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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:49 PM Jan 2013

Trending FB meme showing faked model of "12 week fetus". Please help counter!

There is a trending FB photo showing a faked model of what is said to be a 12 week old fetus cradled in a human hand.

It is a perfectly formed little miniaturized baby and is being spread by those who want to promote an Anti-Choice agenda.

Here is an actual photo of a 12 week fetus.


Here is another:


As you can see, it does not exactly look like the fake model:

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Trending FB meme showing faked model of "12 week fetus". Please help counter! (Original Post) Bonobo Jan 2013 OP
Why no, it certainly does not. nc4bo Jan 2013 #1
And the difference would be?? LIBertea Jan 2013 #2
dishonesty. Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #3
Yep Kalidurga Jan 2013 #4
Yes, I agree. Bonobo Jan 2013 #8
six months & reality spanone Jan 2013 #6
How about if they have to resort to lies to argue their point then they've basically lost nc4bo Jan 2013 #7
Apparently this may be the source of the fake 'model'... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #5
Good find! nt. polly7 Jan 2013 #11
This one looks more realistic. polly7 Jan 2013 #9
Not really. (nt) Control-Z Jan 2013 #16
Not yet close to the photo images, but more realistic than the polly7 Jan 2013 #17
Without pushback, before long, they'll be showing the "pizza pictures"... backscatter712 Jan 2013 #10
With a fully healed umbilical, Control-Z Jan 2013 #12
We had a 28-week preemie and he didn't look that good! Bonobo Jan 2013 #13
The youngest surviving premie on record was 21 weeks LeftInTX Jan 2013 #14
That pic is not the pic of a 21 week old preemie either. Bonobo Jan 2013 #15
Here are some photos on this page. Scroll down to photo 5 & 6 LeftInTX Jan 2013 #18
Thank you for the links. Bonobo Jan 2013 #19
Those pictures look closer to 7 to 8 week fetuses. Crunchy Frog Jan 2013 #20
Sorry but no, here is a 7.5 week fetus. Looks nothing like my pics. Bonobo Jan 2013 #21
thank you for using a credible website liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #22
Yes, I noticed there is a LOT of messing around with the images on google search. Bonobo Jan 2013 #24
My ~12 week ultrasounds of my fetuses looked closer to the pic I posted. Crunchy Frog Jan 2013 #23
Here, from the same site. 11 weeks, 3 days. Bonobo Jan 2013 #25
That picture is not a photograph Crunchy Frog Jan 2013 #26
It is a highly accurate drawing on a specialized website for human development. Bonobo Jan 2013 #27
Even If ... Farmer Fowweather Apr 2013 #28
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12th week abortion intro-verce Apr 2016 #31

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. Why no, it certainly does not.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jan 2013

Sick and tired of these lying hypocrites.

Don't want one, don't have one but butt out of my and everyone else's business.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. Yep
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jan 2013

it shouldn't matter what the fetus looks like. So, they should honestly show what the fetus looks like and let the woman decide based on truth.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
8. Yes, I agree.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jan 2013

The accuracy of the model is only relevant because 1) They are being dishonest and 2) They are springing an emotional response to sidestep the issues of right to choose and liberty to control one's own body and to plan one's own life trajectory.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
7. How about if they have to resort to lies to argue their point then they've basically lost
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jan 2013

all credibility, it's time to STFU and take their own advice and humble themselves before the altar of their Xian god.

Thou shalt not bear false witness and all that stuff.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
17. Not yet close to the photo images, but more realistic than the
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:25 AM
Jan 2013

sculpt in the OP. My humble opinion.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
13. We had a 28-week preemie and he didn't look that good!
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jan 2013

Preemie's look a mess, believe me.

Their color is all fucked up, their skin as a mess. They have tubes stuck all up in their bodies and nose... and they face a long climb and many dangers.

It is just out and out dishonest to show this fake-ass little pink mini-baby and try to present that as "murder" (which is the whole fucked up point) so they can take away a woman's right to choice.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
15. That pic is not the pic of a 21 week old preemie either.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:41 PM
Jan 2013

That is a pic of her when she went home and was 7 lbs.

Preemies don't have fat on their bodies like that. Also, if it was 21 weeks, it would have tubes in its nose, IV's in its feet, etc. Plus a breathing monitor, Blood oxygen monitor, etc.

Searched and found an actual pic of "Little Frieda" and even HERE, I doubt she is just born at 21 weeks, but WAY closer than the photo in that article.

LeftInTX

(25,369 posts)
18. Here are some photos on this page. Scroll down to photo 5 & 6
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:33 AM
Jan 2013
http://www.cafemom.com/group/416/forums/read/15230946/Amazing_birth_records_added_another

(I would post the pics, but they're a bit graphic)

Edited to add info about 12 week fetus: It is just over 2 inches long and weighs about half an ounce
http://www.babycenter.com/0_fetal-development-timeline_10357636.bc

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
19. Thank you for the links.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:51 AM
Jan 2013

2 inches and half an ounce doesn't look too much like that fake-ass propaganda model, does it?

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
20. Those pictures look closer to 7 to 8 week fetuses.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:57 AM
Jan 2013

Not that the model resembles a 12 week fetus. It looks more like a miniature newborn.

Here's probably a good pic of a 12 week fetus.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
22. thank you for using a credible website
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:12 AM
Jan 2013

I did a google image search and there seemed to be quite a discrepancy in what a 12 week old fetus looks like. Not sure you can trust many of them.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
24. Yes, I noticed there is a LOT of messing around with the images on google search.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:17 AM
Jan 2013

It is VERY CLEAR that there is an organized effort aimed at fudging the issue by blitzing the internet with images of fetuses that appear older than they truly are.

It is clear that the religious nuts that want to take away free choice have been busy posting photos of 12 week old fetuses that are actually 16 week, etc. etc.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
23. My ~12 week ultrasounds of my fetuses looked closer to the pic I posted.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:16 AM
Jan 2013

The pics you posted, maybe 8-10 weeks. I don't think 12 weeks.

Maybe I'll get around to posting my 12 week pics tomorrow sometime.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
26. That picture is not a photograph
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:21 AM
Jan 2013

and is probably not very accurate. It looks closer to my ultrasound pics at 10 weeks.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
27. It is a highly accurate drawing on a specialized website for human development.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:26 AM
Jan 2013

Why on earth would you think that you can refute its accuracy?

Here is an actual ultrasound from week 11:

http://pregnancy.about.com/od/pregnancycalendar/ig/11-Week-Ultrasound-Photos/11-Week-3D-Ultrasound.-Tki.htm

The drawing was 11 + 3 days. To me, the lack of cranial development is very clear and distinct.

28. Even If ...
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 02:05 PM
Apr 2013

Even If the fetus were a person, how many people would permit an actual person (homeless?) who had entered because the door was carelessly left open, to remain in their house, administer psycho-active drugs to the hosts, and perform extensive remodelling of the premises?
Lete every man who would not throw that bum out in the cold, sign up to forbid abortions. Let the rest depart, like those who brought an adulteress to Jesus to be stoned.

Response to Farmer Fowweather (Reply #28)

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intro-verce

(8 posts)
31. 12th week abortion
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:10 AM
Apr 2016

Abortion after the 12th week of pregnancy isn't advised by medical experts ([link:http://motherhow.com/12-weeks-pregnant/|). And it's understandable - it becomes dangerous for the mother as well at the time.

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