association, said Hadj Sahraoui.
Under this decree reminiscent of the decried emergency law, people may be held for six months on spurious charges before they are finally brought to trial.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/egypt-policing-powers-military-dangerous-precedent-2012-12-10
AI Index: PRE01/602/2012
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(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Forensics says all victims of Itihadiya died with one bullet to either head or chest - from horizontal angle using 9mm, 6.35mm & 5.5mm guns
marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Forensics also said bec it is 1 single bullet that killed each victim but one, it shows shooters were highly trained. #egypt #itihadiya
Catherina
(35,568 posts)31m نشرة القاهرة? نشرة القاهرة? ?@cairowire
#egypt's political crisis: why are hundreds of thousands of egyptians out on the streets again? http://is.gd/9FdfAo #dostor (via @mwhanna1)
Egypt's political crisis
Posted By Ellis Goldberg Monday, December 10, 2012 - 9:48 AM
President Mohamed Morsi and his advisors cannot have expected that his November 22 constitutional declaration would throw Egypt into a renewed state of turmoil. That it has speaks volumes to the immense changes that have occurred in the country during the past two years. Morsi's support for President Barack Obama's truce initiative during the fighting in Gaza clearly reassured the U.S. president that under a Muslim Brotherhood (MB) president Egypt would keep the peace with Israel. Because this has been the dominant concern within the U.S. foreign policy elite about the Egyptian revolution, Morsi had good reason to believe that the United States and the Egyptian Armed Forces would not object to his domestic decisions.
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Divisions among U.S. commentators mirror divisions in Egypt. Many Morsi supporters argue that the new constitution is the most democratic one ever produced on Egyptian soil. It guarantees the right to start parties and open newspapers without prior approval; it bans torture and espouses the dignity of the prisoner. Opponents argue, in contrast, that it is an extremely bad constitution. It gives unelected religious figures the right of prior review of legislation and it allows the Armed Forces to function independently.
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For the moment we can only go on impressions, however the political divisions appear, for the first time, to be linked to social conflict. Reports from the textile capital, Mahallah, in the middle of the Egyptian Delta, are that protesters took over the city hall and declared themselves independent of what they called "the Muslim Brothers government." Leaders of the insurgent trade union movements there have long evinced opposition to the MB, which has sought to gain control of their movement. In 1981 Assiut was the scene of an uprising designed to create an Islamic emirate by supporters of Abbud al-Zumr, one of the organizers of the assassination of Anwar Sadat and today a prominent Salafi politician. On December 6, thousands of people there marched to protest against Morsi behind a banner calling for Muslim-Christian unity. In Port Said, as elsewhere, already a week ago there were pitched battles between youth opposed to the MB and their members.
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Morsi and his advisors also seem to believe that they can use any stratagem, as long as it remains formally valid, to accomplish their substantive ends. In this they are, regrettably, all too like Egyptian governments of the last 60 years. One of Morsi's advisors admitted that, having been unable to remove former Public Prosecutor Abdel Meguid Mahmoud by ordinary means, Morsi simply changed the constitution to make it feasible (this was supposed to be one of the sections of the declaration that rendered it palatable to the public). Equally remarkably, the MB members of the Constituent Assembly even overrode the advice of the assembly chair and ally, Hosam al-Gheriani, to deny former leaders of Hosni Mubarak's National Democratic Party political rights for a decade and to grant members of the government's prosecutorial staff judicial immunity. Al-Gheriani was reduced to leaving the dais of the assembly in protest against these provisions. He described the one as political vengeance and the other as an assault on the rights of citizens.
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http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/12/10/egypts_political_crisis
Catherina
(35,568 posts)34m نشرة القاهرة? نشرة القاهرة? ?@cairowire
'national dialogue' in #egypt was just empty symbolism, writes @hahellyer http://is.gd/L1zqOf #dostor #MB #NSF (via @betsy_hiel)
HA Hellyer
Dec 11, 2012
The crisis in Egypt is over after two weeks of turmoil. President Mohammed Morsi met with the opposition on Saturday, and the two sides have come to an agreement - there are some rabble-rousers who are against Mr Morsi no matter what, but they're basically crying over spilt milk and cannot really be satisfied in any event.
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That is the narrative, at least, that is being offered to the media. The reality, however, is quite different.
Mr Morsi did not, in fact, meet "the opposition" on Saturday, or resolve his differences with them in a marathon set of talks. The reality is that the opposition figures who have been significant over the past two weeks did not even show up.
