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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCatholic Church enslaved 30,000 Irish women as forced unpaid labor in Magdalene Laundries until 1996
Revealing video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21326221
What a horrific story. The Irish Prime Minister gave a partial apology today for the governments role in a 74-year scandal in which, a new official government report says, over 10,000 women were forced to work without pay at commercial laundries called Magdalene Laundries, operated by the Catholic Church for crimes as small as not paying a train ticket.
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The last Magdalene laundry closed in 1996.
The women were locked in and not permitted to leave. And if they tried to get away, the cops would catch them and bring them back. They were quite literally Catholic slave labor working for the government and even Guinness, which would pay the laundries for the womens slave labor.
Half of the girls enslaved in these Catholic Church prisons were under the age of 23. The youngest entrant was 9 years old.
more:
http://americablog.com/2013/02/magdalen-laundries-catholic-ireland-irish-apology.html
aquart
(69,014 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Pretending nuns had power in the Catholic Church. Ride flying pigs, do they?
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)I heard about the laundries from the Irish women we socialized with as far back as 1970. I was dumbfounded that they were still operating until then. I thought when I was being told about this that it was an abuse from the past.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Amazing.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If you watch the documentary on this, you will understand why abortion has to remain legal.
This is yet another horrible crime of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church does many good things. They have a wonderful charitable arm. But the Magdalene Laundries are one of their atrocities.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)fact is the Vatican did nothing about it either. I'm sure they must have known.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)They know about all the corruption going on in their ranks and quite frankly I believe they encourage it.
The Pedophile priest here in new England? Oh yes, they take that so seriously that Cardinal Law, a person directly responsible for covering up and allowing these crimes to continue, now sits in a place of high honor in Rome as one of 4 Archbishops. People I love, people ion my family will forever bear the scars of what he has done, yet he sits like a king in their little gold-filled city. Disgusting.
Since it's very beginning the Vatican has been ripe with corruption, lies, scandal, murder and war. When not directly involved they are busy looking the other way.
I come from a family of Catholics, whom I love. They are good people, but they misguided people, continuing to financially support a very corrupt system.
I would like to see at the very least, American Catholics rise up against the Vatican and break free from what I would classify as an organized crime syndicate going back hundreds and hundreds of years.
What the hell has the catholic church been up to!
The catholic church was just caught stealing hundreds of thousands of babies in Spain over 50 years. They would tell the parents the baby died and then give it to 'more deserving' people.
Isn't this an international crime or something?
All we get is a partial apology
Cleita
(75,480 posts)still the Vatican did nothing. They are guilty in that respect.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)and starve it financially, these things might stop.
What will it take for the rank and file Catholics to say enough?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Mass and other Catholic practices like Baptism, First Communion, Confirmation and other rituals are too ingrained to make many want to leave the Church. The Church is a monarchy and not a democracy and the clergy are pretty much ingrained in working in this medieval way. The Church can issue sanctions like excommunication and tell you you are going to Hell. That scares some true believers. So the Church will never die, but it can change and it's up to the lay parishioners to start pressuring the clergy and their bishops until the Vatican can't ignore it or hide it anymore. You are seeing this happening with the priest pedophile scandals. There will be change, I'm sure of it. It's going to take a movement of practicing Catholics to make it happen. If they can get some of the religious orders like the nuns and monks on board for reform, it will add momentum. The Pope will have to bend.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Dan Rather did a show on it for his cable tv program. It wasn't to the same degree as in Spain, but they basically robbed young women of their babies.
Floyd_Gondolli
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Cleita
(75,480 posts)It shows your lack of respect for what's important to women.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)And everything to do with mocking today's obsession du jour on DU.
I also posted the same thing on a lounge thread relating to french fries.
Does that imply a lack of respect for french fries as well, or are you maybe just wound a little too tight today?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)French fries are fine for mocking. This is a more serious subject and you should put the snark away for a better snark candidate that doesn't offend half the population.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)It is braggart cowardice. Something no one should be proud of.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)As someone who went to Catholic school, I can say that from experience.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)IMHO if the Vatican ceased to exist, the world would be a better place.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Poverty was the main reason but she carried a lifelong grudge against Mother Church and the local priest.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Everywhere you look, they're hip deep in this shit.
When it's not kiddie-fiddling priests, or depriving women of civil rights, or promoting homophobia, it's fucking SLAVERY.
riqster
(13,986 posts)I expect abuse, corruption, illegality and human-rights violations from the Church. Sorry for the women who were abused by the RCC and their partners in crime.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I saw it 10 years ago. It's not shocking this was still going on into 1996. I'm Irish Catholic (now atheist, but family origins are IC) and the hold the leadership still has on some of my older relatives is sad.
John1956PA
(2,655 posts)As an atheist, it is not possible for me to communicate with my older hard-line Catholic relatives.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Ahhhhhhh.. how much religion adds to the betterment of our societies.
Anti birth control, pedophile protecting, slave whipping Catholics.
Just another example of the beauty of religion.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)marmar
(77,081 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)As recently as the 1970s, almost 90 percent of Irish Catholics went to Mass at least once a week. Today, the number is closer to 25 percent. And in some parts of Dublin, just two or three percent of self-described Catholics regularly go to church.
a great story on the subject.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/episodes/july-15-2011/decline-of-the-irish-catholic-church/9146/