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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:08 PM Dec 2012

This time it's finally happening. The move is on for gun control.

I think a lot of the political allies of the NRA are going to suddenly see themselves as standing out in the thunderstorm of public outrage with lightning rods in their hands. One way or the other, they won't be out there long.

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This time it's finally happening. The move is on for gun control. (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 OP
How is it happening former-republican Dec 2012 #1
start by SHAMING anyone who accepts money from the NRA Skittles Dec 2012 #2
Like that's going to work. atreides1 Dec 2012 #5
yes, I saw them explaining their position on the Sunday talk shows Skittles Dec 2012 #7
Shaming isn't enough. 99Forever Dec 2012 #11
We don't know until we try MightyMopar Dec 2012 #4
I have bad news for you. You are mistaken. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #16
No it's not. atreides1 Dec 2012 #3
It has to be a deal , both sides have to give up something , both sides gain something former-republican Dec 2012 #6
you sound like Boner Skittles Dec 2012 #8
I live in reality and that's how Washington works former-republican Dec 2012 #15
Do what worked in Australia. It is posted somewhere here today and it worked. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #9
I expect the gun nutters to start thowing EVERYTHING at the wall in desperation RomneyLies Dec 2012 #10
Remember how the Right screamed about Global Warming...so someone cleverly renamed it Climate Change libdem4life Dec 2012 #12
MMPI reteachinwi Dec 2012 #13
I agree. We need to keep the pressure on, but this time really is different. reformist2 Dec 2012 #14
NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW! ellisonz Dec 2012 #17
I agree: the tipping point has been reached frazzled Dec 2012 #18
The only way to honor those deaths flamingdem Dec 2012 #19
Unfortunately it's not going to happen. COLGATE4 Dec 2012 #20

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
5. Like that's going to work.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:16 PM
Dec 2012

The ones that disagree are still accepting money from the NRA, and unless you find them wearing garters and stockings...I doubt anything will shame them into not taking that free cash.

 

MightyMopar

(735 posts)
4. We don't know until we try
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:15 PM
Dec 2012

I do know that the government with the help of concerned citizens can make every gundealer's life miserable.

Hey Anonymous, we need your help with these gun pushers.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
3. No it's not.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:14 PM
Dec 2012

What's going on is both sides trying to make points...because no one has defined exactly what they want and what they are willing to settle for.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
6. It has to be a deal , both sides have to give up something , both sides gain something
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:17 PM
Dec 2012

I said that in another thread.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
9. Do what worked in Australia. It is posted somewhere here today and it worked.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:18 PM
Dec 2012

And now is the time to do it because a week from now, if the history of these massacres is any guide, it will all be forgotten and an opportunity once again, missed. Which is what the Gun Lobby is hoping for.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
10. I expect the gun nutters to start thowing EVERYTHING at the wall in desperation
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:19 PM
Dec 2012

I also suspect some of the more recent CT crap being thrown up about the case is also desperate attempts at redirection.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
12. Remember how the Right screamed about Global Warming...so someone cleverly renamed it Climate Change
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:19 PM
Dec 2012

and now we talk about it, somewhat rationally than before. I think Gun Control carries a lot of the same baggage and tends to set off a lot of triggers and I'd just like to bring up the term Gun Management. It sounds less threatening to our more conservative and controlling folk, and more like a professional and organized task of creating order ... not suggesting the "wrenching from the cold, dead hands" from some of our elder folk.

Just a thought.

 

reteachinwi

(579 posts)
13. MMPI
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:22 PM
Dec 2012

I had a student that I helped get his diploma so he could join the military. He was rejected for psychological reasons. The screening tool was probably the MMPI. This should be part of the discussion.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2012027

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. I agree: the tipping point has been reached
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:43 PM
Dec 2012

Public sentiment and political will are coalescing in this moment. Polls show a majority favoring various types of gun-control legislation. Conservative Democrats and some formerly NRA Republicans are coming out in favor. Joe Scarborough even did a big "mea culpa, I've changed my mind" television editorial.

It may not be the exact legislation we want, it may not be strong enough. But it will be the first foot in the door since the 1990s. Let's seize the moment, accept what we can get as a starting point, and keep working from there. Let's not try for "comprehensive" legislation. Let's walk this through one obvious, rational, do-able step at a time.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
20. Unfortunately it's not going to happen.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:43 PM
Dec 2012

All of us are excercised over the massacre in Connecticut, rightly so. But human nature is what it is, and the human mind wants to get away from tragic thoughts asap. With Christmas next week, then New Years plus the Fiscal Cliff on the front page we will be distracted enough so that, by January it'll be business as usual.

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