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And some of those who did show up left almost immediately, including Mr Morsi - the president gave a speech that lasted only a few minutes, and then handed over responsibility to his vice-president, Mahmoud Mekki. When Mr Al Awa then spoke on behalf of the "national dialogue" later on, it was clear that the actual opposition was not participating.
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Read the rest: http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/national-dialogue-in-egypt-was-just-empty-symbolism#ixzz2EfhwivYN
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Basil El-Dabh ?@BasilElD
FJP just released a statement apologizing for using the photo of Ahmed Faissal, who is not an MB member and didn't die, at Badie presser.
(1 down, 6 more *apologies* to make)
Catherina
(35,568 posts)8m نشرة القاهرة? نشرة القاهرة? ?@cairowire
official text of law 107 which gives military officers the right to arrest civilians: http://is.gd/uxsKiS #egypt (via @MaiE_89)
(In Arabic)
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Nora Younis ?@NoraYounis
اغبى من كدا مفيش Public Prosecution: Presidential office accuses Youm7 editor-in-chief, journalist of slandering Morsy
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Menna منّة ?@TheMiinz
Morsy has met with PM, VP, MOD, and Intelligence Chief today to discuss referendum and other cases. #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Tarek Shalaby ?@tarekshalaby
I invite you to read my post on article 53 of the constitution put forward by Morsi: When SCAF and MB unite: http://shala.by/4o #Jan25
As we find ourselves in turmoil, theres a lot to talk (and fight to the death) about.
The Muslim Brotherhoods Morsi whipped out a jaw-dropping decree to protect the revolution while conveniently having the MB-dominated Islamists cook up a constitution overnight. The entire process is outrageous, and very few non-blindly-Brotherhood would brag about how representative the committee was, or how revolutionary the constitution can ever become. But theres no reason to whine about everyones enemy. A follow-up decree just successfully made this all more confusing, and kept the SCAF-backed MB grip on power solid.
What is truly disturbing is the ever more clear collaboration between SCAF and MB that has Islamists believing this constitution is as close we can get to being ruled by the holy Quran, while remnants of Mubaraks regime are inclined to support SCAF against an Islamic takeover. As if both sides, who are politically opposite but economically identical, are speaking out their preconceptions without even reading the constitution.
Theres nothing Islamic about the constitution. Nothing. In fact, a minority of Salafis spoke out their concerns regarding the secularism at a time that is seen as a golden opportunity to apply Gods rule. This constitution is SCAFs work; a collection of articles that even Mubarak wouldve been reluctant to include if he wasnt absolutely certain the executive branch was permanently his, the legislative of his party, and the judicial well just like we have it today intact and unchanged. The constitution will allow for Islamic rulers to go Islamic on us, but it can also allow for a secular dictatorship.
Makes you feel SCAF were touched and flattered by how Morsi took the bullet to make sure they continue ruling behind the scenes. Surprises like how the Ministry of Interior is unchanged, and in fact worsened, make you wonder if even Sabbahi wouldve been any different.
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Read the rest: http://tarekshalaby.com/2012/12/article-53-scaf-and-mb-unite/
Catherina
(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
After slamming ElBaradei re his comment on the holocaust, turns out alIrian made similar comment on his page in2011 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=512279938816841&set=a.235996836445154.65674.204290409615797&type=1&theater
Catherina
(35,568 posts)The Daily News Egypt ?@DailyNewsEgypt
Court strike continues http://dailynewsegypt.com/2012/12/10/court-strike-continues/
Liliana Mihaila / December 10, 2012 / No Comments
Another general meeting of the Judges Club is required for suspension to be lifted
The suspension of several Egyptian courts goes on despite the decision of a number of judicial bodies to supervise the referendum on the constitution, due to be held on 15 December.
The Judges Club announced the suspension in its general assembly, which is due in two weeks time, as a response to the constitutional declaration released by President Mohamed Morsy on 21 November. The declaration was seen by the Judges Club as a transgression against the judiciary. The club also threatened any judges who do not abide by its decision with suspension.
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Judicial bodies have gone strike to an unprecedented level during the past two weeks. The Cassation Court, the Appeals Court and most primary courts in Cairo are still suspending work. The Cassation Court, which sits atop of the judicial hierarchy, held a general assembly meeting late November and voted 270 to 19 to suspend work until Morsy rescinds his declaration.
