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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:12 PM Feb 2013

Catholic Church enslaved 30,000 Irish women as forced unpaid labor in Magdalene Laundries until 1996



Revealing video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21326221

What a horrific story. The Irish Prime Minister gave a partial apology today for the government’s role in a 74-year scandal in which, a new official government report says, over 10,000 women were forced to work without pay at commercial laundries called Magdalene Laundries, operated by the Catholic Church for “crimes” as small as not paying a train ticket.

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The last Magdalene laundry closed in 1996.

The women were locked in and not permitted to leave. And if they tried to get away, the cops would catch them and bring them back. They were quite literally Catholic slave labor working for the government and even Guinness, which would pay the laundries for the women’s slave labor.

Half of the girls enslaved in these Catholic Church prisons were under the age of 23. The youngest entrant was 9 years old.

more:
http://americablog.com/2013/02/magdalen-laundries-catholic-ireland-irish-apology.html
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Catholic Church enslaved 30,000 Irish women as forced unpaid labor in Magdalene Laundries until 1996 (Original Post) kpete Feb 2013 OP
And may every man involved die screaming in agony with Satan smiling into his eyes. aquart Feb 2013 #1
Actually, it was done by the nuns with the men looking the other way.n/t Cleita Feb 2013 #11
That's why Satan will be looking into their eyes. aquart Feb 2013 #27
1996!!!!!!!!!!!!!! joeybee12 Feb 2013 #2
Amazing isn't it? My husband was Irish so we socialized with other Irish. Cleita Feb 2013 #5
Yeah, you'd figure this was turn of the century sh*t...as in from 19th to 20th... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #13
Unwed mothers and others who refused to be subjugated by Catholic male chauvinist morality. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #3
That's more an atrocity of the Irish Church, not all Catholics, but the Cleita Feb 2013 #6
Of course they knew Marrah_G Feb 2013 #21
WTF! Fight2Win Feb 2013 #4
Again this is an abuse in Spain and not by all Catholics, however, Cleita Feb 2013 #7
If Catholics would leave the church ohheckyeah Feb 2013 #15
They need to pressure from within. Culturally going to Cleita Feb 2013 #16
Not just in Spain. It went on in California, too. Ilsa Feb 2013 #33
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2013 #8
BUT what does this have to do with drones Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #9
This is a very insensitive remark. Cleita Feb 2013 #10
Or maybe it has nothing to do with women Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #12
There is a time and place. Cleita Feb 2013 #14
So you felt the need to fuck up this thread with your snark? Marrah_G Feb 2013 #19
Yes. Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #24
No. Being mockingly dismissive of a massive outrage against women is beyond disrespectful. aquart Feb 2013 #29
Nuns used to be very sadistic. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #17
Just another example of why I despise the Catholic Church Marrah_G Feb 2013 #18
One of the reasons my grandmother fled Ireland was because of the church. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #20
The Roman Catholic Church is a truly evil organization. EVIL. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #22
Speaking as a Huguenot, riqster Feb 2013 #23
The Magdalene Sisters film-- Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #25
My relationship with religion has followed the same arc which you have experienced. John1956PA Feb 2013 #26
Another wonderful group of religious people! tabasco Feb 2013 #28
kick Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #30
Few organizations have inflicted as much misery on the world as the RCC. marmar Feb 2013 #31
The Irish Catholic church is taking a big nose dive in attendence, influence, and in power kwassa Feb 2013 #32

aquart

(69,014 posts)
27. That's why Satan will be looking into their eyes.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:18 PM
Feb 2013

Pretending nuns had power in the Catholic Church. Ride flying pigs, do they?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. Amazing isn't it? My husband was Irish so we socialized with other Irish.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:43 PM
Feb 2013

I heard about the laundries from the Irish women we socialized with as far back as 1970. I was dumbfounded that they were still operating until then. I thought when I was being told about this that it was an abuse from the past.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. Unwed mothers and others who refused to be subjugated by Catholic male chauvinist morality.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:09 PM
Feb 2013

If you watch the documentary on this, you will understand why abortion has to remain legal.

This is yet another horrible crime of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church does many good things. They have a wonderful charitable arm. But the Magdalene Laundries are one of their atrocities.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. That's more an atrocity of the Irish Church, not all Catholics, but the
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:45 PM
Feb 2013

fact is the Vatican did nothing about it either. I'm sure they must have known.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
21. Of course they knew
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:38 PM
Feb 2013

They know about all the corruption going on in their ranks and quite frankly I believe they encourage it.

The Pedophile priest here in new England? Oh yes, they take that so seriously that Cardinal Law, a person directly responsible for covering up and allowing these crimes to continue, now sits in a place of high honor in Rome as one of 4 Archbishops. People I love, people ion my family will forever bear the scars of what he has done, yet he sits like a king in their little gold-filled city. Disgusting.

