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Moor delay: Carnival’s cruise from hell won’t dock till dark FoxNews.com (Original Post) jannyk Feb 2013 OP
Maybe a performance of Othello? treestar Feb 2013 #1
Titus Andronicus. Aaron the Moor is keeping them from docking. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #6
It's a play on "mooring" as in ship moorings. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #2
My thought as well. Just a somewhat clever play on words. cbayer Feb 2013 #26
In their defense... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #3
Maybe this is a dumb question bluestateguy Feb 2013 #4
Nope. No refunds for those on board. They'll get a voucher for another cruise. Mika Feb 2013 #5
Actually, the company is doing a one-off and refund + voucher Taverner Feb 2013 #7
My cousin works for a law firm hired by Carnival. Mika Feb 2013 #13
They probably wouldn't have given refunds if this wasn't all over the news Taverner Feb 2013 #14
Yep... jberryhill Feb 2013 #20
Lovely bluestateguy Feb 2013 #8
And personal hose-downs from the Carnival board of directors. Safetykitten Feb 2013 #31
they will get refunds CreekDog Feb 2013 #9
I read they will get a refund plus free hotel rooms in Mobile dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #10
Now they say mainstreetonce Feb 2013 #11
Actually GP6971 Feb 2013 #16
Why isn't some entrepreneural person malaise Feb 2013 #19
No doubt they've already done a cost/benefit analysis Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #12
Yep Mika Feb 2013 #15
whatever their cost benefit analysis is, the Alaska cruise that I was thinking about with my friends CreekDog Feb 2013 #24
4th time this has happened to their ships, 3rd time since 2010 CreekDog Feb 2013 #28
$500, free flight back home, and a free cruise voucher is what I am hearing. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #18
Plus reimbursement for the cruise they are on now. Grammy23 Feb 2013 #21
why is that good? CreekDog Feb 2013 #22
They are missing approx 5 days of work. Guy on radio said his wife's boss gave her a hard time Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #25
the 1st cruise was a disaster, so you can't say there are getting 2 cruises. they are getting 1 Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #27
I was talking about this with my dad. His summary: ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #30
guy interviewed on radio said the smell was so bad, he had to run through hallways to prevent Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #33
It's funny, because some are complaining and some are saying it hasn't really been that bad. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #34
In keeping with "The Spitit" of their adventure, the passengers will enjoy going home.... BlueJazz Feb 2013 #17
I wonder if this is planned so that cameras won't record what the passengers look like Cleita Feb 2013 #23
That's what my first thought was too. n/t JimDandy Feb 2013 #32
It's a pun. They are making light of the situation. Journalism FAIL. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #29

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
3. In their defense...
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 03:53 PM
Feb 2013

perhaps the ship ran into a peaty field filled with grasses and sedges and is rather boggy...?

At this point, nothing would be surprising.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
7. Actually, the company is doing a one-off and refund + voucher
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:01 PM
Feb 2013

Too bad it takes something this big and visible to get that

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
13. My cousin works for a law firm hired by Carnival.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:06 PM
Feb 2013

They give refunds on a per/customer basis, and usually lawyers working it out.
I'll never set foot on a Carnival ship ever, after hearing the horror stories and the fuck-overs committed by Carnival and the law firm. If its less than a rape-a-day, then its a good day for Carnival, if its more than that the law firm celebrates - lots of extra billable hours.


 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
14. They probably wouldn't have given refunds if this wasn't all over the news
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:07 PM
Feb 2013

Reminds me of the "Fight Club" equation

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Yep...
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:41 PM
Feb 2013

In response to a suggestion on another thread that passengers had hit the lawsuit lottery, I was accused of being mean-spirited for pointing out that Carnival is entirely structured around dodging liability for just about anything.

As you are aware, the crew aboard a Carnival cruise ship can - literally - rape you, and you have very little recourse, and a long battle ahead if you try.

The rapist is not a US employee, and is subject to a non-US employment agreement. When a crew member rapes a passenger, the employee is dropped off at the next port and their employment with Carnival goes down the memory hole.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. Lovely
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:02 PM
Feb 2013

I remember several years ago an airline (that no longer exists today) gave me the run around and took 19 hours to get me from point A to point B (domestic flight). I was never put up in a hotel or given money for food. And no, the weather had nothing to do with this.

I was offered a voucher for another flight in the future as compensation. Of course, the voucher had all kinds of loopholes in the fine print about blackout dates other incomprehensible preconditions, all of which made the voucher essentially worthless.

When I pointed this out to the sniveling little customer service agent he just shrugged.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. I read they will get a refund plus free hotel rooms in Mobile
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:03 PM
Feb 2013

and free bus trip to New Orleans and Houston.
Read that yesterday.

Plus they lose all the bookings for the ..I think I read four...future bookings they had to cancel.

Poor Carnival..they might want to take a look at their repair budget.
This is not the first of their ships to lose an engine and make the trip hell for their passengers.
Wasn't it 2 years ago this happened?

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
12. No doubt they've already done a cost/benefit analysis
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:06 PM
Feb 2013

and found their current system to be more lucrative.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
24. whatever their cost benefit analysis is, the Alaska cruise that I was thinking about with my friends
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:21 PM
Feb 2013

...is off.

certainly not on Carnival, but these ships seem to have a weak link.

if you have a small engine fire and then get stranded, but almost immediately lose basic sanitation on the ship --count me out.

that is BS.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
21. Plus reimbursement for the cruise they are on now.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:15 PM
Feb 2013

Basically they will get 2 cruises (refund on this one, plus voucher for future cruise) $500, transportation to New Orleans or Back to Texas and hotel if they stay overnight in Mobile or New Orleans.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
22. why is that good?
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:19 PM
Feb 2013

They were supposed to have been back 4 days ago. People have probably missed at least a couple days of work because of this.

$500 doesn't seem so hot to me.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
27. the 1st cruise was a disaster, so you can't say there are getting 2 cruises. they are getting 1
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:22 PM
Feb 2013

free cruise

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
30. I was talking about this with my dad. His summary:
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:50 PM
Feb 2013

They got the luxurious part of the cruise (the incident happened the day before they were to return to port) and then they got camping on the open sea...

...my dad can deal with just about anything.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
33. guy interviewed on radio said the smell was so bad, he had to run through hallways to prevent
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:37 PM
Feb 2013

vomiting. that wipes out any fun had in the previous days... IMHO.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
34. It's funny, because some are complaining and some are saying it hasn't really been that bad.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:45 PM
Feb 2013

I guess it depends on stamina. I don't think it wipes it out entirely. I know I personally would not be able to eat if the stench was super horrible--and yet there was a pretty long food line.



I'm just glad everyone is safe.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
17. In keeping with "The Spitit" of their adventure, the passengers will enjoy going home....
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:14 PM
Feb 2013

....in this >>

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
23. I wonder if this is planned so that cameras won't record what the passengers look like
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:21 PM
Feb 2013

in full sunlight.

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