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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:16 AM Dec 2012

KKK Counterprotests Westboro Church Picketing School Shooting Scene

The anti-gay group, Westboro Baptist Church, has promised to picket at the scene of the Newton, Connecticut elementary school shooting.

WBC member Shirley Phelps-Roper tweeted: “Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment.”

Westboro’s URL is GodHatesFags.com and the members can usually be found picketing fallen LGBT soldiers and celebrity funerals. In a word, they are crazy—so crazy in fact that the Ku Klux Klan plans counter-protest them. When the KKK steps in as the voice of reason, you know you are dealing with the bottom-of-the-barrel crazy.

http://samuel-warde.com/2012/12/kkk-protests-westboro-church/

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KKK Counterprotests Westboro Church Picketing School Shooting Scene (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 OP
Totally ironic. Lint Head Dec 2012 #1
That's pretty weird. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #2
They both can go to hell jsr Dec 2012 #3
It's probably way too early for this observation, sadbear Dec 2012 #4
Nope RomneyLies Dec 2012 #14
The little girl was from Canada does she count as Heather MC Dec 2012 #17
Psst, Canada is in North America n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #19
Psst African American is a made up term from the US Heather MC Dec 2012 #35
Psst, CLUE: ALL terms are made up RomneyLies Dec 2012 #37
Pssst...oh, nothin, I just had a leak. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2012 #40
Now, you made me laugh and so did I. pennylane100 Dec 2012 #42
LOL. This all made me laugh! ToxMarz Dec 2012 #48
psst doesn't mean the Canadians use it. Heather MC Dec 2012 #49
! Bucky Dec 2012 #65
No u4ic Dec 2012 #68
One little girl was Afro-American ReRe Dec 2012 #55
The only possible reaction to this is "lolsob" Chorophyll Dec 2012 #5
^ Yeah, that. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #25
GW's "Only in 'Murica" comes immediately to mind. Why? Care Acutely Dec 2012 #6
I guess the KKK thinks TDale313 Dec 2012 #7
Westboro hasn't yet officially been declared a hate group. Barack_America Dec 2012 #18
Yes, it was declared a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center some time ago. RKP5637 Dec 2012 #20
True. Still, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... TDale313 Dec 2012 #23
Can you explain this "official" designation jazz? jberryhill Dec 2012 #29
I took as a call to go after the groups rather than the individual crimes. Barack_America Dec 2012 #33
"Go after" them how, and for what? jberryhill Dec 2012 #36
Fred Phelps was a significant civil rights attorney shaayecanaan Dec 2012 #51
I remember many years ago when the Nazi skinheads counterprosted a NAMBLA demonstration bluestateguy Dec 2012 #8
Too bizarre for words sarisataka Dec 2012 #9
Shirley Phelps-Roper is one sick, twisted, disgusting monster. Zorra Dec 2012 #10
Wow and Wow! Thanks proud2Blib Cha Dec 2012 #11
Anonymous is wrong, they protest heterosexual soldiers as well. justice1 Dec 2012 #41
I thought I remembered that.. They got most of Cha Dec 2012 #43
Their protests are not directed at the fallen soldiers sexuality, usually that is not reported. ToxMarz Dec 2012 #50
That's truly...it's just a strange old world, is all I can say. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #12
"No friends whatsoever." Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #13
Hopefully, both groups will fully execise their Second Amendment rights. leveymg Dec 2012 #15
Hehehe. I wonder if the NRA and the GOA will show up and they'll all duke it out. freshwest Dec 2012 #57
Yep, like antimatter colliding with antimatter!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #61
Hopefully they'll kill each other nt PD Turk Dec 2012 #16
Best response yet Politicalboi Dec 2012 #22
Well that's unexpected. n/t Agschmid Dec 2012 #21
That's it. We are living in a f****** bizarro world now. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #24
Publicity whores dogman Dec 2012 #26
What IS this world coming to? Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #27
To me, it's going to get a hell of a lot better or a hell of a lot worse, but RKP5637 Dec 2012 #60
Positive side: Opens some creative possibilities for counter-protesting both pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #28
If ever there were a time and place for a sinkhole to open up... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #30
Yeah, their maker is calling them home ... they got it confused, thought it was heaven calling ... RKP5637 Dec 2012 #62
The one and only time I will ever say this: K&R for the KKK! (Now I feel sick. Goodnight...) Fearless Dec 2012 #31
Thanks for the alert on this, proud.. Permanut Dec 2012 #32
Nobody likes these people. THey have succeeded in pissing off everyone Gman Dec 2012 #34
Jesus, the people of Newtown have had enough trouble. progressoid Dec 2012 #38
That's what I was thinking 2naSalit Dec 2012 #45
Dafuq AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #39
OK, my head just exploded. Time for bed. n/t TygrBright Dec 2012 #44
I got nothin. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #46
Can someone find out what hotel chain books Westboro Chipper Chat Dec 2012 #47
I am finally having the kind of cognitive dissonance that tells me cliffordu Dec 2012 #52
I know CT is white-bread as all hell... Chan790 Dec 2012 #53
I was raised 20 miles from there - the Klan is around, just not very visible. Look for Ducks Unlim- leveymg Dec 2012 #58
Uh... PopeOxycontinI Dec 2012 #54
No one thinks this is real, do they? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #56
they did it once before xmas74 Dec 2012 #59
Now if we could just get Borat involved in this, it'll be perfect Bucky Dec 2012 #63
Attempting to appear legitimate. Cerridwen Dec 2012 #64
willing myself not to make flippant but very inappropriate comment eShirl Dec 2012 #66
Nothing like a bunch of hate groups creating a circus atmosphere Jamastiene Dec 2012 #67