Since it's very beginning the Vatican has been ripe with corruption, lies, scandal, murder and war. When not directly involved they are busy looking the other way.

I come from a family of Catholics, whom I love. They are good people, but they misguided people, continuing to financially support a very corrupt system.

I would like to see at the very least, American Catholics rise up against the Vatican and break free from what I would classify as an organized crime syndicate going back hundreds and hundreds of years.

 

Fight2Win

(157 posts)
4. WTF!
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:37 PM
Feb 2013

What the hell has the catholic church been up to!
The catholic church was just caught stealing hundreds of thousands of babies in Spain over 50 years. They would tell the parents the baby died and then give it to 'more deserving' people.

Isn't this an international crime or something?

All we get is a partial apology

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. Again this is an abuse in Spain and not by all Catholics, however,
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:45 PM
Feb 2013

still the Vatican did nothing. They are guilty in that respect.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
15. If Catholics would leave the church
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:21 PM
Feb 2013

and starve it financially, these things might stop.

What will it take for the rank and file Catholics to say enough?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
16. They need to pressure from within. Culturally going to
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:28 PM
Feb 2013

Mass and other Catholic practices like Baptism, First Communion, Confirmation and other rituals are too ingrained to make many want to leave the Church. The Church is a monarchy and not a democracy and the clergy are pretty much ingrained in working in this medieval way. The Church can issue sanctions like excommunication and tell you you are going to Hell. That scares some true believers. So the Church will never die, but it can change and it's up to the lay parishioners to start pressuring the clergy and their bishops until the Vatican can't ignore it or hide it anymore. You are seeing this happening with the priest pedophile scandals. There will be change, I'm sure of it. It's going to take a movement of practicing Catholics to make it happen. If they can get some of the religious orders like the nuns and monks on board for reform, it will add momentum. The Pope will have to bend.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
33. Not just in Spain. It went on in California, too.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:53 PM
Feb 2013

Dan Rather did a show on it for his cable tv program. It wasn't to the same degree as in Spain, but they basically robbed young women of their babies.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
9. BUT what does this have to do with drones
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:48 PM
Feb 2013

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Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
12. Or maybe it has nothing to do with women
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:09 PM
Feb 2013

And everything to do with mocking today's obsession du jour on DU.

I also posted the same thing on a lounge thread relating to french fries.

Does that imply a lack of respect for french fries as well, or are you maybe just wound a little too tight today?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. There is a time and place.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:17 PM
Feb 2013

French fries are fine for mocking. This is a more serious subject and you should put the snark away for a better snark candidate that doesn't offend half the population.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
29. No. Being mockingly dismissive of a massive outrage against women is beyond disrespectful.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:24 PM
Feb 2013

It is braggart cowardice. Something no one should be proud of.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
17. Nuns used to be very sadistic.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:29 PM
Feb 2013

As someone who went to Catholic school, I can say that from experience.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
18. Just another example of why I despise the Catholic Church
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:31 PM
Feb 2013

IMHO if the Vatican ceased to exist, the world would be a better place.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
20. One of the reasons my grandmother fled Ireland was because of the church.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:32 PM
Feb 2013

Poverty was the main reason but she carried a lifelong grudge against Mother Church and the local priest.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
22. The Roman Catholic Church is a truly evil organization. EVIL.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:43 PM
Feb 2013

Everywhere you look, they're hip deep in this shit.

When it's not kiddie-fiddling priests, or depriving women of civil rights, or promoting homophobia, it's fucking SLAVERY.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
23. Speaking as a Huguenot,
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:45 PM
Feb 2013

I expect abuse, corruption, illegality and human-rights violations from the Church. Sorry for the women who were abused by the RCC and their partners in crime.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
25. The Magdalene Sisters film--
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:58 PM
Feb 2013


I saw it 10 years ago. It's not shocking this was still going on into 1996. I'm Irish Catholic (now atheist, but family origins are IC) and the hold the leadership still has on some of my older relatives is sad.

John1956PA

(2,655 posts)
26. My relationship with religion has followed the same arc which you have experienced.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 06:47 PM
Feb 2013

As an atheist, it is not possible for me to communicate with my older hard-line Catholic relatives.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
28. Another wonderful group of religious people!
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:22 PM
Feb 2013

Ahhhhhhh.. how much religion adds to the betterment of our societies.

Anti birth control, pedophile protecting, slave whipping Catholics.

Just another example of the beauty of religion.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
32. The Irish Catholic church is taking a big nose dive in attendence, influence, and in power
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:26 PM
Feb 2013
As recently as the 1970s, almost 90 percent of Irish Catholics went to Mass at least once a week. Today, the number is closer to 25 percent. And in some parts of Dublin, just two or three percent of self-described Catholics regularly go to church.


a great story on the subject.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/episodes/july-15-2011/decline-of-the-irish-catholic-church/9146/
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