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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhere Should the Obama Library be Located??
Hey -- the second term is about "Legacy"!
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Chicago, IL | |
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elleng
(130,970 posts)Good luck with that!!!
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)OTOH, I'd love to justify the Hawaii trip to perform "scholarly research."
(I've been to the Truman and FDR libraries, and they are well worth visiting).
elleng
(130,970 posts)which is why I said BOTH!
Johonny
(20,851 posts)and it is a laughfeast. You won't stop giggling the whole time your in it.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)I used to represent a writer that worked with Newt as in "wrote all the fiction books" Newt plugs on FOX and takes all the credit for.
So they have this big signing at the library for the Washington or Gettysburg thing and I have to go.
I meet Newt and Calista, a woman I would never want to play poker with because she gave away nothing all day.
very close to the vest.
The head docent offers us VIPs a private tour, the museums closed for the special signing.
and while the "writers" Newt and Bill go to a special reception with museum donors I join the tour.
I studied Watergate and Vietnam and still to this day think Nixon (and Reagan) were the worst President the nation ever had.
So I'm curious about the museum.
The tour group is: my business partner and me, Calista Gingrich and the family of Rick Tyler Newt's aide (and the guy who wound up running his SuperPac last year) his wife and 10-12 year old daughter.
We go on the tour and Calista is fairly quiet the whole time.
There's Nixon , born poor, House of Rep, VP, President etc blah blah blah.
Then we hit an empty room.
I mean empty of everything to the point where wires and a light fixture are hanging loose from the ceiling.
This the docent tells us is the Watergate room.
He goes to explain how the media set up Nixon but since the National Archive is taking over the museum
(these things are expensive to run privately so you can control your message darn it)
they need to re-do the Watergate exhibit to make it:
and the docent actually uses air quotes here
"fair & balanced"
at this point I look around the empty room and chime:
"it looks pretty bi-partisan now."
And the whole room cracks up, even Calista.
and then the tour was over and I got to go back to Hollywood after the signing.
But my favorite moment was a right wing docent using Fox's term "fair & balanced" to mean "completely biased" in referencing the fact that the National Archive was requiring their museum to now be historically accurate.
virgo7
(16 posts)JoeBlowToo
(253 posts)works for me.
Richard_uk
(20 posts)It will be in a better location, more visited and contain a lot more books than GW's library.
Books that have actually been read.
elleng
(130,970 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Most people can get to Chicago.
Most people can't get to Hawaii
lovuian
(19,362 posts)sorry I broke the tie
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)The library also serves as museum and a repository of artifacts.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It's next to Cheney's funeral parka.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)But I'm a former Hawaii resident.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)U of Hawaii wouldn't be a bad place for the library.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Manoa is the valley of rainbows.
It's where he was born and where his tutu's passed.
bayareamike
(602 posts)JUST KIDDING!
Chicago all the way.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)I thought about adding that as an option out of a sense of mischief.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)That would be awesome just to see heads explode.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)You stole my idea...
But seriously, shouldn't the people of Kenya get something nice for a change?
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)It will be the first time Obama goes liberal
but it won't really be liberal, because it is in Kansas
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)It would also be the 2nd Presidential Library in Kansas (Ike's being the other one)
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)I am not sure of his birthplace.
Russell is halfway towards being a ghost town. At least it was when I went there some 8 years ago. About half the town was vacant houses. I talked a little bit with Dole's sister who was living in his old home.
Dole, however, chose to put his own "library" in Lawrence, the most liberal city in Kansas.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)It should built right next door to the George W. Bush Library and Museum, and built in such a size and shape that W's library never gets so much as an inch of sunlight upon it. That way W's library will forever be living in the shadows of President Obama's library. Much as W's presidency is.
Sivafae
(480 posts)Although, I am aware that Hawaiians believe themselves to be a country occupied by the US.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)and than should be a strong consideration for this man who has given African-American children the understanding that finally, they too can grow up to be President.
