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Bake

(21,977 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:02 PM Dec 2012

PSY still performing at Christmas in Washington concert? Obama makes a huge mistake to attend ...

After the uproar about his anti-American lyrics, if PSY is permitted to perform at the Washington concert, and if the President attends, he is making a huge mistake.

PSY apologized. Why? Becuase he is making a mint off of America. He doesn't want to endanger that. That is ALL, the ONLY reason for the apology.

Cancel his gig at the concert. Today. Screw him and his Gangnam Style.

Bake

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PSY still performing at Christmas in Washington concert? Obama makes a huge mistake to attend ... (Original Post) Bake Dec 2012 OP
How DARE he have an opinion!!! He must be destroyed!!!!!!!!!!! (nt) jeff47 Dec 2012 #1
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #2
I don't get the outrage over PSY gollygee Dec 2012 #3
Your concern is duly noted Tempest Dec 2012 #4
Is there an uproar? WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #5
Just more faux outrage Tempest Dec 2012 #7
Pretty sure in the United States we value free speech Report1212 Dec 2012 #6
This is not a free speech issue ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #9
I live in the DC area Report1212 Dec 2012 #10
Me wanting to ban shitty music was a joke.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #14
Why would they end their performance with him? Report1212 Dec 2012 #40
Really? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #41
So you're claiming someone paid him for his political statement? Tempest Dec 2012 #11
You're conflating issues ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #16
I guess I don't understand what kind of mistake the president is making. Jazzgirl Dec 2012 #8
The concert was yesterday. bunnies Dec 2012 #12
LOL! He should still cancel Psy's performance!!1!111 morningfog Dec 2012 #13
Retroactively! bunnies Dec 2012 #15
LOL to this and this whole subthread gollygee Dec 2012 #18
He looks so happy to be making Yankee money ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #19
And he'll probably make even more of it now... bunnies Dec 2012 #22
I doubt it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #26
Except that... bunnies Dec 2012 #29
I dunno.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Fridays Child Dec 2012 #17
Here's the deal, see Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #20
All of Korea was angry at the time: two 14-year Korean girls killed by US Army frazzled Dec 2012 #30
Aren't you on the wrong website? WeekendWarrior Dec 2012 #21
I think we're past the point where we need to see everything through a political lens. randome Dec 2012 #23
RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!1 frylock Dec 2012 #24
Did you get rid of all the Dixie Chicks CDs you owned? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #25
you aren't going to reply to any posts in this thread are you snooper2 Dec 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author jeff47 Dec 2012 #43
Yeah it might cost Obama his next election. CBGLuthier Dec 2012 #28
yes f*ck freedom to express one's self...cant have that shit in the good ole USA.... bowens43 Dec 2012 #31
Concert is over. Yesterday. Get over it. countryjake Dec 2012 #32
The concert was a benefit for the Children's National Medical Center...a good cause Neurotica Dec 2012 #34
I'm poutraged! POUTRAGED!!!!!11one n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #35
No biggie. NCTraveler Dec 2012 #36
He apologized, get over it. n/t Kurska Dec 2012 #37
It's even worse than you think. The First Family even rubbed elbows with *GASP* ... pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #38
I just have to say...that is a really cool Cha Dec 2012 #42
Mitt Romney can trash the American people and come within 5% of being President, tarheelsunc Dec 2012 #39
FFS malaise Dec 2012 #44

Response to jeff47 (Reply #1)

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
3. I don't get the outrage over PSY
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:09 PM
Dec 2012

It's certainly not hte first pop, rock, or rap song to have ridiculously stupid and high shock value lyrics to sell records and/or make a political point.

I don't know the reason for the apology. You might be right, or he might have meant for the lyrics to be a crazy exaggeration to make a political point, and hadn't thought he'd become so internationally famous where people would look into his past and take it literally, and where it would become an issue as it has.

But I do agree that it will cause Obama problems if he goes. Republicans keep beating this "Obama hates America" drum, and it plays into that. OTOH, he won't be up for re-election again, so I don't know how much damage it can do.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
4. Your concern is duly noted
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:13 PM
Dec 2012

PSY is entitled to his opinion, regardless of who it is shared by.

I for one don't believe he was far off in his statement.

I've been gone for a while. What happened to the Unrec ability?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
9. This is not a free speech issue
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:19 PM
Dec 2012

I agree that it's much ado about nothing from the right, although I'm all for banning shitty music. But still, it's not about "free speech". Especially since I'm sure someone's paying him handily.

