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Jim Carrey Tweet on buying an assault rifle (Original Post) Playinghardball Feb 2013 OP
Tend to agree. Here are photos of folks lined up in Atlanta just one week after Newtown. Hoyt Feb 2013 #1
I try to understand how their minds have been twisted by Fox, Limbaugh, AAO Feb 2013 #2
Or perhaps they're just looking to make a buck. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #10
We're probably talking sideways AAO Feb 2013 #13
How do you know they're "fox washed"? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #16
why do you post the same thing over and over? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #23
Whatever you say, Dr Frist. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #24
America's problem in two photos. HughBeaumont Feb 2013 #11
And you know for a fact every person in that line is buying an assult rifle? Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #28
That is what the article is about. I don't think they were there for a worthy cause. Hoyt Feb 2013 #30
A strategy to deal with the gun problem Maineman Feb 2013 #3
make them insure each weapon... dangerdoll Feb 2013 #4
My guns are insured - it costs a pittance hack89 Feb 2013 #7
Liability insurance doesn't just "cover accidents"--it covers "Liability", ie... lastlib Feb 2013 #17
Storage and training discounts are the norm hack89 Feb 2013 #19
Need to determine the registered owner 1st. Not many procedures jmg257 Feb 2013 #5
Message auto-removed rwt1960 Feb 2013 #6
Since very few guns are actually registered, I see the first problem. hack89 Feb 2013 #9
Regulate ammo.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #18
Which the supreme court would throw out. Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #29
Oh sure, it's lead and explosive material often crossing state lines. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #31
<rolleyes> HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #8
<puke lunch> farminator3000 Feb 2013 #22
Still dragging out that theKed Feb 2013 #27
Gun Nuts Are "Chasing the High" of Fear triplepoint Feb 2013 #12
Appreciate the effort... CanSocDem Feb 2013 #21
Them's Real 'Mericuns! kyeshinka Feb 2013 #14
It is understood that people will want to turn to a loved one jmg257 Feb 2013 #15
Ouch. Judgmental. Zax2me Feb 2013 #20
no Skittles Feb 2013 #26
THANK YOU MR. CARREY Skittles Feb 2013 #25
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Tend to agree. Here are photos of folks lined up in Atlanta just one week after Newtown.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:40 PM
Feb 2013

Losers lined up one week after Sandy Hook hoping to snag an "assault" weapon to fend off fellow citizens:








 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
2. I try to understand how their minds have been twisted by Fox, Limbaugh,
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:40 PM
Feb 2013

and others to make them this fearful, but frankly these people have taken a "break" with reality. The reality now lives in their own imagination, and they continue to seek out people and things that will reinforce their worst fears.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
10. Or perhaps they're just looking to make a buck.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:05 PM
Feb 2013

Prices likely to go up after legislation. Sell for a profit.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
13. We're probably talking sideways
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:14 PM
Feb 2013

I was referring to the fox-washed masses that need fox to help them think outside a paper bag.

When you are fox-washed, you are politically and morally a zombie.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. How do you know they're "fox washed"?
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:26 PM
Feb 2013

I didn't see a caption saying they were fox viewers. Perhaps they are, perhaps they're not. Most likely, some are and some aren't. This may be news to you, but many Democrats, liberals, progressives own guns. Ownership is not restricted to fox viewers only. It appears to me they are simply buying a weapon before new sales are banned, or before the prices go up. Chaulk increased gun sales up to being an unintended consequence of knee-jerk feelgood legislation.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
23. why do you post the same thing over and over?
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:24 PM
Feb 2013

its a not-very-interesting blend of cluelessness and condescension.

you can tell by looking at them they ain't right.

Maineman

(854 posts)
3. A strategy to deal with the gun problem
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:43 PM
Feb 2013

There are reportedly 300,000,000 guns in the hands of Americans. (Outrageous!) So, limiting the sale of guns might be useful 200 years from now.

Background checks for all sales, of course, would be a good, but modest improvement.