The 21 November declaration allowed Morsy to dismiss former Prosecutor General Abdel Meguid Mahmoud and replace him with Talaat Abdallah, who Morsy chose unilaterally. Judges saw the decree as an attack on the independence of the judiciary but the president insisted it was necessary in order to protect the revolution from corrupt individuals.
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http://dailynewsegypt.com/2012/12/10/court-strike-continues/
Catherina
(35,568 posts)The Daily News Egypt ?@DailyNewsEgypt
Al-Dostour to campaign for referendum No vote http://dailynewsegypt.com/2012/12/10/al-dostour-to-campaign-for-referendum-no-vote/
Liliana Mihaila / December 10, 2012 / No Comments
Party heads seek boycott but youth to go forward with campaign
Members of the Al-Dostour Party are planning a comprehensive campaign to educate as much of the population as possible about the constitution before it is put to referendum on Saturday.
The campaign will also direct attention to aspects of the constitution that worry the party and encourage people to vote No.
This effort is despite a decision by the National Salvation Front (NSF), which includes Al-Dostour head Mohamed ElBaradei as the fronts coordinator, to boycott the referendum rather than vote No. In the NSFs Sunday evening statement they made clear that they refuse the December 15 referendum.
The senior members, ElBaradei, Sabahy, Amr Moussa, they refused the whole thing, but the youth in the Al-Dostour and The Popular Current and other parties, they agreed to say No, said Al-Dostour founding member Jermeen Nasr.
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http://dailynewsegypt.com/2012/12/10/al-dostour-to-campaign-for-referendum-no-vote/
Catherina
(35,568 posts)magdi abdelhadi ?@maegdi
Salafis threaten an all out Islamic war if Mursi is ousted. who r they threatening ? must be the army. #Egypt#algeria
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Gigi Ibrahim ?@Gsquare86
Very cold, low in numbers, and quiet in #Ithadyia but tents are up few hundreds are still sitting in, preparing for tomorrow's marches
Catherina
(35,568 posts)marlyn ?@virtualactivism
Tahrir News says army beginning to deploy all over Cairo and governorates to 'secure referendum'. #egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Jano Charbel ?@JanoCharbel
Other than #Egypt's draft, is there any constitution in the world that enshrines child labor, forced labor & military trials for civilians?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Witchy ?@nagoul1
Even if #Morsi goes, the CONstitution might remain. #Egypt
Yeah, get ready for the razzle dazzle, hocus pocus "change" charade. It won't fool anyone in Egypt but the PTB will try.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Yąsmine Khalifa ?@jazkhalifa
Youm7 editor & journalist accused of slandering #Morsi http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/youm7-editor-journalist-accused-slandering-morsy
#Censorship #MorsiMubarak #MB #Egypt #fb
Youm7 editor, journalist accused of slandering Morsy
Al-Masry Al-Youm
Mon, 10/12/2012 - 20:53
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The complaint was based on an op-ed in the paper about the clashes at the presidential palace, when supporters of Morsy and the Muslim Brotherhood descended on an opposition sit-in against the constitutional declaration and the referendum on the draft constitution.
Shafie alleges in her article that the Muslim Brotherhood was responsible for killing six people and torturing various political activists. The president's office claims the article defames the president.
The Muslim Brotherhood denies the allegations, claiming that all those killed or injured in the clashes were in fact Brotherhood members, despite video footage and protester testimony demonstrating that members of the Muslim Brotherhood were involved in torturing protesters before handing them over to the police.
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Media presenter Mohamed Saad was released on bail last week after being interrogated on allegations of insulting the president. Also last week, the broadcast of presenter Hala Fahmys show was cut when she criticized the president on air, and she was later referred to the public prosecution.
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/youm7-editor-journalist-accused-slandering-morsy
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Dan Murphy ?@bungdan
The Muslim Brotherhood and the Egyptian military are friends together (for now). http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/1210/Muslim-Brotherhood-s-unlikely-new-ally-Egypt-s-military?nav=87-frontpage-entryNineItem
Muslim Brotherhood's unlikely new ally? Egypt's military
Egyptian boys sit in front of graffiti and Arabic, bottom. that reads, 'regime your afraid of a paint brush and a pen,' in Tahrir Square in Cairo, Monday, Dec. 10. The Egyptian military on Monday assumed joint responsibility with the police for security and protecting state institutions until the results of a Dec. 15 constitutional referendum are announced. Hassan Ammar/AP
Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood have made their peace with a military elite that hounded them for decades.
