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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPirate Bay to sue antipiracy site for pirating its design
The folks behind Pirate Bay are upset over a new Web site from antipiracy group CIAPC that looks just like their own site.
To kick off its latest antipiracy campaign, the Finland-based CIAPC (Copyright Information and Anti-Piracy Center) set up a new Web site urging people to find more legal means to download music, TV shows, and other digital content. To hammer home its point, the CIAPC site intentionally borrowed the exact design and style of the Pirate Bay site.
The group even duplicated the CSS stylesheet used by the Pirate Bay, ensuring that its site is a virtual duplicate, according to torrent news site TorrentFreak. The only difference is that the CIAPC's site shows an image of a sinking ship in contrast to the floating pirate ship that marks the Pirate Bay site.
But the move seems to have landed the CIAPC in hot water.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57569410-38/pirate-bay-to-sue-antipiracy-site-for-pirating-its-design/
Hard Assets
(274 posts)when I'm looking for a hard-to-find torrent...
And I hope TPB prevails and shuts down the anti-piracy site, for good.
riqster
(13,986 posts)Fuck The Pirate Bay with Captain Hook's hook. We bust ass to make art, and sites like theirs help people steal it.
Speaking as an artist and content CREATOR: information wants to be free. Peer to peer is awesome good for most. Greed is the enemy.
riqster
(13,986 posts)I don't think so. People whose art is culinary aren't called "greedy" when they post a price on a menu in their restaurant.
But spend years learning the art of music, then write a song, pay to record,master and distribute it, and suddenly the artist is "greedy"? I call bullshit on that one.
The only difference between the two artistic media is: digital audio and data networks enable easy, risk-free theft of musical art. It's a lot harder to physically walk into a restaurant and make off with a meal.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)One of the first DVD's I bought was Plan 9 from Outer Space,some years back.
Like other dvd's either got scratched, lost in moves, etc. But I did pay for it.
Today we have things 'in the cloud' that help with such situations when you purchase.
But how do you feel about people using such sites to DL things they have, in the past, already paid for on a medium?
I am not arguing legal here, just a general sense of you paid to have a book, movie, an 8 track, etc and over the years such has stopped being useable and the artist already made money off of the sale.
Some I know have downloaded the Hobbit movie. Went to see it. Plan on buying the DVD extended when it eventually comes out.
Certainly get when it comes to people blatantly ripping off things (written a lot of code in my time buy mainly internal to corporations who own it) and can understand the artist/creator side of things.
riqster
(13,986 posts)I buy lots of used books and other media: perfectly legal, and the artist already, as you say, got paid. Similarly, I can get material from a library, and no harm has been done to the artist, since the library purchased the book (or CD, DVD, etc.).
It's the "I deserve everything for free" types, the out-and-out thieves that hack me off.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)ChromeFoundry
(3,270 posts)I do consider some forms of copy and transfer as stealing, but I'd like to hear your take on these situations.
Do you think DVRs, DVD burners, Digital Cameras, Digital Audio Recorders and Cassette Tape Recorders are helping people steal other people's work?
If you record a TV program and FF through the commercials, are you not ripping off the producer and network?
If you make a backup of your $1800 AutoCad installation CD, is that stealing?
Rip your thousands of Music CDs from the 80's to mp3 to play on your iPod in the car for long family trips, is that stealing?
How about if someone takes a picture of your painting and shares it with their friends. Are you losing revenue because nobody bought the original work?
Was recording song off the radio in the 70's and 80's to cassette tape illegal and considered theft in your eyes?
If you create an great song and give it away on the internet. If people like it, I believe that they will pay for it out of support for the artist. If they don't, do you really want to continue to create music that only you appreciate? If so, maybe don't sell it and try to become rich off of your hobby.
I think there are a lot of gray areas. Some on the side of the seller being greedy, and a lot on the consumer being a cheap ass. I don't believe I have a solution to this... but I think if I owned a store that was robbed every day, I'd certainly would not open another store across the street.
Hard Assets
(274 posts)Please understand this:
I do *buy* content when they are good. Most of the stuff I download are mostly shareware or time trial games. I end up having to buy them when I want more or unlimited time.
GameFish is one example.
TPB continues to exist because of Swedish laws and the continued fighting over what is right and what is not. Even the founder is in jail fighting the convinction.
I think information ought to be free.
Initech
(100,081 posts)msongs
(67,420 posts)Hard Assets
(274 posts)TPB merely provides information on where to find a seeder for certain files.
That's why it exists, protected with that information under Swedish law.
EastKYLiberal
(429 posts)And will continue to do so forever and ever, amen.
There are no starving artists getting ripped off on TPB...
Only quality content is there for download.