Report1212

(661 posts)
10. I live in the DC area
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:20 PM
Dec 2012

A lot of people wanted to go see his performance I'm sure. Why not? It's a free speech issue when people talk about banning his music. If you don't like his music don't go.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
14. Me wanting to ban shitty music was a joke....
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:25 PM
Dec 2012

....but the point is that no one would stop him from singing on a street corner or saying whatever he wants elsewhere. He's getting paid money to appear at a concert as a performer. If the promoters of that concert decide to end their business deal with him for whatever reason, it is not suppressing free speech any more than it would be for promoters to cancel an appearance by Ted Nugent after what he said about Obama because they don't want him having their platform.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/28/ted-nugent-concert-obama_n_1461204.html

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
41. Really?
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 05:30 PM
Dec 2012

I don't know how these things run, but I'd assume they would do just as well with or without him. Most people turn up for these yearly events because it's exactly that....an event, for charity, no matter who is performing. Had this stuff about whatever he said gotten out sooner....the backlash of a boycott could have cost them.

Looking at the list of people that were there, I guess he was the biggest "star"....if you consider Diana Ross no longer a big star. I assumed this concert was one of those huge Kennedy Center affairs with Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Lady GaGa, Maroon Five, etc. etc. but I guess it wasn't.

As far as his being a "huge superstar"? Well, I guess Lou Bega and the Spice Girls had their moments too....

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
16. You're conflating issues
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:28 PM
Dec 2012

I'm telling you he's getting paid for this concert, hence why he's pulling a mea culpa, and hence why the promoter has every right to pull the plug if they wish.

I have no idea what he got for his original statement....although I assume if it was on an album, he had a contract, no?

Jazzgirl

(3,744 posts)
8. I guess I don't understand what kind of mistake the president is making.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:19 PM
Dec 2012

Psy is an entertainer. He made some political statements years ago. Lots of people have made political statements over the years. Otherwise he is irrelevant.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
26. I doubt it
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:49 PM
Dec 2012

Unlike wingnuts on the right who would listen to a guy farting into a coffee can if that guy said something anti-Obama, I don't think the small handful of people who might agree with this dude are gonna line up for his goofy crap as a show of support.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
29. Except that...
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:56 PM
Dec 2012

as you can see in this thread, showing support doesnt necessarily = agree. And considering that his "goofy crap" is the most watched you tube video of all time, I'd tend to think that support is not something he'll be lacking.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
33. I dunno....
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 04:16 PM
Dec 2012

If you've ever watched the movie "Idiocracy", it signals to me being the most watched video on You Tube ever nowadays is nothing to brag about. I'm sure "Ow, My Balls!" will soon overtake it.

Response to Bake (Original post)

 
20. Here's the deal, see
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:31 PM
Dec 2012

PSY got a music degree in Boston. He stated he wouldn't have made it without America. He was just angry at the time on certain americans, not the nation. Get it right.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
30. All of Korea was angry at the time: two 14-year Korean girls killed by US Army
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:57 PM
Dec 2012

when an armored vehicle ran them over during training maneuvers. And then they were acquitted of negligent homicide.

This "Yanju highway incident" was probably an accident, but surely many of you here remember the great outpouring of grief and anger over this incident.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
21. Aren't you on the wrong website?
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:31 PM
Dec 2012

People here tend to believe that we have a right to say what we want to say and sometimes actually have a good reason to say what we want to say and when we get it wrong, an apology is accepted.

I'd rather include than exclude, thank you.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. I think we're past the point where we need to see everything through a political lens.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:42 PM
Dec 2012

That's not saying we should forget that it is, after all, politics. But I don't hear any conservatives raising an uproar over this so I don't think we should, either.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
27. you aren't going to reply to any posts in this thread are you
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:53 PM
Dec 2012

we won't bite, we promise!

Oh nevermind, now I see you CAN'T reply

Response to snooper2 (Reply #27)

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
31. yes f*ck freedom to express one's self...cant have that shit in the good ole USA....
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 04:04 PM
Dec 2012

unbelievable.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
32. Concert is over. Yesterday. Get over it.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 04:07 PM
Dec 2012

No americans were harmed in the creation of Psy's performance.

Neurotica

(609 posts)
34. The concert was a benefit for the Children's National Medical Center...a good cause
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 04:32 PM
Dec 2012

Regardless of your feelings about PSY, it was good for the president to support an institution that provides for children in great need. My kids have both been patients at Children's, and the hospital is deserving of all the support it can get.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
36. No biggie.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 04:52 PM
Dec 2012

I hear PSY is going to be upstaged by Robert Van Winkle.

PSY. He did a bowling alley a couple of nights ago.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
38. It's even worse than you think. The First Family even rubbed elbows with *GASP* ...
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 05:00 PM
Dec 2012

...elves! (The "elves" are former patients of the National Children's Medical Center, the charity that the concert is staged to benefit.)

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
39. Mitt Romney can trash the American people and come within 5% of being President,
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 05:08 PM
Dec 2012

an entertainer can't have an opinion about some reprehensible actions by our military? Obviously his remarks weren't "elegantly stated" as Mitt Romney would say, but he has a point. With that said, he really should have left the wives and daughters out of it, that was unnecessary. But just look at what things American entertainers say and don't lose publicity for.

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