Yesterday, Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi raised taxes on a host of goods and services, among then alcohol, tobacco, advertising, and construction rebar. Then at around 2 a.m. today, he suspended the tax increases with a short update to his public Facebook account.
The image of President Morsi in his pajamas padding to his computer to change legislation with a few keystrokes is, in essence, what's filling Egyptian human rights activists and secular politicians with so much dread. Morsi can legislate at whim. And he's demonstrated an appetite for doing so.
Now, he and the Muslim Brotherhood that propelled him to power appear to be accommodating themselves to the authoritarian institutions that worked so well during the country's nearly 60 years of military-backed dictatorship. Concessions have been made to protect the military's autonomy and business interests, and in return Morsi appears to have secured the cooperation of the military.
One law he passed yesterday and did not rescind in a late-night bought of leader's remorse will put that cooperation to the test. The law empowers the Egyptian military to arrest civilians as deemed necessary to maintain "public order" until a referendum on a new Egyptian constitution, scheduled for Dec. 15, is finished. "Public order" offenses were a favorite method of Mubarak's police state for controlling and punishing political dissent.
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Read more: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/1210/Muslim-Brotherhood-s-unlikely-new-ally-Egypt-s-military?nav=87-frontpage-entryNineItem
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Witchy ?@nagoul1
I have not voted once since the revolution. Every single referendum and vote to date has been tailored/rigged by the government. #Egypt
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Hani Shukrallah ?@HaniShukrallah
Salafist preacher warns of 'Islamic revolution' if opposition attempts coup http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/60231.aspx via @ahramonline
Salafist preacher warns of 'Islamic revolution' if opposition attempts coup
Saeed Abdel-Azim accuses opposition leaders of following US diktats, vows that any attempt to unseat Egypt's elected president would be met with 'Islamic revolution of unprecedented numbers'
Ahram Online, Monday 10 Dec 2012
Leading member of the Salafist Call in Alexandria Saeed Abdel-Azim warned on Monday of an "Islamic revolution" if Egypt's political opposition "attempted to overthrow" the country's elected president, Mohamed Morsi.
"If secularists try to topple President Morsi or storm the presidential palace, we will not stand still," Abdel-Azim declared at a Monday conference in the coastal city of Alexandria. "We will organise a massive Islamic revolution in Egypt involving unprecedented numbers."
The popular Salafist preacher also accused leaders of Egypt's political opposition of "receiving foreign funds" and of being influenced by the US, which, he alleged, was trying to sow chaos in Egypt for Israel's sake.
"They are the enemies of Islam," Abdel-Azim said of certain opposition leaders.
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http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/60231.aspx
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Egypt Independent ?@EgyIndependent
Army prepares to secure constitutional referendum http://dlvr.it/2cbHVR
MENA
Egypt Independent
Mon, 10/12/2012 - 21:06
The Armed Forces on Monday began to deploy troops in Cairo and other governorates to secure polling stations for Saturdays constitutional referendum.
The deployment comes after President Mohamed Morsy on Sunday gave the military the authority to arrest civilians until the result of the referendum is declared. Under Morsys order, the military would support the police and liaise with them to protect vital institutions.
The decree gave army officers the right to make arrests and transfer detainees to prosecutors.
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http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/army-prepares-secure-constitutional-referendum?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Sarah El Sirgany ?@Ssirgany
.@elbaradei estimates opposition to Morsi's decisions to be about 70 percent of the country
Gregg Carlstrom ?@glcarlstrom
ElBaradei: "The economy is falling apart, we're going to default in six months."
Tweets from 2 hours ago about El Baradei's appearance on CNN today
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Lilian Wagdy ليليان ?@lilianwagdy
It seems Facbook is down in Egypt. Anyone else have the same problem in their countries?
Elazul ?@Elazul
Someone in egypt unable to connect to facebook , run CMD , & type tracert http://www.facebook.com & see where the connection fails.
Nada Wassef ?@Nadawassef
Tweeps reporting that #Tahrir is being attacked. Amy confirmation Re that? Details?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Nada Wassef ?@Nadawassef
Apparently #Tahrir is under attack,tweeps reporting molotov&gunshots used in attack,assailants unknown. #Egypt 1:18 am
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Continued here: Highlights from Egypt, Dec 10 2012 (Part 2) Tahrir Under Attack http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021957747