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Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. Are we sure bombs aren't covered under the second amendment?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:00 PM
Dec 2012

This is also a serious question. I don't see anything in the amendment that says people don't have the right to have bombs.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
4. Explosives are not illegal to possess
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:03 PM
Dec 2012

Their possession and use, and transport, are regulated and subject to licensing.

Why are bombs not covered under the 2 Amendment?

Destructive devices are regulated under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Please read up on the subject.

doc03

(35,338 posts)
5. Apparently arms must not include bombs. Why can't I have a grenade, how about a
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:03 PM
Dec 2012

working rocket launcher, what about a switch blade knife?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. You can with an explosives license
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:04 PM
Dec 2012

Frag grenades per se aren't very useful, but things somewhat like them are used to clear out brush in some situations.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
8. You can buy a grenade if your state law permits it. The federal tax stamp will cost you $200.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:06 PM
Dec 2012

You have to do the paperwork and get your background checked.

As for a rocket launcher, that may be available without any hassle in your state. A live round will cost you a $200 tax stamp, background check, etc.

Switchblade knives have interstate commerce regulated by federal law. State laws concerning commerce, possession, and use are all over the map. I can own them here in California, but I can't carry one with me unless the blade is 2 inches or less. In Oregon they're unregulated.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. How do you think they demolish buildings?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:04 PM
Dec 2012

Most explosives require a Federal Explosives License, and the materials themselves are pretty tightly controlled.

As we saw in Oklahoma City, a truck and some fertilizer makes a pretty effective bomb, though.

doc03

(35,338 posts)
10. So you are proving the point that the 2nd Amendment is is not
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:29 PM
Dec 2012

all inclusive and any weapon could fall under the 1934 law if we demanded it. If they can control explosives and full autos they also control a bolt action if the public demands it. Since muzzle loaders were the state of the art back in the day we could control anything more advanced.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. I didn't know that needed proving; the entire country as far as I know accepts that
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:32 PM
Dec 2012

The problem has never been with putting semi-automatics on the NFA schedule, the problem has been what to do about the hundreds of millions of them that are already out there

doc03

(35,338 posts)
13. So it can't be done, do nothing. It can be done apply it to all guns traded from here on.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:17 PM
Dec 2012

As far as the ones already out there give them a year to bring them in and have them permitted under the law and if you are in possetion of one after that prison time. Don't say it's to hard we can't do it. That is always the NRA argumnet it's to hard, it can't be done, it won't work, etc.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. Our experience with drugs suggests to me it would cause more problems than it solves
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:21 PM
Dec 2012

But, I could be wrong.

Peregrine

(992 posts)
9. Scalia seems to think
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:15 PM
Dec 2012

It covers anything carried by a typical infantryman. To include hand grenades. Madison saw the 2nd meaning just this, citizens had a right to bear arms equivalent to an infantryman.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. That's the explicit reasoning in Miller, IIRC
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:33 PM
Dec 2012

The reason sawed-off shotguns could be banned is because they are of limited military utility. I'd add that the same logic could apply to handguns, which are generally only given to officers (and at least in theory they're mostly for shooting your own troops if they try to run).

 

Marinedem

(373 posts)
15. No.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:48 PM
Dec 2012

"which are generally only given to officers (and at least in theory they're mostly for shooting your own troops if they try to run)."

Just no.

Maybe in the Red Army in the 30's-40's.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. I was thinking more of the 19th century
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:49 PM
Dec 2012

That said, I had a pistol in the Corps, though not everybody did. I can't remember precisely why my billet rated one.

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