Let's give them an easier cheaper chance to visit this hopefully inspiring place than to have to go to Hawaii, the most expensive place for a tourist in the country.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)I grew up there myself -- and my 2 kids' birth certificates look exactly like the POTUS' except for the name -- and I know it is difficult for haoles and other Mainlanders to get it, but we really are a state and we don't exist just for tourists, but in our own right.
Part of the miracle of Barack Obama's presidency is that he is from such a very small and faraway place as the Islands. I still have not gotten over that. Every child in the Islands, every multi-multi-racial child, now knows the possibilities for them wherever they choose to go.
More than that, Hawai'i made Barack Obama who he is. Sure, Chicago is where he found his calling, Chicago is where he made his name and his life. But having read his first book with the eyes and heart of someone who grew up where he did, I can tell you, Hawai'i is in his very bones and heart. He grew up in the Crossroads of the Pacific, open-hearted home to many cultures and races, and to those with eyes to see, it shines forth.
I completely agree with you that Chicago is more accessible -- for Mainlanders. And I completely agree that Library #1 should be there. But Library #2 should be in Honolulu, at the University of Hawai'i, Manoa -- maybe even in the East-West Center where his father studied so long ago.
Aloha,
Hekate
Southern California resident, but you can tell where my heart lies
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)is the biggest one that comes to mind. He was an all-Illinois boy whose presidential library is in Simi CA.
(thank gawd! )
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:50 PM - Edit history (2)
His mother was said to have told one of his high school friends visiting California that they never knew how many friends they had in Dixon until they moved to California and got rich.
Edit: Used the wrong gnu.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I saw your suggestion about NIU downthread. While I would love it since it would be about 25 minutes from my house and the Pres and the divine Mrs. O would be regulars out my way, I can't see it happening alas. If it comes to IL, I presume it will be U of C and the south side.
But still, anywhere in IL would suit me just fine!
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)And the freeway is named after him. We didn't deserve that.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)even Alabama and Mississippi.
petronius
(26,602 posts)Hawaii would fill in a nice blank to the west, but can anyone make a case for Seattle or Portland?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)It only took 213 years to get his
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)mokawanis
(4,442 posts)The obvious choice.
Also, because I live just a few hours from Chicago.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Next to his memorial
derby378
(30,252 posts)...and use it to crush the Bush Presidential Library in Dallas County, TX. Then we build the Obama library there. Simple.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Just fucking with ya, it's got to be Chicago!
theglammistress
(348 posts)It would be a great asset for Hawaii.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Kidding!!!!
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Since I could only vote for one, I gave Honolulu a bump.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Close to Chicago, easily accessible by highway (fittingly, the Ronald Reagan Memorial Highway to Nowhere) and plenty of room (bare land) to grow on.
edit to correct spelling error
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Absolutely.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Where he rose as a politician.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)I mean really people, are future generations going to be able to handle more than 140 characters?
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)the right place to be .
SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)juajen
(8,515 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)But, it would be kind of fun if it was in Kentucky by the Creation Museum so the moonbats would have to see it when they go to their Mecca.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Visit the Bishop Museum and the Palace while you are at it.
MindandSoul
(1,817 posts)with free access for all!
This would make all the other Presidential libraries pretty much absolete!
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)I agree -- all of the document should be digital. That's the direction the archives is moving anyway. But the libraries also serve as museums and repositories of artifacts.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)mucifer
(23,550 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)If he had only minimal ties to Chicago then maybe not. But that's his home, he loves it there, so it's perfectly fitting.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)God only knows how long.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)Is Chuck Schumer NOT a DUer???
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I'm not sure what he's planning on doing afterwards. That might have more to do with it. If his intent is to continue to work in the area of health care, insurance, or veterans care, it might make sense to associate with a teaching hospital/school of some sort.
williamc1967txlib
(25 posts)After all, it was a very important city to Obama. Honolulu is another good place for the library.