Harry F-ing Reid

[WilliamPitt]

Way to go on filibuster reform.

[riverbendviewgal]

1. Ok

TIme for Harry to retire...like right now.

[The Magistrate]

2. Yep....

[politicasista]

3. He needs to haveaseat.gov n/t

[BlueStreak]

4. 8 Senators undercut him on the filibuster reform

Those are the ones to go after.

Maybe it is fair to say that Reid should have played hardball with those turncoats, but it may not have made a difference.

[rhett o rick]

5. Harry said he had the votes. Was he lying? nm

[BlueStreak]

8. I don't think Reid said that

Tom Udall said that.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/274791-leading-proponent-of-filibuster-reform-claims-51-votes-for-nuclear-option

But then apparently he got undercut. As I understand it, in a private meeting, Udall identified the Dem Senators who undercut this initiative, pleading with people to make calls to these turncoats to try to get them back in line. That was unsuccessful of course and now that list of name seems to have disappeared. Bernie Sanders specifically mentioned this on Thom Hartmann's program, but Sanders was not at the meeting and did not have first hand knowledge s the exact list of names.
I am 99% sure one of them was Feinstein. And the list probably also included the others who were negotiating with McCain on an alternative.

[rhett o rick]

11. Ok I see. I must have jumped to conclusions. This whole thing smells fishy. nm

[kentuck]

6. That's what a leader does.

He persuades.

[BlueStreak]

10. I agree. Can anybody imagine LBJ not being able to get 50 out of 55 on board?

But he was willing to play hardball. Apparently Reid is not.

[bluestate10]

20. Who were the 8? Their names need to get out ASAP. nt

[BlueStreak]

22. The Senate is a CYA institution

Even across parties, they cover each others asses.

That's why they have absurdities like secret holds where a single Senator can block any appointment and never be held accountable. As I understand it, there is effectively a gentleman's agreement to never name those names publicly.

[Autumn]

7. Can you imagine how bad it would have been had Reid not reformed the filibusterer?

Be grateful for the reform he did.

[BlueStreak]

9. Basically the filibuster vote happened one day earlier than it would have

without the "reform"

[rhett o rick]

12. Harry claimed he got the reform he was after. Maybe he didnt want reform after all. Hmmm. nm

[Autumn]

14. It sure worked out great, these people make me nervous any time they mention the word reform.

Especially when they say it was a good deal. It seems to be code for keep it the same. These politicians on our side seem to like it the way it is.

[Blue Idaho]

13. Harry F-ing Reid's Senate looks more like a circle jerk than effective government

Talk about entrenched power protecting its own selfish interests.

What to go Harry, way to go.

[Gregorian]

15. Caving on the filibuster reform has had a huge effect on me. I want to just drop out.

When they failed to do this I felt like it was the last straw. It's as if our government no longer represents us. It's not just drone strikes, and fucking up our postal service, but they simply refuse to do anything that is considered "rocking the boat". The fucking boat needs rocking!

They can all go fuck themselves. I know it's counterproductive to drop out, but I've got better things to do than sign tons of petitions with the hopes that maybe someone is listening. Or funding candidates with the dream that this time they'll come out swinging.

America is in trouble. The voice of the people can't be heard over the volume of the lobbyists. And politicians think they're rock stars.

[kentuck]

17. "The fucking boat needs rocking! "

DU used to rock the boat.

If we had the same mentality in 2001 that we see now, Barack Obama would never have been elected President. The entire Party is soft and ineffectual.

[bvar22]

16. After all these years, you still don't grasp the concept of The Big Game.

This isn't Harry Reid's fault.
Harry Reid was CHOSEN by the Senate Democrats for this exact reason.
He DID exactly what he was chosen to do.

Have you ever questioned WHY the Senate Democrats would appoint a conservative wimp from a conservative state to be the Majority leader?


"They are willing to bravely support any progressive bill as long as there's no chance it can pass"

http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/

[Autumn]

18. There are those of us who see it very clearly, not allowed to talk about it.

To talk about it means we don't support the Democratic Party . But it's crystal clear to see how they play this game.

[bluestate10]

19. Reid didn't have the votes of some of the old democratic bulls in the Senate.

We should get rid of those people, most of them are in safe democratic districts, so their seats will be filled by a democrat.

[tokenlib]

21. Not so easy to do....Carl Levin pushed that watered down faux fillibuster reform...

..and Levin has political capital seeping out of his pores, he can be Senator for life if he wants to be...if only he'd been for REAL reform it wouldn't have cost him anything....

It is infuriating!!!!! Sometimes you love the old bulls..they keep seats safely blue...other times you almost hate them...