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Jim Carrey?@JimCarrey
Any1 who would run out to buy an assault rifle after the Newtown massacre has very little left in their body or soul worth protecting. ;^\
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Losers lined up one week after Sandy Hook hoping to snag an "assault" weapon to fend off fellow citizens:
AAO
(3,300 posts)and others to make them this fearful, but frankly these people have taken a "break" with reality. The reality now lives in their own imagination, and they continue to seek out people and things that will reinforce their worst fears.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Prices likely to go up after legislation. Sell for a profit.
AAO
(3,300 posts)I was referring to the fox-washed masses that need fox to help them think outside a paper bag.
When you are fox-washed, you are politically and morally a zombie.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I didn't see a caption saying they were fox viewers. Perhaps they are, perhaps they're not. Most likely, some are and some aren't. This may be news to you, but many Democrats, liberals, progressives own guns. Ownership is not restricted to fox viewers only. It appears to me they are simply buying a weapon before new sales are banned, or before the prices go up. Chaulk increased gun sales up to being an unintended consequence of knee-jerk feelgood legislation.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)its a not-very-interesting blend of cluelessness and condescension.
you can tell by looking at them they ain't right.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)AWGs.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Maineman
(854 posts)There are reportedly 300,000,000 guns in the hands of Americans. (Outrageous!) So, limiting the sale of guns might be useful 200 years from now.
Background checks for all sales, of course, would be a good, but modest improvement.
However, background checks combined with owner responsibility should actually be quite effective. The story we hear is that most gun owners are responsible. Ok, let them BE responsible. The registered owner of a gun should be at least partially responsible for how the gun is used. What if the gun gets stolen? Not an excuse. Don't let it be stolen. Keep it safe, use security cameras, alarms, etc. If you sell a gun, do it properly obtaining a background check. Get it registered with the new owner. Get a bill of sale identifying the new owner. Keep the bill of sale in a safe place.
Anyone who buys a killing machine should be held responsible for how that devide is used and where it goes next. Guns are not toys. Gun ownership is serious business. Gun owners MUST be held responsible.
dangerdoll
(32 posts)And base the insurance premium on the weapon's type and potential for destruction. I have to have insurance on my car because it can cause damage to people and property. I see no difference.
THEN watch how careful gun owners become.
hack89
(39,171 posts)because when you cut through the hyperbolic BS, there are very few gun accidents relative to the shear number of gun owners. The risk spread over the population of gun owners would make insurance dirt cheap.
And of course you realize that liability insurances only covers accidents - it is of no benefit to victims of crime. As an analogy, if I was to use my car to deliberately run you over, my insurance would not pay you.
lastlib
(23,243 posts)whatever the insured is legally responsible for. If the insured is legally responsible for ANY death or injury resulting from the use of a covered firearm, watch how fast that insurance company is going to require the owner to a) secure the weapon from loss/theft/misuse, and b) be thoroughly trained in safety. And watch how high premiums will go for the Bushmasters, semi-automatics, etc. Insurance companies will figure out real quickly how to protect themselves from paying out big settlements.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I got discounts on my car insurance by sending my kids to additional drivers training.
However, you will never pass a law that says that I will be responsible for the action of a criminal if he steals my guns. That defies several centuries of legal tradition and precedent. If I make a reasonable effort to secure my guns and if I were to report them stolen, I would have no more liability.
No insurance company will ever put themselves in a position of having to pay out for a Sandy Hook - they will most likely refuse to enter the market.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)in place for that.
Response to Maineman (Reply #3)
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hack89
(39,171 posts)secondly, your standard for guns being stolen is unreasonable - it would never pass court muster. Once a gun owner reports their gun as stolen they have no liability. Just like if someone stole my car and then killed someone in an accident - I would have no liability.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)When they run out they can use the guns as a wall ornament.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Anyone who buys an assault rifle after Newton has undergone an EXTENSIVE background check and licensing, and has $20,000 or so burning a hole in their pocket. An assault rifle is a fully automatic military weapon, ownership thereof is extremely tightly regulated by the government in the same way as machine guns.
What Jim Carrey, in his ignorance, probably meant was an assault weapon. This term has no concise definition. In the AWB an assault weapon was combinations of several cosmetic features. Connetticut has a state ban on assault weapons. The gun used at Newton was legal to own, therefore it didn't have any features prohibited under Connetticut's assault weapon law.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)theKed
(1,235 posts)tired old horse? I thought we put those arguments to bed.
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Reference Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster_M4_Type_Carbine
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I am so frustrated with our slowly-evolving/quickly devolving species. We have to go through so much hardship before we EVEN consider changing our ways. Good thing we're on a planet that is tucked away in an obscure location of the Milky Way Galaxy!
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Gun Nutters Swarm Gun Shows (Let me know when you've had enough of this insanity--the gun nutters that is):
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http://www2.highlandstoday.com/mgmedia/image/0/0/168721/LAINSIDO1-gun-show-draws-a-crowd/
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Future Adam Lanzas at a Gun Nut Show Near You:
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"...We have to save each other because all victims are equal and none is more equal than others. It's everyone's duty to start the avalanche."
--Bartholomew "Barley" Scott Blair, "The Russia House"
CanSocDem
(3,286 posts)...and the sentiment that you put into this post. Good compilation.
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kyeshinka
(44 posts)Just looking at those pictures reaffirmed one thing: there's a reason stereotypes exist.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)in the aftermath of a tragedy.
What better way to make sure its possible then getting yours while you can?
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)So, a person who does must agree with the killings?
Moron.
they simply care more about their guns than they do about America