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
4. It's probably way too early for this observation,
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:20 AM
Dec 2012

and I haven't confirmed it 100%, but from what I've seen, all the victims were white.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
17. The little girl was from Canada does she count as
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:31 AM
Dec 2012

African American? Here father is a muscian they picked The town because of the school system for his daughter. They recently moved to the US from Canada.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
35. Psst African American is a made up term from the US
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:36 AM
Dec 2012

Have people of color from Canada adopted that term?

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
55. One little girl was Afro-American
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:22 AM
Dec 2012

...might be more, as not all victims families released photos.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
18. Westboro hasn't yet officially been declared a hate group.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:32 AM
Dec 2012

So what we have here is a hate group protesting a non-designated hate group for being too hateful.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
23. True. Still, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:45 AM
Dec 2012

Kinda thinking the "yet" and "officially" are probably the key words there.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. Can you explain this "official" designation jazz?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:53 AM
Dec 2012

There was someone who posted a thread on that, and I have no idea who it is that does this "official" designating.

Perhaps you could explain the process.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
33. I took as a call to go after the groups rather than the individual crimes.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:10 AM
Dec 2012

Of which Westboro is not technically committing, I guess. But can they be considered domestic terrorists? Possibly.

I agree that the Anonymous petition doesn't entirely make sense. Are they asking for a presidential decree? What is this "legally"? I don't see a lot of precedent for it.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
51. Fred Phelps was a significant civil rights attorney
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:58 AM
Dec 2012

back in his day. Apparently he was responsible for about half of matters on the federal docket from Topeka, Kansas. Most of them were discrimination cases involving Afro-Americans.

I think his law firm, Phelps Chartered, still takes on quite a few of these matters.

Its significant that out of all the "God hates...." signs they produce, they haven't produced anything targeting Black people, as yet.

The KKK has demonstrated against Phelps before. Most likely this has something to do with it.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. I remember many years ago when the Nazi skinheads counterprosted a NAMBLA demonstration
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:22 AM
Dec 2012

The enemy of my enemy is, still the enemy.

sarisataka

(18,655 posts)
9. Too bizarre for words
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:22 AM
Dec 2012

I...

my mother said if you can't say something nice, don't say anything. For once I will heed her advice

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
10. Shirley Phelps-Roper is one sick, twisted, disgusting monster.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:25 AM
Dec 2012
“Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment.”

