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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 05:37 PM Dec 2012

Sherrod Brown Exposes GOP’s Motives For Deep Entitlement Cuts

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/12/10/1307551/sherrod-brown-exposes-gops-motives-for-deep-entitlement-cuts/

As President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) continue to do battle over a fiscal cliff deal, another Ohio legislator, Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH), soundly rejected the idea that Republicans are truly concerned with saving public programs like Social Security and Medicare. On Monday, Brown appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe to blast the Republicans’ insistence on including severe cuts in entitlement programs to avert the impending fiscal cliff.

Brown stood firm when Morning Joe host Mika Brzezinski pressed him on possibly raising the Medicare eligibility age, which Democrats are considering as part of the compromise. When Brzezinski claimed that Republicans are right to argue that Medicare and Social Security are unsustainable and could go bankrupt without reforms, Brown explained the broader anti-government ideology behind the cuts:

BRZEZINSKI: I feel like there’s a disconnect. First of all, you’ve got a lot of Republicans promulgating small businesses will be hurt. It’s not true. But I also feel like in return, there is this concept that Republicans are looking like the boogeyman who want to take away Medicare from everybody when they really want to make it solvent. When they really want to make it last into the future, when they really want to make this country’s fiscal irresponsibility come together and make sense.

BROWN: [...] When Newt Gingrich had a chance or President Bush had a chance, they wanted to shift costs onto beneficiaries by in part turning Social Security over to Wall Street. There has been a movement among conservative Republicans of a bit of a distaste for Social Security and Medicare. They’re public programs that are successful, and if it’s proven that these public programs are successful, it sort of undercuts their view that government can’t do anything right. Government has never been late on a social security check in 75 years since its first payment in 1940. We have seen two very successful public programs and there are always efforts to shift costs.

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Sherrod Brown Exposes GOP’s Motives For Deep Entitlement Cuts (Original Post) cal04 Dec 2012 OP
here's the actual problem: "raising the Medicare eligibility age, which Democrats are considering" HiPointDem Dec 2012 #1
Raising the Medicare entry age would be stupid and hifiguy Dec 2012 #2
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
1. here's the actual problem: "raising the Medicare eligibility age, which Democrats are considering"
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 05:44 PM
Dec 2012

why are democrats even 'considering' this?

stand against it & the majority will support democrats.

let the republicans threaten to shut down the government if they don't get it & watch their support decrease. force them into the open.

but that would bust the myth that there is some kind of 50-50 split on this issue that demands compromise.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. Raising the Medicare entry age would be stupid and
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 05:55 PM
Dec 2012

counterproductive. Those 65-67 year-olds are on average far healthier than people a decade or two older and use far less Medicare services. The real money gets spent on end-of-life care. But there are a lot of seniors like my mom. When she was diagnosed with a slow-growing colon cancer at 86 she told the doctor that "no one has cut into me in my entire life and you're not going to start now." Six months later she quietly slept away, having had nothing but palliative care in the hospice. Her call all the way.

Oy, the stoopid of some people.

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