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Stinky The Clown

(67,807 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:33 AM Dec 2012

The least abridged "right" in America is the right to own a gun

Free speech has limits. The right to love who you choose how you choose has limits. The right to smoke has limits. The right to booze has limits. The right to drive has limits. These and other limits are adjusted with time and circumstance.

Not only is the "right" to own a gun the least abridged, it has, over the last 20 or 30 years, become increasingly less abridged.

The time for limits on guns is long past due.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


The Supremes are wrong about this granting individual people the right to own guns. I am amazed that the right wing strict constructionists blew this one so badly. In the context of the time it was written, this was about the right of the (plural) people (the total citizenry) to maintain a well regulated militia. When we started standing up a serious, professional military (yes, the technical start of the military predates this, but it was, indeed, that "well regulated militia" alluded to in the amendment) the need for the militia ended.

By the way, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness has, in my mind, a far greater imperative that gun ownership. Many who own guns have not seen fit to afford to some groups of their fellow citizens, those particular rights. (See, eg,: Marriage, Same Sex, Illegal).




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The least abridged "right" in America is the right to own a gun (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 OP
Can anything be said without argument-ruining hyperbole? cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #1
Agreed bossy22 Dec 2012 #4
Mainly made that complicated to appease those who want guns. Loudly Dec 2012 #5
The 2nd amendment is probably the most regulated right in BOR bossy22 Dec 2012 #2
This Activist SCOTUS didn't make it a Right, they made it a Commandment. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #3
Well said Stinky. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #6
You missed important commas intaglio Dec 2012 #7

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
1. Can anything be said without argument-ruining hyperbole?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:38 AM
Dec 2012

Guns are more regulated than most of our rights.

They are probably not regulated enough, but are obviously more regulated than books and newspapers.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
5. Mainly made that complicated to appease those who want guns.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:45 AM
Dec 2012

We could take care of the gun and ammo problem with fifty words or less.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
2. The 2nd amendment is probably the most regulated right in BOR
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:40 AM
Dec 2012

More pages of statute are related to regulating firearms than any other constitutionally related issues.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
7. You missed important commas
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:28 AM
Dec 2012

Seriously

A well regulated militia (comma) being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms (comma) shall not be infringed.

The extra commas make the RKBA clause subordinate to the militia clause.
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