Cha

(297,240 posts)
11. Wow and Wow! Thanks proud2Blib
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:25 AM
Dec 2012
Westboro’s URL is GodHatesFags.com and the members can usually be found picketing fallen LGBT soldiers and celebrity funerals. In a word, they are crazy—so crazy in fact that the Ku Klux Klan plans counter-protest them. When the KKK steps in as the voice of reason, you know you are dealing with the bottom-of-the-barrel crazy.
Anonymous –

@kyanonymous, an Internet ‘hacktivist’ has taken credit for hacking the WBC website and has sent a message to the church in a video for the Westboro group. Anonymous explains that the church’s hate supersedes reason and they warn:

“We will not debate, argue or attempt to reason with you. Instead we have unanimously deemed your organization to be harmful to the population of the United States of America and therefore have decided to execute an agenda of action which will progressively dismantle your institution of deceitful pretext and extreme bias…We recognize you as serious opponents and do not expect our campaign to terminate in a short period of time.”

ToxMarz

(2,167 posts)
50. Their protests are not directed at the fallen soldiers sexuality, usually that is not reported.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:52 AM
Dec 2012

They protest any and all fallen soldiers claiming their deaths are God's punishment foe America's tolerance of homosexuality.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
13. "No friends whatsoever."
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:26 AM
Dec 2012

Usually people in that position pause and do a reality check to see if they're part of the problem resulting in this status.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
57. Hehehe. I wonder if the NRA and the GOA will show up and they'll all duke it out.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:55 AM
Dec 2012

On second thought, they'd all agree on almost everything, probably.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
60. To me, it's going to get a hell of a lot better or a hell of a lot worse, but
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:45 AM
Dec 2012

I think the in between zone is fading away. Right now, it's up for grabs. I'm not sure how far and deep the "crazy" goes, whether it's a very loud minority, or across the board. ... I do know what would have been bizarre when I was a kid is now mainstream and more and more the norm ... all of the endless murders, etc. and bizarre hate groups running around.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
28. Positive side: Opens some creative possibilities for counter-protesting both
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:52 AM
Dec 2012

This is one time when I regret being on the "wrong" coast.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
62. Yeah, their maker is calling them home ... they got it confused, thought it was heaven calling ...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:55 AM
Dec 2012

nope ... proceed to the sinkhole.

Permanut

(5,608 posts)
32. Thanks for the alert on this, proud..
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:02 AM
Dec 2012

There are no words to describe how disgusting every part of this is (not your OP, the events described), but it is vitally important to know what all of the wackjobs are up to.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
34. Nobody likes these people. THey have succeeded in pissing off everyone
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:14 AM
Dec 2012

without exception. Helluva achievement.

2naSalit

(86,628 posts)
45. That's what I was thinking
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:26 AM
Dec 2012

Poor town, they certainly need a break. And some assbite called a bomb threat during a service at the catholic church during a sermon on Sunday. Something big has to change here, this is just so out of hand.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
52. I am finally having the kind of cognitive dissonance that tells me
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:04 AM
Dec 2012

I've had too much to drink.

I keep thinking the OP says the KKK is going to block the Westboro Baptist Church in Connecticut.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
53. I know CT is white-bread as all hell...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:12 AM
Dec 2012

I mean I grew up there and I remember...but do they even have klannies there or are the KKK protestors coming from out of state?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
58. I was raised 20 miles from there - the Klan is around, just not very visible. Look for Ducks Unlim-
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:34 AM
Dec 2012

ited and NRA stickers, and a tow hitch with a bass boat attached. Lots of guns. Lots of entrenched hatreds. It's everywhere in America, even the Northeast.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
59. they did it once before
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:43 AM
Dec 2012

A year or two ago. I live close enough to hear regular news from the Topeka market and I remember the KKK counterprotesing once before.

Strange but true.

Cerridwen

(13,258 posts)
64. Attempting to appear legitimate.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:58 AM
Dec 2012

They've done things to appear legitimate throughout their history.

This would be just one more attempt; and it has the added "prestige" of piggy-backing on a tragedy displayed on the national stage.

Some people will probably fall for it. That to me is the saddest part.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
67. Nothing like a bunch of hate groups creating a circus atmosphere
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:40 PM
Dec 2012

during funerals to rub salt in the wounds of the victims. Both groups make me sick.

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