Democrats have a special unique way of saying "I'm full of shit"

[Bucky]

"I don't know if I can vote for Clinton in 2016 if she's our nominee."

Anyone who says that doesn't have a solid grasp on the meaning of the word "our".

[oasis]

1. Hill by a landslide.

Get on board now. The Clinton's have the "know how".

[Bucky]

10. I'm amused by you putting "know how" in quotes, like they don't really know how

That's very "clever" of you

[msongs]

2. hillary is no more entitled to the white house than was ann romney. she will have to earn it nt

[Salviati]

3. I'm sure that this is a lesson that she learned in 2008.

If she wants the nomination, I'm sure she'll do her best to earn it. And if she does, I will vote for her with enthusiasm.

But in the meantime, we have 2014 to worry about. We have to try to break this fortress the republicans have built for themselves in the house.

[loyalsister]

7. Thank you!

2014 is what we need to be thinking about. Fielding and grooming candidates to help take back the house. Congressional districts are small enough that local involvement can truly make a difference.

[oasis]

11. Hill will be on the 2014 campaign trial endorsing our candidates. She'll dwarf

Sarah Palin in terms of impact.

[oasis]

8. Hillary=Ann Romney?

get real pilgrim.

[marmar]

12. I don't think the point was that Hillary=Ann Romney, it was that.....

...... she's not entitled to anything. If she wants to be the nominee, she needs to get out and earn it the old-fashioned way. There will be no coronation.

[lumberjack_jeff]

16. They're both women?

If that isn't the basis, then the comparison is without merit.

[gollygee]

9. Has Ann Romney served as a senator or as sec'y of state?

No one is "entitled" to be POTUS, but H. Clinton absolutely has more going for her than Ann Romney as far as that goes.

[oasis]

13. Huh? You should be replying to post #2.

I was rebuking his assertion.

[gollygee]

14. It was a response to #2

And yes I agree with you.

[thelordofhell]

4. We're looking at 16 years of having the Democratic Party in The White House

And people still will complain..........

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

5. When I read that, I laughed

I want to win. Period. I will support whichever Democrat gives us the best chance of winning. Period.

I was not a Hillary supporter in 2008, but as of right now I am.

[Bucky]

18. I wrote the OP, but I'm not

that big of a Clinton supporter. Oh, I think she's done a bang up job as SecState, but as hard as that job it, it's not a domestically divisive one. She's not been really mixing it up as a politician for the last four years. But the real problem with her is history. When Dems nominated young turks (Kennedy, Clinton, Obama) we win. When we go with old guard stalwarts (Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale) we lose. Unfair? Hell yes, as unfair as the rest of history is.

The point of my OP is that if... IF... Clinton is nominated all real Dems will fall in line. She's exceptionally well qualified for the job. Whoever (on DU) says they won't fall in line and support her is full of shit and can be safely ignored.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

19. Someone else wrote that, seriously, elsewhere

I thought that's why you made the OP.

The old guard statement has some truth, but I do think she's got a slightly different demographic edge than any of those candidates you mentioned that makes her unique. When I think of "old guard"....I think of our other front runner....Joe Biden.

[HiPointDem]

6. wait, i thought she wasn't running. many DUers swore it up & down, and she herself said so, I

believe.

no more bush/clinton dynasties.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

15. I'm concerned that the entitlement games on the left are just as bad as they are on the right.

I never thought Democrats would learn to mimic the "it's our turn" politics that exist on the right.

I thought we were Democrats. Not Republicans.

[lumberjack_jeff]

17. My opinion of HRC has dropped somewhat.

Since she retired as SoS because her exercise routine was suffering.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/hillary-clinton-retirement-secretary-of-state_n_2118697.html

[Bucky]

20. *snort*

She didn't leave her post at State b/c she wanted more treadmill time. That's not the kind of race she's interested in. Such comments, taking her words out of context and then twisting them into pretzels, make you look frivolous. She was saying from Day One she'd only hang around for Obama's first term. It's quite common (in fact, it's the norm) for SecStates to leave the job after or during the first term. She's a perfectly normal pol in that respect.

Her turn at State has won her a great deal of world and domestic respect. She's shown many skeptics that she's a woman of substance and political heft. Disputing her nearly flawless performance in charge of Obama's diplomacy does not reflect well on any opinionist.

[adirondacker]

21. I thought this thread had to do with turncoats of another kind....

seems to be a popular movement within the party even in the bluest of states...
http://www.theolympian.com/2012/12/10/2348726/2-dems-to-work-with-gop-to-control.html