However, background checks combined with owner responsibility should actually be quite effective. The story we hear is that most gun owners are responsible. Ok, let them BE responsible. The registered owner of a gun should be at least partially responsible for how the gun is used. What if the gun gets stolen? Not an excuse. Don't let it be stolen. Keep it safe, use security cameras, alarms, etc. If you sell a gun, do it properly obtaining a background check. Get it registered with the new owner. Get a bill of sale identifying the new owner. Keep the bill of sale in a safe place.

Anyone who buys a killing machine should be held responsible for how that devide is used and where it goes next. Guns are not toys. Gun ownership is serious business. Gun owners MUST be held responsible.

dangerdoll

(32 posts)
4. make them insure each weapon...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:53 PM
Feb 2013

And base the insurance premium on the weapon's type and potential for destruction. I have to have insurance on my car because it can cause damage to people and property. I see no difference.

THEN watch how careful gun owners become.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. My guns are insured - it costs a pittance
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:00 PM
Feb 2013

because when you cut through the hyperbolic BS, there are very few gun accidents relative to the shear number of gun owners. The risk spread over the population of gun owners would make insurance dirt cheap.

And of course you realize that liability insurances only covers accidents - it is of no benefit to victims of crime. As an analogy, if I was to use my car to deliberately run you over, my insurance would not pay you.

lastlib

(23,243 posts)
17. Liability insurance doesn't just "cover accidents"--it covers "Liability", ie...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:38 PM
Feb 2013

whatever the insured is legally responsible for. If the insured is legally responsible for ANY death or injury resulting from the use of a covered firearm, watch how fast that insurance company is going to require the owner to a) secure the weapon from loss/theft/misuse, and b) be thoroughly trained in safety. And watch how high premiums will go for the Bushmasters, semi-automatics, etc. Insurance companies will figure out real quickly how to protect themselves from paying out big settlements.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
19. Storage and training discounts are the norm
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:55 PM
Feb 2013

I got discounts on my car insurance by sending my kids to additional drivers training.

However, you will never pass a law that says that I will be responsible for the action of a criminal if he steals my guns. That defies several centuries of legal tradition and precedent. If I make a reasonable effort to secure my guns and if I were to report them stolen, I would have no more liability.

No insurance company will ever put themselves in a position of having to pay out for a Sandy Hook - they will most likely refuse to enter the market.

Response to Maineman (Reply #3)

hack89

(39,171 posts)
9. Since very few guns are actually registered, I see the first problem.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:04 PM
Feb 2013

secondly, your standard for guns being stolen is unreasonable - it would never pass court muster. Once a gun owner reports their gun as stolen they have no liability. Just like if someone stole my car and then killed someone in an accident - I would have no liability.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. <rolleyes>
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:00 PM
Feb 2013

Anyone who buys an assault rifle after Newton has undergone an EXTENSIVE background check and licensing, and has $20,000 or so burning a hole in their pocket. An assault rifle is a fully automatic military weapon, ownership thereof is extremely tightly regulated by the government in the same way as machine guns.

What Jim Carrey, in his ignorance, probably meant was an assault weapon. This term has no concise definition. In the AWB an assault weapon was combinations of several cosmetic features. Connetticut has a state ban on assault weapons. The gun used at Newton was legal to own, therefore it didn't have any features prohibited under Connetticut's assault weapon law.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
12. Gun Nuts Are "Chasing the High" of Fear
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:11 PM
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I am so frustrated with our slowly-evolving/quickly devolving species. We have to go through so much hardship before we EVEN consider changing our ways. Good thing we're on a planet that is tucked away in an obscure location of the Milky Way Galaxy!
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Gun Nutters Swarm Gun Shows (Let me know when you've had enough of this insanity--the gun nutters that is):
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"...We have to save each other because all victims are equal and none is more equal than others. It's everyone's duty to start the avalanche."

--Bartholomew "Barley" Scott Blair, "The Russia House"
 

kyeshinka

(44 posts)
14. Them's Real 'Mericuns!
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:21 PM
Feb 2013

Just looking at those pictures reaffirmed one thing: there's a reason stereotypes exist.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
15. It is understood that people will want to turn to a loved one
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:26 PM
Feb 2013

in the aftermath of a tragedy.

What better way to make sure its possible then getting yours while you can?

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