Paul and Cruz get over it. The president as CiC can order military action on your precious

[RB TexLa]

motherfucking American soil.

[MotherPetrie]

1. Down the rabbit hole time

[Thinkingabout]

2. The two are trying for the award of the craziest ideas. When you hear them talking always doubt

Their information as being insane. I had hope with both educated better thoughts would come out at different times, but I was wrong, educated fools

[TexasProgresive]

4. What about-

Posse Comitatus?

[loli phabay]

5. i guess it depends on who the CIC is and if you voted for him or not.

[jmg257]

8. What about it?

10 USC s332 & 333

Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—
(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or
(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

[Occulus]

12. The President can also ban the sale and manufacture of any and all firearms, at his discretion.

[jmg257]

14. Because he has the power to regulate commerce?

No...that's congress.

So under what authority, and why hasn't he used it?

If it was only that easy.

[Politicalboi]

6. And if it's Jeb Bush

Will we all feel the same then? I can see this for people like Waco, although there were children there, or other nuts who have an armory and are "planning" on using it against us. I say go for it. But just picking one person in a crowd of 20 or more, no way.

[randome]

7. This is bullshit, as usual.

The CIC ALWAYS has the authority to take whatever action is necessary to safeguard the country. All these insane 'what-if' scenarios are...insane. If you want extra-extra-EXTRA safeguards, then Congress needs to do their fucking jobs and pass legislation.

Otherwise, you are just shitting bricks for no good reason.

If you want to suck up to the likes of Paul and Cruz, then at least have the decency to not tell us about it, okay?

[JDPriestly]

10. Article I, section 7 of the Constitution disagrees with you.

The CIC ALWAYS has the authority to take whatever action is necessary to safeguard the country.

Your statement is way overbroad.

[randome]

11. How many times has this scenario been mentioned?

A plane goes off course and is headed for the White House. It refuses to answer radio. What does the President do? He shoots the fucking thing down and is applauded for it.

Cite all the articles you want, no one is going to say he should not have acted.

[RB TexLa]

13. Rand Paul would have us issue the pilot a subpoena

[randome]

15. Exactly. There comes a point where you DO have to trust those in charge.

There is enough existing law defining 'imminent' and 'threat' that we don't need bullshit legislation.

[JDPriestly]

16. The president has the authority to do that because

the plane constitutes either an insurrection or an invasion. The guidelines are pretty clear in my opinion.

The president cannot just order a drone strike against peaceful demonstrators which is what the loonies would have us believe. But if someone is attacking us, whether they are a citizen or not, in the midst of the attack, in the actual attack, the president can set aside habeas corpus and respond without granting the accuseds due process.

Carry a gun. Make the wrong move. You could be in trouble.

[JDPriestly]

9. The president can only suspend habeas corpus in

times of insurrection or invasion.

Article I, section 7 of the US Constitution. It isn't as easy as you might think.