Was Lincoln wrong not to place every confederate soldier under arrest,

[arely staircase]

instead of just killing them by the tens of thousands without a trial?

[Agschmid]

1. So this is you relating The Civil War to drones?

Is this really something that can be considered equivalent?

[arely staircase]

10. i'm talking about the executive branch of the federal government killing americans without a trial

if that is evocative to you of drones, you would not be alone.

“As I and ten other senators told the President yesterday, if individual Americans choose to take up arms against the United States, there will clearly be some circumstances in which the President has the authority to use lethal force against those Americans, just as President Lincoln had the authority to use force against the Confederate Army during the Civil War..."Sen. Ron Wyden

[Agschmid]

15. Still don't understand your OP, or the post above. n/t

[enlightenment]

18. Sen. Wyden was showing his lack of understanding.

The Southern states succeeded from the Union. They created their own country - "The Confederate States of America" - with a government, a president, and currency.

Lincoln did not authorize force against citizens of the United States of America. He went to war with another nation.

[arely staircase]

22. Lincoln and the US government did not recognize them as anything but US citizens

As far as the US government was concerned there was no such thing as the CSA only states in rebellion whose US citizens were fair game for killing if they raised arms against the United States.

[Posteritatis]

2. I lost three IQ points just reading that OP. (nt)

[Agschmid]

3. Me too. n/t

[Bucky]

19. Don't worry. I found 'em in the trash and I'm sending in the Duke boys to return them points to ya

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[sibelian]

4. Had he rounded them up and put them in gas chambers

Would that really have been any worse?

[FSogol]

5. Woot! For the Drone-ish win!

[hrmjustin]

9. I guess you were right about these posts today.

[nolabear]

6. OFFS

[libtodeath]

7. What the?

[HockeyMom]

8. He wanted to heal the nation and bring it back together.

and arresting and killing all the confederate soldiers would have only exasperated the situation. Whether it worked, after all this time, is subject to debate.

[arely staircase]

12. no i mean instead of killing them on the battlefield

not afterwards. all of the men in the confederate army? why not arest them and give them their day in courst instead of slaughtering them in fields?

[Boomerproud]

11. The soldiers killing them by the tens of thousands

were also killed by the tens of thousands. Please respond to any post regarding what your OP is about.

[arely staircase]

14. now we may be getting somewhere

so it was ok for the government to kill americans without a trial in this case because why?

[cthulu2016]

13. The Union and Confederacy should have joined forces to fight this Giant Straw Man

[DavidDvorkin]

16. My God, you're right!

He should have declared them all under arrest. Then he would have had to send the Union army into the field to disarm and arrest them all.

And then ...

[arely staircase]

17. precicely

just as Pres. Obama should have with the likes of Mr. al-Awlaki when he took up arms against the United States.

Standing in a Virginia field with a rifle or putting guys with c-4 in their undies on planes, both, when part of an organized, declared and engaged war on the United States, qualify you for a government killing. Fair or not. Them's the rules.

[Marr]

20. Probably the stupidest analogy yet. Congratulations.

You've had some stiff competition today in the race to excuse the inexcusable.

I suggest you just wait for the official talking points to arrive and stop trying to freestyle.

[Bucky]

21. While Harry Truman was using his kung fu to disarm those Puerto Rican assassins in 1950...

he showed that all violent conflicts can be peacefully resolved. If Obama could only be more like Truman, we'd have no more terrorist problems and we start using all those drones for just babysitting orphans.


























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